aviaamator Posted April 1, 2018 #61 Posted April 1, 2018 On the frame you can see the seams from the casting, I would clean them. And work first-class! popeye the sailor, Piet and Canute 3 Quote
mtaylor Posted April 1, 2018 #62 Posted April 1, 2018 Nice work, Mike. I'd vote for the half-and-half just because of the detail. But you're pilot or maybe squadron commander.... Mike Dowling, popeye the sailor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Piet Posted April 2, 2018 #63 Posted April 2, 2018 Yes Mike, just like the Camel with the exception to do the fuselage 3/4. Leave one side open, that'll give you enough viewing area for the entire inside. The plane looks really nice. Cheers, Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Mike Dowling Posted April 2, 2018 Author #64 Posted April 2, 2018 I am still thinking about the covering - or not. All thoughts welcomed. I have started the lower wing. Next stage is to cover the the ribs all round their edge with teeny weeny wood strips !! How many do you reckon I will break ? davyboy, druxey, Piet and 5 others 8 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Mike Dowling Posted April 2, 2018 Author #65 Posted April 2, 2018 The trick was to soak them first and then put them on and work around the bend very slowly. The result, 18 capped ribs and no breakages ! popeye the sailor, Jack12477, Piet and 10 others 13 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Mike Dowling Posted April 3, 2018 Author #66 Posted April 3, 2018 I discovered today that I had put the fuel tank in backwards !! Not a wonder I had to file so much off it. Anyway, situation remedied ! mtaylor, shihawk, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
aviaamator Posted April 3, 2018 #67 Posted April 3, 2018 Russian proverb: seven times measure - cut once... cog, Canute, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote
Dan Vadas Posted April 3, 2018 #68 Posted April 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, aviaamator said: Russian proverb: seven times measure - cut once... I've cut the same piece three times and it's STILL too short . Danny capnharv2, Piet, Canute and 8 others 11 Quote Cheers, Danny ________________________________________________________________________________ Current Build : Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues Build Logs : Norfolk Sloop HMS Vulture - (TFFM) HMS Vulture Cross-section 18 foot Cutter Concord Stagecoach 18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE CARD Model Build Logs : Mosel Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen) WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski) Rolls Royce Merlin Engine Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV) Stug 40 (Halinski) Yamaha MT-01 Yamaha YA-1 HMS Hood (Halinski) Bismarck (GPM) IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski) HMVS Cerberus Mi24D Hind (Halinski) Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (Modelik) Tanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik) Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik) Peterbuilt Semi Trailer Fender Guitar Restorations for Others : King of the Mississippi HMS Victory Gallery : Norfolk Sloop, HMAT Supply, HMS Bounty, HMS Victory, Charles W. Morgan, 18' Cutter for HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture Cross-section, 18th Century Longboat in a Bottle Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi
gjdale Posted April 3, 2018 #69 Posted April 3, 2018 Danny, You obviously need one of these. shihawk, Mike Dowling, leclaire and 15 others 19 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
mtaylor Posted April 4, 2018 #70 Posted April 4, 2018 Grant, It's a pity I have only one "like" for that video... Jack12477, Mike Dowling, gjdale and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
druxey Posted April 4, 2018 #71 Posted April 4, 2018 No, Dan: It's "Measure twice, cut once, then blame the tape measure." Canute, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 5 others 8 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Mike Dowling Posted April 4, 2018 Author #72 Posted April 4, 2018 Apart from relocating the fuel tank in the correct position (!!!!) the bottom wing is done unless of course I decide to cover half of it. Mike Y, Mirabell61, Ryland Craze and 9 others 12 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Piet Posted April 5, 2018 #73 Posted April 5, 2018 Nice looking wing Mike. Cheers, Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
