Cathead Posted September 9, 2020 Author #541 Posted September 9, 2020 Some really amazing news: the Arabia was chosen as a featured model in the NRG's 2021 calendar, now available in the NRG store. The timing of this announcement is particularly good as we just passed the anniversary of her sinking on September 5. Please go buy a calendar and support the NRG! I still can't believe this was chosen. Roger Pellett, jmiba, leclaire and 4 others 7 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
kurtvd19 Posted September 9, 2020 #542 Posted September 9, 2020 Eric: Feel even better about it because I had absolutely no input on the selected images so the model made it without my positive bias toward riverboats. Kurt leclaire, joep4567, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
Cathead Posted September 9, 2020 Author #543 Posted September 9, 2020 LOL, I assumed you had a hand in it. You're right, now I feel even more dazed. mtaylor, mbp521 and Canute 3 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
joep4567 Posted September 9, 2020 #544 Posted September 9, 2020 Congratulations! This news is quite a nice honor I'm glad for you as it is well deserved! mbp521, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
mbp521 Posted September 9, 2020 #545 Posted September 9, 2020 That is great news. A model well deserving of being on the calendar. Congrats on being chosen Eric. -Brian mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways
Canute Posted September 9, 2020 #546 Posted September 9, 2020 Well done, Eric. Cathead 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
mtaylor Posted September 9, 2020 #547 Posted September 9, 2020 Congratulations Eric. I think this is the MSW equivalent of an Oscar. leclaire, Cathead and Canute 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
leclaire Posted September 10, 2020 #548 Posted September 10, 2020 Very well deserved, Eric. Nice to see your excellent work being recognized this way. I will most certainly buy a calendar. Bob mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote
LJP Posted September 10, 2020 #549 Posted September 10, 2020 Excellent! Your model is exquisite! And I have ordered an NRG 2021 calendar. LJP mtaylor, Cathead and Canute 3 Quote
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted September 17, 2020 #550 Posted September 17, 2020 congratulations Eric. She is really beautiful you should be proud. Vlad. mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote
Cathead Posted September 26, 2020 Author #551 Posted September 26, 2020 One more update: I finally made the trip down to the Missouri River for a photo shoot along Arabia's natural habitat. I had hoped to do this close to her actual sinking date of September 5, 1856, but this is only a few weeks off so conditions look pretty similar. I shot this at Eagle Bluffs Conservation Area, about 135 road miles downstream of her sinking location near Parkville, MO (just upriver from what is now downtown Kansas City); she would have passed this location many times in her service along the river. First, a reminder of the iconic painting used by the museum: And here are my two best attempts to recreate the setting and angle (try to ignore the stand): A few other shots at different angles: Me with the model: And for fun, a black and white shot as a what-if (she was never photographed, or at least no known photograph survives): The river itself looks very different than it would have in her time. Back then it would have been a broad, shallow, multi-channelled river full of sand bars and tree snags, carrying a lot of sediment and generally brown, always shifting across its mile-wide floodplain between bluffs several hundred feet tall. Now, it's been channelized for navigation into a single narrow deep channel that never moves, flows a lot faster, and carries far less sediment due to upstream dams. But the shape of the landscape hasn't changed much and she certainly saw that small bluff in the background. There are much larger and more dramatic bluffs in this stretch, but none that can easily be accessed for a photo shoot in this context. But I hope this gives at least a slight idea of how she might have looked churning her way up and downstream in service before finally hitting that snag in 1856, mtaylor, Bob Legge, allanyed and 21 others 23 1 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
kurtvd19 Posted September 26, 2020 #552 Posted September 26, 2020 Glad you resisted the urge to get a photo floating on the river mtaylor, joep4567, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
Cathead Posted September 26, 2020 Author #553 Posted September 26, 2020 Current's too strong. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
wefalck Posted September 26, 2020 #554 Posted September 26, 2020 With a bit of 'photoshopping', you could probably blend her into the river ... Canute, Cathead and mtaylor 3 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux
joep4567 Posted September 26, 2020 #555 Posted September 26, 2020 The boat is absolutely beautiful and the photography is equally as nice ! What a great effort! Cathead, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote
Cathead Posted September 26, 2020 Author #556 Posted September 26, 2020 Wefalck, I may play with that down the road, but didn't have the time currently and wanted to post them while the season was correct. It would be very neat to have a fully integrated shot. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
