jaerschen Posted June 4, 2013 Share #241 Posted June 4, 2013 Your crow's nest looks very nice Ferit. The way how you rounded the stripes is subscribed Ferit 1 Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 5, 2013 Share #242 Posted June 5, 2013 Hello again Ferit you mentioned that you glued the end with CA. Was CA also used between layers or PVA. Its amazing what you can make wood do with water and heat. Ferit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share #243 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the answer Ferit. We have so an planck bender also but I can not work with it... All my planks are still broken so I'll do it on the old fashion way. Soaking and very careful…... Hello Sjors, My humble thought is that the success depends on what kind of wood you use, what thickness / width ratio has your strip, which temperature has the water, how long it's soaked and how enduring you are... With the hard wood it's impossible... 2 x 6 mm wood strip is more handleable than 2 x 4 mm's... The water has to be as hot as possible... The strip has to be soaked 5-10 minutes at least... Maybe the strip has to be soaked and bended more than 20 times, bended little by little so that even it becomes dried at every turn... (Please don't consider me as a snappish, I only tried to share my experience that in fact, everybody knows...) Edited June 5, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share #244 Posted June 5, 2013 Hello again Ferit you mentioned that you glued the end with CA. Was CA also used between layers or PVA. Its amazing what you can make wood do with water and heat. Hello Keith, Thank you again ... Between layers I used also CA. Sometimes I have not enough patience to wait that PVA becomes dry. But it's judicious to use PVA. In this wise it's more difficult to see the seam between layers... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share #245 Posted June 5, 2013 Ferit. I'm chiming in with praise for your hoops! You must make an instructional video of your technique. The first episode of MSW-TV! Thank you Brian for the kind comments... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share #246 Posted June 5, 2013 Your crow's nest looks very nice Ferit. The way how you rounded the stripes is subscribed Thank you Juergen, These words of a craftsman from the fantastic parallel universe (post #222) are much appreciated... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 5, 2013 Share #247 Posted June 5, 2013 I too have found that bending wood is a very slow patient process, with multiple soakings and shapings working best. The grain cut in the piece of wood also plays a part. For extreme bends try to hand pick a plank with grain that doesnt cross the planking. Where the wood fibre runs the full length of the plank. Heat is important, probably as much as wet, but not too much dry heat. Re-wetting is important. In furniture building, like the bent back winsor chairs, steaming the wood is usually used. Green wood is also a trick, I've been wanting to harvest some fresh Oak and attempt making an oak basket. I would have loved to watch you make them, Ferit. The things you can make wood do never ceases to amaze me. And Ferit, your a master. but mastery comes to all that will pay the price of TIME. Ferit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share #248 Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) . Hi and thank you Keith for the info, I am quite agree with you. Which tips you have added to the info are very important for bending... And thank you again for your precious comments, extremely encouraging me... Edited June 6, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #249 Posted June 8, 2013 The crow's nest for the spritsail of the bowsprit... For the base, kit had provided plywood, the base was rebuilt with walnut strips... JPett, cookster, popeye the sailor and 8 others 11 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted June 8, 2013 Share #250 Posted June 8, 2013 Perfect result Ferit, looks very professional! /Matti Ferit 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #251 Posted June 8, 2013 Thanks Matti, Your kindness as always... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted June 8, 2013 Share #252 Posted June 8, 2013 Beautifully crafted tops Ferit, very well done. B.E. Ferit 1 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 8, 2013 Share #253 Posted June 8, 2013 as always, excelllent craftsmanship. Outstanding work my friend! Ferit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted June 8, 2013 Share #254 Posted June 8, 2013 Oh Ferit, you always do amazing work... excellent crows-nests.... beautiful job! Ferit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted June 8, 2013 Share #255 Posted June 8, 2013 You are doing a very good job at the crow-nests....I like it. Ferit 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #256 Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) Beautifully crafted tops Ferit, very well done. as always, excelllent craftsmanship. Outstanding work my friend! Oh Ferit, you always do amazing work... excellent crows-nests.... beautiful job! You are doing a very good job at the crow-nests....I like it. Many thanks to all of you, I am very happy with your encouragements... Much appreciated... I have to work more harder to deserve them... Edited June 8, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 8, 2013 Share #257 Posted June 8, 2013 Great job again Ferit! Looks perfect to me. Ferit 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 9, 2013 Share #258 Posted June 9, 2013 Beautiful work on the tops, Ferit. Ferit 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #259 Posted June 9, 2013 Sjors and Mark... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer! Posted June 9, 2013 Share #260 Posted June 9, 2013 Just excelllent! Ferit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #261 Posted June 9, 2013 Thanks Eric, Meanwhile there have begun three shifts per day at your dockyard... I see many workers aboard HM Brig Badger... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted June 12, 2013 Share #262 Posted June 12, 2013 Yet more impressive work Ferit! Can't wait to see the rigging once it gets going! hamilton augie and Ferit 2 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share #263 Posted June 12, 2013 Hi Hamilton, Thank you for the kind comment. Rigging is a difficult period. The plans are not too clear to me... I try to understand the logic... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 12, 2013 Share #264 Posted June 12, 2013 Your rigging adventure will go just fine. Just have the run of every line firm in your mind before you break out the scissors! Take your time and enjoy it. At some point you'll step back, look at her and think "I really did that?" Ferit, themadchemist and mtaylor 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share #265 Posted June 12, 2013 Salute Augie, Your suggestion was registered... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted June 12, 2013 Share #266 Posted June 12, 2013 Ahoy Ferit I purchased this book to help me with my Berlin build. It came highly recommended The Rigging of Ships: in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast, 1600-1720 http://www.amazon.com/The-Rigging-Ships-Spritsail-1600-1720/dp/048627960X Ferit 1 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share #267 Posted June 12, 2013 Ahoy J.Pett, Delighted to see you again... This is a good choice and thank you for your suggestion... Fortunately I have this book already... And unfortunately I know that I have to be patient to see any update about your build... Ilhan Gokcay 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 13, 2013 Share #268 Posted June 13, 2013 To quote Augie At some point you'll step back, look at her and think "I really did that?" I dont know how many times thats happened to me. When I see just what I can accomplish by trying I never cease to amaze myself. Allow yourself to be amazed and bewildered, It makes life so much more an adventure. I know you'll get passed this and It will be amazing. I watched Randy (lamarvalley) talk about how he couldn't make 4 spoked canon wheels, then after some silent time BAM, I saw what makes me love this hobby. Genius's at work in so many logs, I wish I had time for them all. Sjors, augie and Ferit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted June 14, 2013 Share #269 Posted June 14, 2013 Hi Ferit, I'm embarrassed I've only just been able to catch up fully on your beautiful Berlin build log. The ship you made really doesn't look like a kit at all, and the wood tone and your detailed craftsmanship have really done her proud. I love that you described yourself as an "obsessed beginner" - there is nothing wrong with positive 'obsession' like yours, although I'd argue with the 'beginner' - looks like you've mastered so much already. The ship looks very natural as if the crew have just popped below for bit to eat, I love that look. Great stuff, can't wait to see more. Ferit 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share #270 Posted June 14, 2013 . Hello Jason, I am grateful to you for stopping by and for kind words... BTW, I can easily and certainly say that your HMS Snake is really impressive... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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