GrandpaPhil Posted April 7, 2019 Author #211 Posted April 7, 2019 I finished and installed the foremast pin-rails. The bow platform test fitted successfully. I measured off and cut out the bowsprit pin-rail. I also made the cap for the bowsprit. I’m going to make the dolphin striker, jib boom and flying jib here shortly. The original masting dimensions are on Plate 3 across from page 236 of The Search For Speed Under Sail. I’m using those for my dimensions. Jond, rafine, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 8, 2019 Author #212 Posted April 8, 2019 I just installed the bow platform, the bow pin-rail and the chain-plates. I also put a strip of card over the channels to hold them in place. This means that the hull is done, except for some minor touch ups and a little bit of paint work. I’m pretty excited because I’ve never scratch built a model ship before. Making the hull is the difficult part for me. I’ve never really had any difficulty once I got to the point of fitting out the hull. Although, it’s a different ballgame when you have to make your own fittings. This has been a lot of fun. mtaylor, Omega1234, Jond and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Ab Hoving Posted April 8, 2019 #213 Posted April 8, 2019 Hi Phil, I never saw this thread until your question about mast tops came in yesterday. Congratulations with your build. I'm proud to read that I have inspired you to give paper as the main material a try. You did not make it easy for yourself, choosing a sharp ship with very stretched lines. As you can see on several places the hull looks a bit wobbly. Next time you build a ship like this I advise you to use some extra materials to avoid dents and bulbs. In this case you might consider to use some thin (2 x 2 mm) pieces of wood to support the outline of the deck over its length. Or you might consider to use plastic card to paste your deck-planks on. These materials might help to get sharper hull lines and flatter decks. Don't feel a prisoner of the material you chose. Not everything in a paper model needs to be made out of paper. I want to compliment you on your detailing. A stunning result for a first try. I'm sure your next paper model will benefit a lot from what you have learned in this build. You are an example of a model builder who is open for new challenges, prepared to take risks and keeps improving his skills. Good luck with this build. Ab CDW, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted April 8, 2019 Author #214 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Thank you, much appreciated! Next time I do this, among my lessons learned is that I’m going to use 1/16th inch basswood for my underdecking to prevent the waves that are in the deck. I’m also going to reinforce the bulkheads better to prevent the warping that occurred. I discovered that the entire hull has a slight twist in it, after I had painted it. I started putting large books on drying pieces after that. I made a mistake in my tracing of the bulkheads related to the spacing of the midships frames, in part because of the spine of the book, that I did not discover until after I had covered the hull, which caused the bulges around midships. I’m also going to try and not rescale images, from multiple sources, with multiple scales unless I am drawing up my own complete set of plans, which I did not do for this build. That caused me some problems as well. I’ve learned a lot on this build. It’s been a learning curve, but it’s been a lot of fun. Edited April 8, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Omega1234, FriedClams, tkay11 and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 8, 2019 Author #215 Posted April 8, 2019 The hull is done. The base is done. I made the parts for the foremast. I made the main mast, itself, I still have to make the main top mast. I made the parts for the bowsprit, including jib boom, flying jib and spritsail yard. I am waiting on the mast tops and caps to dry so I can laminate them onto another piece of cardstock, then I will assemble the masts, paint them and install them. I measured it out, the model will be about 36” long by about 24” tall and 16” wide, with studding sails run out. Valeriy V, mtaylor, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 9, 2019 Author #216 Posted April 9, 2019 Bowsprit is assembled! Time to install it, and do the gammoning! mtaylor, Omega1234, rafine and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 9, 2019 Author #217 Posted April 9, 2019 Discovered that I made it wrong. Disassembled the bowsprit. Oh well, that’s how you learn, lol. FriedClams, mtaylor and tkay11 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 11, 2019 Author #218 Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) I remade the bowsprit and assembled both masts. Next step is painting everything and reinstalling the flying jib boom. Edited April 11, 2019 by GrandpaPhil mtaylor, Valeriy V, Omega1234 and 6 others 9 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 12, 2019 Author #219 Posted April 12, 2019 Thank you, Mark! Much appreciated! mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 16, 2019 Author #220 Posted April 16, 2019 I got some work done on the Prince de Neufchatel today. 😃 I made some more cleats for the masts and the main boom. I installed the ones for the masts (I haven’t made the main boom yet). I also permanently installed and rigged the bowsprit. FriedClams, Valeriy V, CDW and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CDW Posted April 16, 2019 #221 Posted April 16, 2019 I sure do admire the way you took on this difficult project Phil, and the work you have done on it. FriedClams and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