cog Posted September 26, 2020 #557 Posted September 26, 2020 Can you get me a HR shot from the river and one from your build so I can merge them together for you? The downward angle to river should be the same as to the model ... Canute, Cathead and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Cathead Posted September 27, 2020 Author #558 Posted September 27, 2020 Carl, That's a very generous offer. Unfortunately that river site is about 45 minutes from where I live, so it's not easy for me to pop back and take more. I wish I'd thought to take a few plain river views while I was there, it just did not occur to me. It is a site we like to go birding, though, so I think I'll be back there within a month and could try. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
Roger Pellett Posted October 1, 2020 #559 Posted October 1, 2020 Wonderful model and photos, and congratulations on her selection as a Calendar Girl. Cathead, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
Cathead Posted October 1, 2020 Author #560 Posted October 1, 2020 It won't feel real until I see her on the nose of a B-17. mtaylor, Canute and Roger Pellett 3 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
jmiba Posted October 14, 2020 #561 Posted October 14, 2020 On 5/11/2019 at 6:37 PM, kurtvd19 said: I can't find it but I have a photo of the interior of the J.M. WHITE showing the transverse hog chains in the dining room and how the passengers and crew had to be aware of them so they didn't hit their heads on them. Really? I'm not aware that there were those in the main cabin. I'd be interested in that photo. Too bad you can't find it. I'm modeling the J.M. White, so it'd be very helpful. This would have been the dining room (https://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.dl/ETDUW5IPJ3ADA8Q) mtaylor 1 Quote
kurtvd19 Posted October 14, 2020 #562 Posted October 14, 2020 I thought the photo I have was of the J.M. White but I must be mistaken. The photo I was thinking of was provided by Ralph DuPae who found/provided most of the photos in the museum's collection. jmiba and mtaylor 2 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
jmiba Posted October 14, 2020 #563 Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, kurtvd19 said: I thought the photo I have was of the J.M. White but I must be mistaken. The photo I was thinking of was provided by Ralph DuPae who found/provided most of the photos in the museum's collection. Transverse chains (knuckle chains) would have been in the hold - and, I wonder, on the main deck. They are not in the plans, however, but then, those were drawn from the sparse photos. So it’s guess work again. Moab and mtaylor 2 Quote
kurtvd19 Posted October 14, 2020 #564 Posted October 14, 2020 Here is some info on transverse chains from a talk at a NRG Conference in St. Louis, MO in 2013 presented by Jack Custer a noted expert on steamboats. Jack was the Editor and Publisher of the Egregious Steamboat Journal. The talk was on Steamboat Architecture. A photo of the J.M. White is also included. I think the drawings and photos were printed in the Egregious Steamboat Journal at some time. mtaylor, Cathead, jmiba and 2 others 4 1 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
jmiba Posted October 14, 2020 #565 Posted October 14, 2020 Thanks, @kurtvd19, those are great and rare photos. They’re gonna help me model the center stanchions that must have been present on the J.M. White. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
Rail and Tie Posted January 18, 2021 #566 Posted January 18, 2021 Stunning work. Well done and great subject matter! Canute, Cathead, jmiba and 2 others 5 Quote Darryl Jacobs Interaction Hobbies "I called to the other men that the sky was clearing, and then a moment later I realized that what I had seen was not a rift in the clouds but the white crest of an enormous wave." Ernest Shackleton www.interactionhobbies.com www.facebook.com/railandtie
Cathead Posted February 26, 2021 Author #567 Posted February 26, 2021 Anyone who followed this log might be interested in an upcoming talk I'll be giving: Steamboats symbolize a historic era in Missouri River exploration, commerce and transportation. Missouri River steamboats evolved over time, becoming ever more adapted to the basin’s unique environment while simultaneously altering it, much like an invasive species introduced into a new ecosystem. In this presentation, Eric Reuter will use hand-made scale models of Missouri River steamboats and other vessels to discuss the linked history of steamboat development and environmental changes in the Missouri basin, drawing on his professional and personal interests in the links between geology, ecology, history, and land management. Specific information, including how to watch, is available here. The time is 7 pm American Central time. Canute and leclaire 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
leclaire Posted February 26, 2021 #568 Posted February 26, 2021 Eric, I am really looking forward to your presentation. Bob mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote
michael mott Posted February 26, 2021 #569 Posted February 26, 2021 Hi Eric just signed up I am really looking forward to your presentation. Michael mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
kurtvd19 Posted February 26, 2021 #570 Posted February 26, 2021 I have seen this talk - Eric asked me to review it for him. It is excellent. I highly recommend it. Canute, Cathead, michael mott and 1 other 4 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
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