GrandpaPhil Posted August 11, 2018 #1 Posted August 11, 2018 Quick side project. I love the old P-61. It’s one of my favorite planes. I ran across this kit for a price that I couldn’t pass up. J Harreld, hexnut, thibaultron and 8 others 11 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CDW Posted August 11, 2018 #2 Posted August 11, 2018 Nice project, Phil. A teacher in elementary school claimed her husband was an engineer instrumental in the design of this plane. It's always been an interesting design to me. She was big, heavy, and fast. That Monogram kit will build into a beautiful model but I have heard it's a challenge. You'll be up to it I believe. Looking forward to seeing your progress. popeye the sailor, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
GrandpaPhil Posted August 11, 2018 Author #3 Posted August 11, 2018 That would have been cool to meet the family of one of the engineers. mtaylor, CDW, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 11, 2018 Author #4 Posted August 11, 2018 One assembled interior thibaultron, mtaylor, J Harreld and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 11, 2018 Author #5 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) One gun turret. I’ll paint the interior tomorrow, after all glue cures. Edited August 11, 2018 by GrandpaPhil coxswain, John Allen, CDW and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CDW Posted August 11, 2018 #6 Posted August 11, 2018 This plane had some very advanced fire control and radar systems for it's time. Heavily armed. lmagna, popeye the sailor, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
lmagna Posted August 11, 2018 #7 Posted August 11, 2018 I built this kit as a kid. It was a great kit if I remember correctly with lots of options of leaving things open to see guns and stuff. It I remember correctly though it is a bit tail heavy and if you want it to sit on the landing gear you will have to hide some weight in the nose and engines. thibaultron, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Canute Posted August 11, 2018 #8 Posted August 11, 2018 There used to be a guy who sold a cast weight for the nose. It would work unless you planned on showing off the radar antenna. I wish I could remember his name, sorry. You may be able to find some other aftermarket goodies for it. This website has some pretty good info, in case you are looking. https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/p-61/p-61_all.shtml mtaylor, lmagna, J Harreld and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
Jack12477 Posted August 11, 2018 #9 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) why not just use the weights they use in the Pinewood Soapbox derby cars the Scouts build and race - they can be cut to various sizes and would easily fit inside - I think Loews, Home Depot and Michaels all sell the kits and accessories. Edited August 11, 2018 by Jack12477 thibaultron, J Harreld, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
CDW Posted August 11, 2018 #10 Posted August 11, 2018 You would be surprised how much weight it takes to balance some of these models so they don't sit on the tail. That's the problem, figuring out how much weight to use and where to put it. It's not as easy as it seems. thibaultron, J Harreld, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
lmagna Posted August 11, 2018 #11 Posted August 11, 2018 I think I just glued BBs or lead shot into the nose and into the space behind the engines. I think the drop tanks are also forward of the main landing gear but I don't remember needing to put anything in them. I think there is room inside the main wings as well. Of course you can just make a stand and glue the wheels to it. mtaylor, thibaultron, J Harreld and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
knightyo Posted August 11, 2018 #12 Posted August 11, 2018 I also built this model as a kid. It was the neatest model of the bunch! Alan thibaultron, lmagna, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106
CDW Posted August 11, 2018 #13 Posted August 11, 2018 For future reference, here was a guy who once made the nose weights to fit specific models, including this one. This reference is 6 years old (May 31, 2012), so not sure if he's still making them today. https://modelingmadness.com/scott/accessories/td2006prices.htm thibaultron, lmagna, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
GrandpaPhil Posted August 13, 2018 Author #14 Posted August 13, 2018 Thank you for the tips on the weights. I’ll have to be careful on the balancing. I only got a little more done over the weekend. I dry brushed most of the interior an olive drab. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 17, 2018 Author #15 Posted August 17, 2018 I got most of the interior done last night. I still have some minor detail work to do. I also have about 70% of the heavy assembly done. My P-61 now looks like a plane. I spent quite a bit of time filling and blending in the seams. I’m going to try and finish the interior this weekend, so I can close it up, along with finishing the rest of the assembly. Hopefully, I’ll get a coat or two of paint on the model this weekend. CDW, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 1, 2018 Author #16 Posted September 1, 2018 I’ve been really busy the last few weeks and thus have only been able to sneak in a few minutes here and there. Yet, I’m almost done. I have the base coating done and most of the decals have been applied. I still have some detail work to do. But, here it is: Canute, CDW, jct and 9 others 12 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 1, 2018 Author #17 Posted September 1, 2018 I just used the markings out of the box. lmagna, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 1, 2018 Author #18 Posted September 1, 2018 My painting masks Canute, aviaamator, Landrotten Highlander and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
lmagna Posted September 1, 2018 #19 Posted September 1, 2018 Nice work and amazing progress for not having time available. CDW, John Allen, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
GrandpaPhil Posted September 3, 2018 Author #20 Posted September 3, 2018 Red piping on the wings mtaylor, russ, pjofc4 and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 4, 2018 Author #21 Posted September 4, 2018 Finished it. I used model ship eyebolts to secure the HF antenna. Overall, I’m happy with how it turned out. Now to finish the Victory! Landrotten Highlander, Jim Rogers, russ and 14 others 17 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
John Allen Posted September 4, 2018 #22 Posted September 4, 2018 Very very nice. GrandpaPhil, thibaultron, Altduck and 6 others 9 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co.
GrandpaPhil Posted September 4, 2018 Author #23 Posted September 4, 2018 Thank you very much! mtaylor, Canute, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
mtaylor Posted September 4, 2018 #24 Posted September 4, 2018 Beautiful. I built that plane a long time ago and loved seeing the real one in person at the AF Museum when I lived in Dayton. CDW, Canute, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GrandpaPhil Posted September 4, 2018 Author #25 Posted September 4, 2018 Thank you very much! I visited the one in Dayton last winter. Very cool plane. Very cool concept. popeye the sailor, mtaylor, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
russ Posted September 4, 2018 #26 Posted September 4, 2018 I remember building this model about 28 years ago if I recall correctly. This build takes me back in time a bit. Nice job on yours. Well done. Russ mtaylor, Canute, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
HIPEXEC Posted September 4, 2018 #27 Posted September 4, 2018 Great job. A friend of mine who just passed away flew the Black Widow in WW II. lmagna, Canute, CDW and 3 others 6 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
popeye the sailor Posted October 15, 2018 #28 Posted October 15, 2018 closest plane I built like this one, was the P38 Lightning awesome looking plane though......you did a great job on her GrandpaPhil, Canute, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Javlin Posted November 29, 2018 #29 Posted November 29, 2018 I knew you guys built more than ships our hands just have to be building something anything!!Nice Job! thibaultron, popeye the sailor, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote
popeye the sailor Posted January 6, 2019 #30 Posted January 6, 2019 I've been know to build anything to pass my table Canute, GrandpaPhil and thibaultron 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
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