Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale

[Old Collingwood]

Just done a rough  sketch of the lid/pully device assembly  - The idea is to use a piece of  stock wood,  then I will add a small piece of square stock at the end (slightly wider)  then I will drill a hole in the center just wide enough to take some rope (same thickness as I used on the lids) the rope will be glued in the when set I will drill a small hole through the hull, then push and glue the assembly - to allow a certain amount sticking out, then when set the rope will be joined to the rope on the lid.

Only have to do this Ten times.

 

Heres my diagram  -

[Old Collingwood]

7 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

where are the rope that open them?  on most early ships, the ropes are tied along the spar deck railings  {then I got a brain storm........look at the instructions}    they are tied to poles that jut out from the hull above them.  even though you choose to have the ports closed......you'll still need to rig them.   I do find it odd though.......do the sailors hang from the railings to open the ports?   strange design 

On the actual ship - the beams sticking out are hollow and they  have a pulley  at the end, the rope comes up from the lid  past over the pulley then through the beam  and into the inside of the hull, where it would be pulled/let go to open/close the lids.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

We all love a plan, looking good, but strange lid port set up

[Old Collingwood]

6 minutes ago, Kevin said:

We all love a plan, looking good, but strange lid port set up

Indeed mate,  but guess pirates like to keep things quick and simple - hence the single rope.

 

OC.

[CDW]

Maybe since the 1:1 ship is a fictional movie prop, not an historical sailing vessel replica, certain artistic liberties are taken to simplify the construction of it yet still look authentic to a certain degree for the average person/movie enthusiast. In that case, functional gun ports would not be an issue that would warrant excessive spending to achieve.

Let's face it, the average person is not well informed at all on early sailing vessels. A reasonable facsimile is good enough for a Disney pirate flick. Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow is ample evidence of that.

[Kevin]

3 minutes ago, CDW said:

Maybe since the 1:1 ship is a fictional movie prop, not an historical sailing vessel replica, certain artistic liberties are taken to simplify the construction of it yet still look authentic to a certain degree for the average person/movie enthusiast. In that case, functional gun ports would not be an issue that would warrant excessive spending to achieve.

Let's face it, the average person is not well informed at all on early sailing vessels. A reasonable facsimile is good enough for a Disney pirate flick. Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow is ample evidence of that.

lol - point taken

[Old Collingwood]

38 minutes ago, Wallace said:

By the time you get to the 10th one you should be good at it  

 

Indeed - its like a never ending cycle where we are always improving and never fully satisfied.

 

OC.

[EJ_L]

It may be a simple design but, it looks like a maintenance nightmare. Storms and gunfire probably made replacing these a constant chore. Still, they will make for a cool detail that is not often seen on models.

[Old Collingwood]

Here is a close up pick of the actual ship  off the net  - shows the lid devices.

 

OC.

[mtaylor]

1 hour ago, CDW said:

Maybe since the 1:1 ship is a fictional movie prop, not an historical sailing vessel replica, certain artistic liberties are taken to simplify the construction of it yet still look authentic to a certain degree for the average person/movie enthusiast. In that case, functional gun ports would not be an issue that would warrant excessive spending to achieve.

Let's face it, the average person is not well informed at all on early sailing vessels. A reasonable facsimile is good enough for a Disney pirate flick. Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow is ample evidence of that.

 

Indeed, there are several things that make us modelers scratch our heads... the capstan with the main mast coming out of the center of it comes to mind.   Ah... movie magic.... 

[CDW]

5 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

 

Indeed, there are several things that make us modelers scratch our heads... the capstan with the main mast coming out of the center of it comes to mind.   Ah... movie magic.... 

But I must admit, I enjoyed the whole Pirates of the Caribbean series as much or more than anything else I have seen for a long time. Very entertaining, light hearted, and the musical scores were great!

[Old Collingwood]

6 hours ago, Wallace said:

Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow certainly was a "loveable" pirate. 

