Mumin Posted July 27, 2016 #61 Posted July 27, 2016 Richard, the plans and dimensions are for two variants: 60cm length/7 keel holders and 100cm length/11 keel holders but certainly can be modified. BTW, some credits are in order, since the explanations on the plans are in Polish. This building slip is a part of group project "Baltic galeas Karl und Marie" meant as an introduction to scratch building. All the plans are available, along with sample build log by Romek Sobolewski. Original author of the building slip is Marek Mróz, the modifications and all the plans are prepared by Radek Kubera, Mirek Rybus and Jarek Bąkowski. The project was conceived somewhere in 2005, but is still very much alive - just recently several new modelers started their build logs on koga forum. Canute, WackoWolf and mtaylor 3 Quote
gsxrdave1974 Posted January 4, 2017 #62 Posted January 4, 2017 nearly finished building mine what's the minimum width of hull it can take as i have a paper and card hms cleopatra which i could use it for WackoWolf, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
Haliburton Posted January 6, 2017 #63 Posted January 6, 2017 This building slip does look good - it also seems to be sold out everywhere, Amazon, eBay etc! Canute, WackoWolf and mtaylor 3 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
mtaylor Posted January 7, 2017 #64 Posted January 7, 2017 Have you checked the manufacturer... http://www.hobbyzone.pl/en/ ? They might be able to point you in the right direction to someone with stock. Canute and Haliburton 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Haliburton Posted January 7, 2017 #65 Posted January 7, 2017 Hi Mark, it's a good thought, thanks. Scott mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Nirvana Posted January 7, 2017 #66 Posted January 7, 2017 Currently available at Amazon Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Nirvana Posted January 7, 2017 #67 Posted January 7, 2017 Brian, That's so weird, when I double checked the website, it showed the big one....just the one I wanted. I also had Hobby zones website open to verify the product. I am so sorry for any inconvenience this may have triggered. mtaylor, Brian the extraordinaire, Haliburton and 1 other 4 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Seahorse Posted August 15, 2017 #68 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) I am currently building a HobbyZone Jig, and note some minor irregularities with "aydingocors" build. (Be aware...The plans supplied with the kit are printed using varying shades of very light grey. They are extremely difficult to interpret any fine detail). I have found it far easier to visit the Hobbyzone site and look closely at the promotional pictures of the jig, to clear up any doubts. http://www.hobbyzone.pl/en/boat-building-tools/26-professional-building-slip.html Where "aydingocors" build varies from the display model, can be seen in the attached pic. The spacer blocks should be glued to the bottom of the support bracket, to allow the bracket to be able to range over the keel supports if necessary. Also, the support brackets should be glued as shown in the pic, to allow the vertical support frame to sit fully on the base rather than overhang it slightly. Note, the actual jig shown on the HobbyZone site appears to be a slightly different design to the instructions supplied with the kit....My intention is to use the pictures on their site as my main reference in future and proceed accordingly. Please be aware that this is in no way meant as a criticism of "aydingocors" fine build log.....It is only meant to alert potential builders that it is possible to assemble some components incorrectly. My advice is to ...Check, double check and then check again, before assembling any of the modules. Also of note...My kit was supplied with standard hex head bolts, rather than the socket headed cap screws as shown on the display model. I will be replacing all of the supplied hardware with stainless steel cap screws, nuts and washers. It should be far easier to use an allen key when setting up the jig, rather than a ROE (Ring/Open End). Also possibly less chance of over tightening (Spanner/Wrench slipping off the nuts etc). For the money this jig costs, I would have expected it to be supplied with SS fittings and I also have long term concerns for the MDF...particularly in humid conditions. Edited August 15, 2017 by Seahorse Osmosis, Archi, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote
philly777 Posted October 17, 2017 #69 Posted October 17, 2017 Could you please advise if this will work for ships with the keel length more than 100cm? Quote
aydingocer Posted October 18, 2017 Author #70 Posted October 18, 2017 9 hours ago, philly777 said: Could you please advise if this will work for ships with the keel length more than 100cm? According to the manufacturer's specs max keel length is 100cm but there may be a degree of tolerance, though I doubt it will work with keels significantly longer than that. Specs: http://www.hobbyzone.pl/en/boat-building-tools/26-professional-building-slip.html Nirvana, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current : HMS Sphinx by Vanguard ------------- Completed: Orient Express Sleeping Car by Amati Bluenose II (Artesania Latina) Istanbul Tram - Occre Bluenose II - Artesania Latina Bosphorus Sandal Fishing Boat Riva Aquarama - Amati Titanic - Mantua Bosphorus Fishing Boat - Tersane Model San Juan Nepomuceno - Artesania Latina Bluenose - Billing Boats
Papa Posted October 28, 2017 #71 Posted October 28, 2017 On 5/15/2016 at 5:09 AM, WackoWolf said: Just order it from there web site and use PayPal smart pay. Had no problems, don't know why it's not working for you. Cost me $75.95 total. When I went to the site the price was $75.95, so they must have gone up on it by $10.00, but it was free shipping. I just checked the link and it is up to $88.95 + shipping--total would be over $100. Hobby World USA has it for $64.99 +$13 shipping mtaylor, Canute and Jaxboat 3 Quote
Papa Posted November 4, 2017 #72 Posted November 4, 2017 i received my building slip a couple days ago. I will depend heavily on this build log. Aydingocer's photos are much clearer than the directions. mtaylor, Nirvana and Canute 3 Quote
aydingocer Posted November 4, 2017 Author #73 Posted November 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, ragove said: i received my building slip a couple days ago. I will depend heavily on this build log. Aydingocer's photos are much clearer than the directions. Good luck with the build and remember to check a few posts above by seahorse where one of my mistakes in the build has been addressed. Regards, Aydin Nirvana, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current : HMS Sphinx by Vanguard ------------- Completed: Orient Express Sleeping Car by Amati Bluenose II (Artesania Latina) Istanbul Tram - Occre Bluenose II - Artesania Latina Bosphorus Sandal Fishing Boat Riva Aquarama - Amati Titanic - Mantua Bosphorus Fishing Boat - Tersane Model San Juan Nepomuceno - Artesania Latina Bluenose - Billing Boats
