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  • 1 month later...

As it has been june since my last update I could not resist. ;)

 

Work progress is steady but slow with the plancking. Specially on the bow part each piece takes a lot of time..... First setting it out on carton, transferring it to wood. First sawing it roughly then sanding it to size. 10-15 minutes in water and clamming it in place. then having it dried (mostly and best overnight) gluing it in place. Which due to some of the forces (curving and tordation) also must take overnight. As I am working on both sides simultaneously, I can do max about 3 to 4 pieces per day. But looking at the result I am satisfied. Forget the small openings, I can rework them later as also I need some overall sanding when finished.

 

It is not as nice and smooth as I could do with for example pearwood, but I am happy with how it looks. I guess that in those they weren't as good looking as we think they might have been.

 

I let the picture speak for themself. The last one is the status per yesterday.

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Wow Hans.....

 

I was following you very in silence at the dutch forum but now I can say something......

Wow again it should be.

I wil follow this with a lot of interest.

And I'm happy that you wil show us your skills on MSW.

Now not only the Dutch people can see what masterpiece this is, but the whole world !

 

Sjors

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hans, 

That is one awesome looking model. Excellent details as well. You are doing a great job putting in all the details. 

I have this book from Blom as well. It is a very detailed book with lots of diagrams. This is something I might build in about 10 years from now. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

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truly remarkable planking......really neat how you jogged and scarfed the planking.   a good finish afterwards will bring out the grain...gonna be good ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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  • 1 month later...

Well its been some time so here another update.

The STB side of the hull planking beneath the first whale has been closed. As said earlier, its a tedious work but I am very happy!!

It really starts to look like a ship :).

 

I put the present state into the sun to get some non-TL light pictures. It gives a whole other dimension.

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During the planking I started to doubt if I should not leave the port side as it is so you could see how it was build, but I decided against it. I did not like the view. So I am up for another tedious part of weeks planking....

This shows while still hanging upside down but just finished.

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I am happy with the looks of the bow. This picture is from before the first sanding.

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Also the aft looks good, some points needs some work but overal its satisfying. (and for the sharp eyes, yes I am going to redo the rudder, I already stripped it partly. I did the rudder much too early as I now find out. Same with the bow. In the planking you still damage the keel and the bow. But I already have an idea how I can rework them later.....

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So it will be for quite some time before you will hear from me again. as there are some holidays on its way and I doubt if I can finish port side planking before end of this year.... we will see......

 

regards, Hans...

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  • 2 weeks later...

it's slow and meticulous.......but the end result is very pleasing to the eye  :)    I love that last shot.......it looks so smooth!   beautiful work ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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  • 2 months later...

Just a very short update to let know that I haven't gone...

Haven't done anything since last october. No lust, other projects, holidays, etc etc.

So the ship went up the attic untill I found it was time again. And it was! I also decided that I will close the ship and not leave anything open, hence I have to close the plancking on the portside now. Up for another tedious job, but it is no else. I want to get it done so as to turn the ship upright and again and that I can continue the build up again.

 

Just 1 pick of the first planck of this year :)... I will post again when this side is closed as well.  Have fun building. Hans.

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very nice to hear you've continued work on her again.   I really like these large model ships,  and your is no exception.   when the finish goes on the hull,  the grain is is going to be spectacular!   look forward in seeing more  :) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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very nice planking job YankeeD,  :)

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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very interesting planking system.......especially in the plank hold down phase.  very nicely done in quite innovative  ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Promised to be back when the planking on the portside was finished, I have finished, pffffff.

The pictures are going back in time of the last stages.

 

Tomorrow I can sand it all and then turn her up again. Wondering what the next stage will be???? I have noi clue, when she is upside again I will see and decide.

 

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just thinking how it will look with the finish on.......the wood grain 's gonna be phenomenal!  ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Thanks all!!!

 

She is upright again, but I am really having a hard time on deciding how/what/where to continue???

 

I want to redo the rudder, so for that it might be handier to turn her upside down again... and I also want to make the bow nicer as it has some dents from doing the planking...

 

Fixing the stern and the frames stille missing and then continue the planking upwards before building the next deck.....

 

Gunports...

 

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Beautiful building, wonderful pattern for others !! I'm holding my thumbs, no problem with the sequel. :imNotWorthy:  :imNotWorthy:O.

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Well another month passed and some holidays in between and a bad eye infection thatkept me from working on the ship. But we still had some progress.

I found a discrepancy on the gunports. Both side the same. So I decided to first correct that and then to fix the stern and the missing frames to the stern.

After that I intend to start the hull planking upwards.

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I know the white line of the (Rahout??) is not correct but its on purpose to get the correct lining for the frames. Once the frames are ok I will return to the correct line.

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Have a nice weekend all.

 

 

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I had to do some rework on the Forecastle deck which I already knew but now was the time to do it.

The running and lines of the frames were not good. After sanding I had so few thickness left I had to thicken the frames.

According to the drawings by Blom the top of the railing of the forecastle deck railing should be a straight line but I will kee a slight curve. 

 

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Here below the portside has been done, the starboard side still needs to be done, which in the meantime has been done as well

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The next step will be the planking up to what we call 'het rahout' .

 

And here I have a question. Both Blom and Monfeld mention in general terms about the scarfs/joints of the planks. But this is mainly below the wales.

I cannot find anything about the planking joints above the second wale.

 

Looking to Winter's photos you also cannot determine, although it looks like straight joints and this might be the more logical as the many interruptions by the gunports.

 

I think I will use straight/flat joints as it makes life easier..  Any comments/thoughts are welcome.....

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beautiful work YankeeD,

 

1:50 is a very nice scale for her too....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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I've never done a model using these joints....or I may have and was too inexperienced to know to do it  ;)    I would say that if your in doubt,  keep doing it the way your doing it.  I can't imagine that the builders would change methods like that.  after all,  they were out to build a strong vessel.

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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