GrandpaPhil Posted April 16, 2019 Author #222 Posted April 16, 2019 14 hours ago, CDW said: I sure do admire the way you took on this difficult project Phil, and the work you have done on it. Thank you very much! Much appreciated! mtaylor and CDW 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
KeithAug Posted April 16, 2019 #223 Posted April 16, 2019 An interesting subject Phil - and so full of character. mtaylor and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
GrandpaPhil Posted April 22, 2019 Author #224 Posted April 22, 2019 Thanks for all the comments and the likes! I am making progress again. I’ve been attaching deck blocks and more cleats to belay to. The next step is to finish painting the masts and the installed rigging fittings. mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 25, 2019 Author #225 Posted April 25, 2019 We’ve got masts and we’ve got the start of some stays! I need to make a few more double blocks before I continue. Next, I will install some shrouds and some backstays. Then I get to install some ratlines! Jond, mtaylor, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Omega1234 Posted April 27, 2019 #226 Posted April 27, 2019 Hi Phil I’ve finally caught up with your ship. Man, you’ve done a lot of work since I last looked in. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again...I love the way you just get in there and do it. The result is lots of detail, lots of intricate parts being fashioned and most of all, 18 really impressive carronades/cannons. Now, there’s just the masting and rigging.... Well done! Cheers. Patrick GrandpaPhil and FriedClams 2 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
GrandpaPhil Posted April 29, 2019 Author #227 Posted April 29, 2019 Thanks for all the comments and the likes! I’ve been having a lot of fun with this build! It’s been a learning curve, but I’ve been building up my skill set and I’ve gotten a lot better than I was when I started! I’ll be ready to get back to the Victory when I finish, and finish it. mtaylor and FriedClams 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 29, 2019 Author #228 Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) My progress on the Prince de Neufchatel for the weekend: 10 double sheave rigging blocks. Edited April 29, 2019 by GrandpaPhil tadheus, EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 2, 2019 Author #229 Posted May 2, 2019 I snuck some time in on the model tonight. I finished the forestays: Next time, I’ll hopefully have some pictures of shrouds, rat lines and back stays. CDW, Jond and mtaylor 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CPDDET Posted May 2, 2019 #230 Posted May 2, 2019 Your progress on these ships just amazes me. Don't know where you find the time. But your progress inspires me to spend more time on mine. GrandpaPhil, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
GrandpaPhil Posted May 3, 2019 Author #231 Posted May 3, 2019 16 hours ago, CPDDET said: Your progress on these ships just amazes me. Don't know where you find the time. But your progress inspires me to spend more time on mine. Thank you! I make time at least one day per weekend (more if we have nothing else going on) to spend a significant amount of time on the model. I’m looking forward to seeing progress on your Bluenose. It’s coming along nicely. FriedClams and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 4, 2019 Author #232 Posted May 4, 2019 Installing shrouds. I’m using the wire method to space out my deadeyes. mtaylor, Jond, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 4, 2019 Author #233 Posted May 4, 2019 First set of shrouds in and first set of ratlines started. FriedClams, tadheus, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 5, 2019 Author #234 Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) The lower foremast ratlines on the starboard side are on. I know that people usually hate ratlines. It’s always just been part of the process for me. I just sit down and tie them on. I use Elmer’s glue to secure the knots. The hardest part of the rigging, for me, is making all of the deadeyes on the shrouds and backstays line up right. If you look at my first ship models, the Sultana and a Mamoli Endeavour, my deadeyes are all over the place. I’ve finally been getting the spacing issues figured out. I am using a piece of steel wire to set the distance between the deadeyes. Edited May 5, 2019 by GrandpaPhil mtaylor, tadheus, Jond and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 5, 2019 Author #235 Posted May 5, 2019 Port side foremast ratlines are on: Omega1234, FriedClams, Jond and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 5, 2019 Author #236 Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) Lol, yep! Edited May 5, 2019 by GrandpaPhil mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 6, 2019 Author #237 Posted May 6, 2019 Main lower shrouds are in place. I’ll start on the ratlines next time. Then I’ll install the upper shrouds. The fore top mast shrouds also get ratlines. After that comes all of the backstays. mtaylor, Omega1234, tadheus and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 11, 2019 Author #238 Posted May 11, 2019 I finally had time to work on the model today. I’m about 75% complete with the main mast ratlines. I’ll post pictures once they’re done. josh44 and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 11, 2019 Author #239 Posted May 11, 2019 Lower ratlines are in. Time to make the sheer poles and the upper shrouds/ratlines mtaylor, prutser and Omega1234 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted May 12, 2019 Author #240 Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Sheer poles are in place. Upper Main Shrouds are installed. Time to make the Top Shrouds and Top Gallant Shrouds on the Foremast. Edited May 12, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Omega1234, archjofo, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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