Papa Posted November 4, 2017 #74 Posted November 4, 2017 5 hours ago, aydingocer said: Good luck with the build and remember to check a few posts above by seahorse where one of my mistakes in the build has been addressed. Regards, Aydin thanks mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
Jaxboat Posted November 5, 2017 #75 Posted November 5, 2017 I agree with all of the comments on this blog. I also had some plan reading issues but they were minor and I was able to recover quickly. I am building Confederacy which is a big model and the building slip has been a very welcome tool. I also use an Amati hull clamp but it proved too small for a project of this size and weight. However, it will remains my choice for more modest sized models. I also purchased and use the paint brush stand which again is very nice. I have my shipyard in my garage in Northern Florida. Our humidity is world class in the summer and so far no issues with the MDF. Best Jaxboat kuya, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
Papa Posted November 6, 2017 #76 Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) I have been wondering if a few coats of varnish on the building slip would help to clean up glue spills and the like. Thoughts? Edited November 6, 2017 by ragove Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted November 6, 2017 #77 Posted November 6, 2017 6 hours ago, ragove said: I have been wondering if a few coasts of varnish on the building slip would help to clean up glue spills and the like. Thoughts? Varnish won't hurt. But give some thought to a good waxing, perhaps car wax or a paste wax for wood. mrcc, Heronguy, John Allen and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Papa Posted November 7, 2017 #78 Posted November 7, 2017 Thanks for the reminder. A paste wax after varnish is a good plan. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
Papa Posted November 30, 2017 #79 Posted November 30, 2017 I finished the ship building jig and set up the Victory that I started several years ago, I need to get back to it to relieve the boredom of tying the ratlines on my Granado. Canute, alde and John Allen 3 Quote
Papa Posted December 4, 2017 #80 Posted December 4, 2017 Does anyone know the size of the nuts and bolts included with this jig? I wanted to substitute some thumb screws, wing nuts and some longer bolts. I thought they were #10-32 but that doesn't seem to work. I am guessing that they are metric. Quote
Jack12477 Posted December 4, 2017 #81 Posted December 4, 2017 Take one of the bolts and go to your Loews or Home Depot stores, in their hardware department on the wall/bin rack they have measuring jigs that will give you the exact size and thread. Canute, Nirvana and mtaylor 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Mike Y Posted December 4, 2017 #82 Posted December 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, ragove said: Does anyone know the size of the nuts and bolts included with this jig? I wanted to substitute some thumb screws, wing nuts and some longer bolts. I thought they were #10-32 but that doesn't seem to work. I am guessing that they are metric. The theory sounds plausible, considering that the jig is designed and/or produced in Poland davyboy, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Papa Posted December 5, 2017 #83 Posted December 5, 2017 A bit of detective work on line and a visit to Lowes confirms that the bolts are metric M5-0.8. The "0.8" is "pitch" and it converts to a tad under 32 threads per inch (31.75 in fact ) That's why it looked like a #10 32. The M5 part i think refers to 5mm diameter.. The jig is turning out to be very handy. I am trying to shape the bulkheads for planking, John Allen, Jack12477, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote
Papa Posted December 7, 2017 #84 Posted December 7, 2017 This building slip is really versatile, here I turned the Victory upside down to get at the stern. I do need to replace the bolts with thumb screws or knurled ends to speed up changing things mtaylor, alde, Tigerdvr and 1 other 4 Quote
Tigerdvr Posted January 5, 2018 #85 Posted January 5, 2018 I've had one for a while and am using it for my Confederacy build. There are a number of different configurations and applications only limited by the users imagination. It is very stable. I like it a lot. The picture shows a base board only. Cheers, Harley Ryland Craze, mtaylor, Nirvana and 3 others 6 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood
Thunder Posted January 15, 2018 #86 Posted January 15, 2018 Hello Harley, just a word of caution. I had mine on a little table as you have shown yours, with the ends unsupported, and the ends have sagged. I have not been able to get it back the other way even after doing the reverse. Heronguy, Canute, Altduck and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
andante Posted April 10, 2018 #87 Posted April 10, 2018 I had to ask Hobbyzone about the small holes in end supports. See the slots on both sides of the concave piece (picture 4 in instructions)? If you need to change the height of this piece, "the slots have to be in one line with small holes on both sides, then you will know that vertical is fine", said Hobbyzone. As for the small nails in the ziplock bag - they are included to give more strength to the snappers in picture 6. "The spacer blocks should be glued to the bottom of the support bracket, to allow the bracket to be able to range over the keel supports if necessary." I finally understood what Seahorse wanted to say earlier - but not before I had glued them on top.. Hobbyzone sent me new parts free of charge. I would call that good customer service. The picture shows the correct setup. alde, Ryland Craze, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote
Thunder Posted May 16, 2018 #88 Posted May 16, 2018 I added the side pieces shown below to mine. Just helps keep everything in line when sliding along between fixing bulkheads. mtaylor, Ian B and alde 3 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Papa Posted May 21, 2018 #89 Posted May 21, 2018 The side pieces are an excellent idea. i will have to add those to mine. Ron Gove mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
Papa Posted June 18, 2018 #90 Posted June 18, 2018 this jig is quite versatile. Canute, Nirvana, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote
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