HMS Warrior 1860 by Philg88 - Billing Boats - 1:100 - First British Ironclad with scratch built side heads per prototype

[Philg88]

17 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

 is there to be any type of fastenings done to those brackets?   I'm imagining the dead eyes are attached to them.  

Aye Aye! There is a deadeye pair attached to the top of each one, which then connects to the shrouds. On the real ship the connection was hidden in the middle of the double handrail. I thought about doing that but there is only about 3mm to work in so with a 1mm gap either side its nigh on impossible.

[BANYAN]

Neat jig Phil; looking good.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Philg88]

Chainplates and handrails now all fitted so its onto the deck. I ended up making the rifle proof conning tower out of plasticard, as I defy anyone to bend the 2mm plywood provided to the required shape without it delaminating, splitting or warping. It was then lined with 0.8x3mm stripwood.

 

Conning tower, compasses and main vent dry fitted to the deck

 

Now fabricating the deck stairs and capstan.

 

 

[Philg88]

Progress on the superstructure ...

 

[clearway]

coming along nicely there phil - nice to see vicky in the background there.

 

Keith

[Philg88]

5 minutes ago, clearway said:

coming along nicely there phil - nice to see vicky in the background there.

 

Keith

Thanks Keith,

I suspect vicky is a bit jealous of all the attention her big sister is getting so she snuck into the pic out of spite

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

[Louie da fly]

I've missed this topic. The Warrior is really looking good. And if you want to get some information on some obscure detail, Wiltshire's not that far from Portsmouth (he says, as an Australian where a trip of 878 km between Melbourne and Sydney is all in a day's driving).

 

By the way if you want to continue the Portsmouth collection without having to build the Mary Rose (as dicussed earlier), there's always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M33

 

Steven

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[Philg88]

3 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

I've missed this topic. The Warrior is really looking good. And if you want to get some information on some obscure detail, Wiltshire's not that far from Portsmouth (he says, as an Australian where a trip of 878 km between Melbourne and Sydney is all in a day's driving).

 

By the way if you want to continue the Portsmouth collection without having to build the Mary Rose (as dicussed earlier), there's always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M33

 

Steven

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Thanks Steven,

M33 may well be the pigeon. Once the Warrior is finished we shall see.

Best,

Philip

[BANYAN]

Nice progress Phil, some nice detail you are adding

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Philg88]

Forward bridge complete and fitted. This is a time consuming and fiddly job to say the least! The decoration that runs around the bridge edge is made by twisting three strands of 1 mm brass wire together then hammering them flat on an anvil block. The handrail is 2 mm brass wire hammered flat.  These were then bent into shape using a forming template. Billing's instruction for the edge decoration was to use rigging thread - yuk!

 

 

 

[clearway]

wb phil- looking even more impressive.

 

Keith

[MESSIS]

great work there! why stopped?

[MESSIS]

HMS Warrior: Am just finding out (I am a Cypriot) that her sister ship (were two identicsl ships,  both  build and lunched as ironclad class ships between 1859-1861) HMS Black Prince, with his captain, then the Duke of Edinburg, was one of the ships that came to Cyprus, when back in 1878, the British Empire was to take over Cyprus from the Ottoman Empire. It was a squad of 7 or 8 ships coming from Suda bay (Crete Greece) under Vice Admiral Lord John Hay and his flagship HMS Minotaur.*

 

Not as HMS Warrior,  Black Prince was twice renamed after 1901 and finaly sold as scrap in1923.**

 

 

* Sir G.Hill’s book: “A History of Cyprus” Vol III. Cambridge 1952

**other sources

Edited June 9, 2018 by MESSIS

[Philg88]

OK, the build hasn't stopped -it's just proceeding at a glacial pace.

 

Boat Construction

 

General Pics - alas she is so big it is almost impossible for me to take a full profile photo

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BANYAN]

Glacial or not, you have still achieved some significant progress and it is looking very good.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[popeye the sailor]

wow!  some really nice progress since I last looked in     she looks awesome!   this one is on my list.........once I can afford her  

[Philg88]

Thanks for the encouragement guys. Rigging is proceeding and although tedious quite satisfying. Will post some pics when the foremast is done.

[KeithAug]

Hello Phil, Just found your build. I have always been a fan of Warrior ever since I  first visited her about 20 years or so ago. I have visited many times since. I will be pleased to follow as you complete your build.

[Gahm]

This is a very interesting build! I always was intrigued by Warrior. And you do an excellent job on your model!

 

Thomas

[Tector]

I love the build as a whole, but that deck in particular turned out beautifully.

[Philg88]

This is the rather Health-Robinson jig I have created to attach the dead eyes to the fore top. Seems to work OK. Note the grips on the crocodile clip are covered with heat shrink to prevent damage to the painted dead eye.

 

[popeye the sailor]

the one thing I see is that the dead eye attached to the top,  isn't captured on both sides.  when the shroud line is rigged,  it may pull to one side and might offset the looks of the assembly.  running the fotock line though the hole,  capturing the dead eye,  and running it back though the same hole,  would do the job better I think.

[Philg88]

Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, the hole in the fore top is currently too small for the line to go back through it. Maybe I can extend it slightly so that can be done but there is not much room. I shall ruminate and cogitate for a while and see what can be done.

Cheers,

Philip 🍺

[Kevin]

did this build continue?

[mtaylor]

8 hours ago, Kevin said:

did this build continue?

Not that I can see, Kevin.  His last visit to MSW was shortly after his last post.

[NoelSmith]

Visited the Warrior in Portsmouth about a couple of years before covid hit.    What an impressive ship!   Also William Mowll's fantastic model in the reception area.

 

This model that Phil is building will be a cracking good model from what I have seen of it so far.  Looks enormous!

Might be on the cards as a build sometime in the future if only I could find a kit in 200th scale! I have heard of another company named Constructo making a kit of Warrior to check out the scale of.

The only other Warrior kit I have heard of is a small resin waterline kit.

 

The CSS Alabama also appeals but the Bluejacket one is 1/96th scale, so again an enormous model! I think that the Mamoli 1/120th scale one is not much smaller either.

Looking at Andrew Bowcock's 1/192nd scale drawings in his book seems a nice size to make a model in. Not too big and not too small so that it can be fully detailed.

Edited January 10 by NoelSmith