cog Posted April 5, 2018 #74 Posted April 5, 2018 That one you certainly didn't wing it, Mike. Very good looking specimen of a lower wing popeye the sailor, Piet, Mike Dowling and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mike Dowling Posted April 7, 2018 Author #75 Posted April 7, 2018 Two wings !! Ryland Craze, mtaylor, herask and 11 others 14 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Torbogdan Posted April 7, 2018 #76 Posted April 7, 2018 Great build. Very nice. What are the leading edges made of? it looks like thin brass or some kind of metal foil? Piet, mtaylor, Mike Dowling and 2 others 5 Quote Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535
cog Posted April 7, 2018 #77 Posted April 7, 2018 Nice pair, Mike mtaylor, Piet, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mike Dowling Posted April 7, 2018 Author #78 Posted April 7, 2018 I might have expected that from you Carl !!! Sorry Torbogdan, don't know your real name, the lading edges are made from brass. I wish they were thinner as they are a beast to bend and if you don't get it right they tend to twist the wings. I have finally decided to do as I did before and half cover the plane. I have already started and will post a few pictures tomorrow. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Mike Dowling Posted April 8, 2018 Author #79 Posted April 8, 2018 The covering so far just to give an idea CaptainSteve, Ryland Craze, Dan Vadas and 14 others 17 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
aviaamator Posted April 8, 2018 #80 Posted April 8, 2018 Only very brave people could fly these planes! Class work! cog, Piet, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote
shihawk Posted April 8, 2018 #81 Posted April 8, 2018 lookin great , is it covered with something like tissue paper and dope like the old balsa models ???? Piet, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish
Mike Dowling Posted April 8, 2018 Author #82 Posted April 8, 2018 Just like that, good old tissue and dope. I did try painting the side without dope. Disaster ! I had to rip it off and start again. Dope first, paint second - lesson learnt. aviaamator, Canute, CaptainSteve and 6 others 9 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
cog Posted April 8, 2018 #83 Posted April 8, 2018 looks marvelous, caan't wait to see the third ... aviaamator, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Piet Posted April 9, 2018 #84 Posted April 9, 2018 Yes! That's the way to go Mike, it's looking marvelous. Any rib-stitching on the wings? Done my share of them, still have the needles. Cheers, Canute, Mike Dowling, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
mtaylor Posted April 9, 2018 #85 Posted April 9, 2018 Looks good Mike. Also appears to be either battle damage or a careless member of the ground crew put his foot through the wing. I had my share of those back itne days of my trying flying models.. easy fix though. Canute, popeye the sailor, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Mike Dowling Posted April 9, 2018 Author #86 Posted April 9, 2018 No wing stitching for me - far too clever. Th 'battle damage' is a hole for the wing strut. I think that makes it deliberate damage. popeye the sailor, Piet, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
cog Posted April 9, 2018 #87 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Then where is the battle damage on the centre wing? It should be shot right through I'd say ... loading your gun ...? Edited April 9, 2018 by cog CaptainSteve, Canute, Mike Dowling and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mike Dowling Posted April 11, 2018 Author #88 Posted April 11, 2018 Well so much for my covering skills ! The next stage as far as I was concerned was to cover the tissue with dope and then paint it. Bad mistake. I am sure that is how I did it when I was making flyable planes in my youth. Anyway I had to rip it off and do it again hence the delay in a post. The way to do it is as follows. Cover the wing with tissue as tight as possible without tearing it. Wait for it to dry. Then paint it gently with dilute PVA. That makes it go all soggy and look dreadful but, when it dries you have a lovely tight smooth finish. Then apply two coats of dope/laquer and then paint it with the required colour. So, my third attempt looks like this and at last I can start putting bits together. aviaamator, Canute, Ryland Craze and 10 others 13 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
Mike Dowling Posted April 11, 2018 Author #89 Posted April 11, 2018 Now it begins to look like an aeroplane ! Canute, mtaylor, gjdale and 8 others 11 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
cog Posted April 11, 2018 #90 Posted April 11, 2018 Looks better and better every time you update ... Any reason why you took the Red Baron colour scheme? Piet, popeye the sailor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
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