Yep,    alas he wont be cast in future films  - not sure why?

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

So - the work begins on the lid lifting devices  consisting of a piece of 1x1mm  with a piece glued onto the end, then a fine drill in the center of the end, and some rope(thread) glued into this,   two done  16 to go.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Right then  - four assembled and fitted.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

33 minutes ago, Wallace said:

We had a word for something like this back when I was a youngster - "finnicky". It is a word I probably haven't used since then but it sprang instantly to mind when I saw this

 

Its certainly best doing it in small sections  to break up the  repetition,   I have the remaining five built and drilled  waiting on the ropes to be glued in place  - tomorrow.

Then the same for the opposite side.

 

OC.

[cog]

7 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Then the same for the opposite side.

Doing both sides!!!!!!!?

 

Very nice OC. will you shape the rope in a roundish way with pva?

[Old Collingwood]

9 hours ago, cog said:

Doing both sides!!!!!!!?

 

Very nice OC. will you shape the rope in a roundish way with pva?

Just tying it where the rope and the loop meet.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

More work today  - painting the first of the lid lifting tackle  - then I fitted the remaining five  - next off  tie them and add a bit of paint.

 

Then it will be on to the other side.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Good day all,      Thank You sincerely  for all the  likes it certainly helps,     anyway  back on the pearl today  - nothing of  any significant interest,  I constructed the  nine rope lifting beams for the other side - just a length of 1x1mm  with a small block glued onto the ends, just need them to set now before drilling a hole in the ends.

 

No pics as  its just the same as previous pics.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

27 minutes ago, Wallace said:

It is just as nice to read about your progress as it is to see the images O.C. Because of the very cold weather here I too will be ensconced in the shipyard throughout the day. 

Thank you for your kind words wallace.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

More work today  -  I cleaned up the lifting beams  then drilled a hole in the center/top of each, then I cut nine lengths of rope and stiffened the ends with some pva, then I glued the ropes in place as before.

 

Just a couple of pics -

 

OC.

[cog]

small steps will get you there. I'm always surprised at the smaller the item the more work it needs ...

[Old Collingwood]

6 minutes ago, cog said:

small steps will get you there. I'm always surprised at the smaller the item the more work it needs ...

Indeed,  also an element of monotony  doesn't help.

 

OC.

[cog]

13 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

an element of monotony  doesn't help.

Thought you were a big fan of those ... you do them so extraodinairy well Now you've got patience as virtue too

[Old Collingwood]

8 hours ago, cog said:

Thought you were a big fan of those ... you do them so extraodinairy well Now you've got patience as virtue too

Wait till I get started on the standing rigging  and  shrouds  - that will test my patience...........and everyone elses.😧

 

OC.

[Piet]

Keep on plug'n OC, I also like to see the little things taking shape.  Just have fun.

 

Cheers,

[Old Collingwood]

1 hour ago, Piet said:

Keep on plug'n OC, I also like to see the little things taking shape.  Just have fun.

 

Cheers,

Thank you for looking in piet,    your words of encouragement help no end.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

i had the same issue of inserting all the sheaths above the gunports, and then securing the lanyards, it took me weeks, then i did them all again, because i i got better it showed up on the earlier ones, hence i vowed never to do another first rate again

 

and then what happens, Chris Watton, is designing new ships, so maybe there will be another one in the distant future, after the St Nectan

[Old Collingwood]

11 minutes ago, Kevin said:

i had the same issue of inserting all the sheaths above the gunports, and then securing the lanyards, it took me weeks, then i did them all again, because i i got better it showed up on the earlier ones, hence i vowed never to do another first rate again

 

and then what happens, Chris Watton, is designing new ships, so maybe there will be another one in the distant future, after the St Nectan

Mind you - not far to go now,  after I fit those and attach the ropes/paint them,   I can then move onto the anchors - im looking forward to doing the anchors.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

ooooooooooooh i forgot i have lots of anchors to do, at least 6