SawdustDave Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share #661 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) SPECIAL EVENT CELEBRATION..... This photo has a very special meaning for me personally. As I have said in an earlier comment, this model of the USS Constitution will be my last major tall ship. With that in mind, and knowing just how much I struggle with tying ratline clove hitch knots, this posting is to celebrate the last ratline clove hitch of my life. Midway down the Mizzen topmast shrouds (port side). Edited October 3, 2018 by SawdustDave fnick, Jack12477, Landlubber Mike and 14 others 17 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted October 3, 2018 Share #662 Posted October 3, 2018 Never say never, Dave. Canute, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 2 others 5 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share #663 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, usedtosail said: Never say never, Dave. The question raised my curiosity, so I did a rough estimation, for the fifteen tall ships I've done (includes two restorations)..... over 30,000 clove hitch knots! That is quite enough, thank you. Not saying I will give up modeling Tom. Just that my next project will be something that does not include masts with shrouds and ratlines. You can take that to the bank. Edited October 3, 2018 by SawdustDave Canute, mtaylor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share #664 Posted October 29, 2018 SHIP MODELERS BURNOUT.... How many of you have experienced it? In my case, following four other major ship builds, non-stop, (all scratch builds), and now with over 2,500 hours into my fifth, and most important build, I find that I am experiencing complete modelers burnout. I have decided it's time to step away for a long break, before proceeding any further along with the critical stage of rigging the spars for this USS Constitution. For me, when I reach this stage, it's a matter of getting plain sloppy in my work. Daily mistakes, getting in a hurry, poor measurements, rip-outs and reworks..... So, amid the process of creating her lower spars, I've removed the Connie from my work bench for now. Here is a shot of work in progress on the six lower spars.... ccoyle, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted October 29, 2018 Share #665 Posted October 29, 2018 I think my modeler's funk on HMS Fly is currently in year seven. I haven't finished any model in just about four years now, and I'm forcing myself through my current project bit by painful bit. I hope that reaching the finish line on this one will prove to be a catalytic experience of sorts. We'll see. In the meantime, I still enjoy watching the work of others take shape. Enjoy your break! mtaylor, Jack12477, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share #666 Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) MEANWHILE..... MY NEW FUN PROJECT.... Since I still have a passion for working in my shop, I decided to take a shot at a major carving project. Note: My first car ever was a 1951 XK 120 Jaguar roadster I was able to completely restore to mint condition. In the world of automobiles, I still consider it to be the ultimate in sports car classics. So beginning with a block of choice popler (2.5" X 7") I am attempting to create a 1/24 scale model of that little beauty. I only wish I could, somehow, reproduce the amazing sound of the in-line six revved to the red line. I removed the progress pics and started a new log in the "Shore Leave" section as recommended by members. See ya there Since this is a ship modelers venue, I will not bore you mates with more of this project in the future. Please wish me luck. Edited October 30, 2018 by SawdustDave usedtosail, mtaylor, paulsutcliffe and 4 others 7 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted October 29, 2018 Share #667 Posted October 29, 2018 That's a great project Dave. I am sorry you are on hold with the Connie, but this looks like a good diversion. Good luck with it. Canute, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted October 29, 2018 Share #668 Posted October 29, 2018 that's 'super dave'.....to me it's so much more satisfaction in carving, or even modeling clay sculpture.......would much rather carve than build ships, but somehow i've built ships.......if you were a more mediocre ship builder like me, you would be able to get through them easily haha.......your passion for detail, is probably the cause of combustion ...sure whatever you'll do it will be great......and you'll know when it will be time to finish the constitution...cheers 😊 CaptainSteve, Piet, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 29, 2018 Share #669 Posted October 29, 2018 Hi Dave, I think many if not all of us have a burn out at some point in a build. Maybe open a log for the sweet Jag in the non-ship model area? I'd love to see this one being done. Jack12477, paulsutcliffe, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsutcliffe Posted October 29, 2018 Share #670 Posted October 29, 2018 I agree with Mark open a log in shore leave, I would certainly like to see the rest of this build Regards Paul Piet, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48 Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48 Previous builds- Elidir - Thames steam barge Cutty Sark-Billings boats Wasa - billings boats Among others 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share #671 Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the flattering words Vic and Tom. Mark...and Paul.... I had not considered opening a log in another section. In fact, was unaware of such a section. Will definitely look into it. Cheers All Edited October 29, 2018 by SawdustDave Canute, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted October 29, 2018 Share #672 Posted October 29, 2018 Me too ! Canute, SawdustDave and mtaylor 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted October 30, 2018 Share #673 Posted October 30, 2018 33 minutes ago, SawdustDave said: In fact, was unaware of such a section. Will definitely look into it. It's a new sub-forum of Shore Leave, Dave. Lots of interesting non-ship modeling. Canute, mtaylor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share #674 Posted October 30, 2018 Working on it Jack. Starting a new log. Thanks Canute, Jack12477 and Piet 3 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 30, 2018 Share #675 Posted October 30, 2018 I just moved it Dave. I'll leave a "pointer" for you and others. It's in the non-ship model area. Piet and Canute 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Matson Posted October 30, 2018 Share #676 Posted October 30, 2018 I know just how you feel. I am at the rigging point in my build and I have taken about 9 months off. In that time I have accomplished a lot of other things that needed m y attention. I am now excited to get back at it. For me the late fall and winter are the best times for modeling. I am now in the process of cleaning my work area and looking forward to getting back at it. A word of advice for anyone attempting to build the Constitution. It is a daunting project. It is a large model, with a ton of rigging. I now know why a lot of modelers build Admiralty style models. I am now on my sixth year of building the Constitution. I am now retired and try to keep my modeling sessions down to about an hour at a time, then take a break. Right now I am working an hour in the morning, an hour in the afternoon, and an hour after dinner. I am determined to finish this labor of love. Dave, if you feel you need a break, by all means take it. I have followed your progress and you doing a great job. Just remember, the Conny will be there when you are ready to get back at it. Happy modeling Canute, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Geoff NRG member #2666Current build : USS Constitution Finished builds: Armed Virginia Sloop (in gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share #677 Posted October 30, 2018 Thanks Geoff. Great advice to modelers regarding building this model. Definitely not an undertaking for beginners. Cheers CaptainSteve, Geoff Matson, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted October 30, 2018 Share #678 Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, SawdustDave said: Thanks Geoff. Great advice to modelers regarding building this model. Definitely not an undertaking for beginners. Cheers Dave....so true. Many years ago after I built my third Cutty Sark model...I diverted. I refocused and began modeling period HO steam model layouts. those are a bit more diversified in their subject matter. In addition to model railroading...I build Refractor telescopes(In my machine shop area of my shop)...and I dabble in furniture making as well(In my wood working area). So...I've had to diversify my hobbies to stay interested. I'll jump into one for a time and as I finish up a project(Or not), I tend to get re-inspired, and then I'm back at clipper ship modeling(Or what-ever). I have 4 scratch builds on the ways...not to mention several telescope projects...and now my wife needs me to build her a new Maple mantle for the living room before Christmas. Hang in there, and I'll bop in and see your new log...great job. Rob mtaylor, Landlubber Mike, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 12, 2018 Share #679 Posted December 12, 2018 Nice work on the Connie Dave and I'll see you back here when you start working on her again. I'm only 84 so take your time to find finding your mojo again, send up a smoke signal. In the meantime I'll find your Jag build and keep you company. Cheers, Canute, Omega1234, SawdustDave and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share #680 Posted December 13, 2018 So here we are again, all refreshed after taking a little break to build my little Jag. Picked up where I left off building the spars.... dozens of jackstay eyebolts to install on five more spars should keep me occupied for a few days. Cheers Piet, JesseLee, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 14, 2018 Share #681 Posted December 14, 2018 Glad you are back! Canute, mtaylor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipWrong Posted December 15, 2018 Share #682 Posted December 15, 2018 never rush into any project, the right frame of mind definitely helps we know where to find you as long as you finish - finish strong mtaylor, Canute and Piet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundie Posted December 17, 2018 Share #683 Posted December 17, 2018 What a awesome job!!!!!! Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote J. Mundie Jr. Current Build- Constitution MS 2040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share #684 Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) UPDATE..... Thinking, a few friends may be wondering if I'm actually back to this build after taking a little "fun break". Well here's your evidence..... and a good laugh to go with it. Finishing up the Cross Jack Yards, and the Topsail Yards went pretty well since I had already shaped them and had them ready for the eyebolts and iron works. It didn't take long for me to regain the silver soldering technique required to complete the iron works. The laugh comes when I moved on to shape the Royal and Topgallant yards. Got them all turned and, the ones with eyebolts and iron works were finished.... something just didn't seem right. When laid along with the longer yards, the LENGTHS did not fit my eye. Checked all measurements against the drawing specs..... everything was perfect. RECHECKED..... still perfect. Then it hit me..... When I took the specs and made the layout sketch, I had not re-scaled them from 1:72 to fit my 1/60th scale!!!! After a few choice words I cannot repeat here.... Back to the lathe. Think we got it right this time. This, along with all the holiday activity, and trying to remove a mountain of oak tree leaves from my yard has kept me occupied. Happy New Year all! Edited December 27, 2018 by SawdustDave mtaylor, Tigersteve, Piet and 6 others 9 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted December 28, 2018 Share #685 Posted December 28, 2018 Nice yards you got there Dave, including the one emerging from under the leaves. Happy New Year to you and your family. SawdustDave, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 28, 2018 Share #686 Posted December 28, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 12:18 PM, rwiederrich said: So...I've had to diversify my hobbies to stay interested. I'll jump into one for a time and as I finish up a project(Or not), I tend to get re-inspired, and then I'm back at clipper ship modeling(Or what-ever). I have 4 scratch builds on the ways...not to mention several telescope projects.. I hear you! Good to see that you are still getting work done Dave, in the end it is my opinion that it really does not matter on what one works so long as the reason for doing it, is to bring you peace of mind (isn't that why we work at hobbies). Have fun in the new year. Michael Canute, Landlubber Mike, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share #687 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Question for Tom, Ken, or any others with opinions on rigging sequence of this model. While still working on preparing the yards.... now adding foot ropes.... I have begun studying the rigging plans in more detail. The question, for those, traveled this road before me.... Best starting point. Fore to aft? Top-down yards, or lower-up? The standing rigging and bow sprit pretty much completed long ago..... any advise as to which spars I hang first? Happy New Year All Dave Edited December 31, 2018 by SawdustDave Tigersteve, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted December 31, 2018 Share #688 Posted December 31, 2018 I started bow first, bottom up - bowsprit, lower yards, topsail yards, etc. At each level I went fore, main, mizzen. I don't know if this is the best sequence but it worked for me. Have fun with the rigging. I had a blast. Piet, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted January 4, 2019 Share #689 Posted January 4, 2019 Good to see you back here Dave and that with such nice looking yards. Gwen and I wish you and your family a very good and healthy 2019. Cheers, Canute, SawdustDave, JesseLee and 1 other 4 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share #690 Posted January 9, 2019 UPDATE.... RIGGING THE YARDS: Getting the lower yards hanging level completed. Each secured with halliard tackle after hanging with slings and jeer blocks. Reaching in to work with tools without damaging all the standing rigging is giving me a lot of heartburn. So far, no harm done. yancovitch, CaptainSteve, GrandpaPhil and 11 others 14 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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