Bob Portsmouth Posted April 4, 2020 #211 Posted April 4, 2020 I can confirm that is Speedy, the same draft as "Flirt" Quote
chris watton Posted April 4, 2020 #212 Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Here is a line drawing taken from Speedy designs, please note the gun ports, they are the same for the pre-cut patterns, as they are taken from the pre-cut patterns. They are the same as the original Admiralty draft. I am assuming optical illusions come into play with some pics. They are all 90 degrees to the keel, vertically, but almost follow the sheer, but not quite, as per the original plans. ETA, Just included the actual laser cut patterns for the gun port parts Edited April 4, 2020 by chris watton GrandpaPhil, hwe, DelF and 2 others 5 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook
glbarlow Posted April 4, 2020 #213 Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) I think we all need more to do. Edited April 4, 2020 by glbarlow Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
glbarlow Posted April 7, 2020 #214 Posted April 7, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 10:38 AM, Bob Portsmouth said: As an adviser on other forums I'd like to see some of your work Bob, I recommend your adding links to galleries or build logs to your signature line so we can see how you do it. Gregory and Bob Portsmouth 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Bob Portsmouth Posted April 7, 2020 #215 Posted April 7, 2020 Hi Glenn, Chuck has urged me to do just that, I'll have to withdraw my finger!!! I'm moving away from RN and back to fishing sailing boats. Far too many plans!! mcpwilk and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote
Vane Posted April 9, 2020 Author #216 Posted April 9, 2020 I did a few mistakes with my coppering but i am overall happy with the result. Its the 2nd ship i do this on so i am still learning but now i feel comfortable for the next time (Diana). The kit included two sheets of copper and its plenty of metal over. These sheets are way better than the Caldercraft version so i might have to upgrade for my future builds.... JpR62, Beef Wellington, BenD and 14 others 17 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
DelF Posted April 12, 2020 #217 Posted April 12, 2020 Looks excellent - well done! Derek Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat
mcpwilk Posted April 12, 2020 #218 Posted April 12, 2020 Just a short note as a reminder that Speedy would have flown a pre 1800 Ensign, without the St Patrick's Cross. Her ensign could have been red, white or blue, depending under which Admiral she sailed. Mike Quote
Bob Portsmouth Posted April 12, 2020 #219 Posted April 12, 2020 Admiral of the Mediterranean was 1st Earl Richard Howe. I don't know the ensign but that may point you. Quote
Vane Posted April 12, 2020 Author #220 Posted April 12, 2020 I do not remember who wrote it but someone said if you see something on your model that you are not happy with you better go back and fix it because otherwise that will be the only thing you see when you look at the finished model... hwe and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted April 12, 2020 Author #221 Posted April 12, 2020 Paint or not paint...that is the question... Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil, Mr. Hornblower and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
GrandpaPhil Posted April 12, 2020 #222 Posted April 12, 2020 For me, always paint Duanelaker 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
captain_hook Posted April 12, 2020 #223 Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Vane said: I do not remember who wrote it but someone said if you see something on your model that you are not happy with you better go back and fix it because otherwise that will be the only thing you see when you look at the finished model... At this stage of build the gunports can easily be reshaped. You may use a thin strip of stainless steel as a guide. Just clamp it in the correct position, roughly shape the port and use a needle file for the last steps. The steel strip will act as a border and is hard to damage with the file. You can achieve very clean edges this way. JeffT, hwe, Richard44 and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HM Brig Badger 1/48 from Caldercraft plans Le Coureur 1/48 by CAF — Completed Build: Armed Virginia Sloop 1/48 by Model Shipways / Gallery HM Cutter Sherbourne 1/64 by Caldercraft / Gallery
glbarlow Posted April 13, 2020 #224 Posted April 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, captain_hook said: ou are not happy with you better go back and fix it Yeah, you're going to want to fix that. Careful and light application of your #11 blade and flat file should take care of it. Once painted red it will be lost to the eye with the completed model. Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Vane Posted July 6, 2020 Author #225 Posted July 6, 2020 After some time off from my Speedy, I have started to work on the tiny parts. Some are really difficult and perhaps not of the best quality (!) but I think it mostly depends on outsourced lasercutting. I got one of the first kits and looking at the upgrades and what Chris have done with his own lasermachine I think they are way better now. I decided to plint these black but i might do a few of my own in boxwood to match the colours. Most of the precut stuff are great and make the work much easier. I also start to be friends with my airbrush but still have alot to learn. I still havent decided about rigging the canons. They are really small so it will require some hard work. VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway, DelF and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 10, 2020 Author #226 Posted July 10, 2020 Finally a couple of Proxxon tools to complete my workshop... hope things will speed up now! hwe, egkb, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
James H Posted July 10, 2020 #227 Posted July 10, 2020 I want one of those lathes too, with the extension bed. Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
Glenn-UK Posted July 10, 2020 #228 Posted July 10, 2020 I have the proxon lathe and it has been an invaluable tool for production of masts, yards, booms, etc. Quote Glenn (UK)
glbarlow Posted July 10, 2020 #229 Posted July 10, 2020 I’ll be interested in your opinion on the lathe. I’ve just used my drill to turn wood all these years. I’ve got to learn how to use the mill I just bought before any new toys, I mean tools. Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Vane Posted July 18, 2020 Author #230 Posted July 18, 2020 The new Proxxon lathe is great! It takes a while to get use to but its really nice and will speed things up. chris watton, BenD, VTHokiEE and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
James H Posted July 18, 2020 #231 Posted July 18, 2020 I must get that lathe, but want it with the bed extension. Nice to see Speedy get the treatment Ronald-V and chris watton 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
glbarlow Posted July 18, 2020 #232 Posted July 18, 2020 Had to decide between a mill and a lathe...now I want both😬 Ronald-V and chris watton 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Wahka_est Posted July 18, 2020 #233 Posted July 18, 2020 Welcome from Estonia. Really superb build! I just got same workshop setup with Proxxon tools as they had -20% summer sale plus addition vat off(lathe, disk sander, ks230 saw, delta sander). Havent tried all them out yet but disksander itself is gift from god compared to hand sanding.... I was also looking extension for lathe but i only saw that in Australia. Any idea where to het it in EU? chris watton 1 Quote
Vane Posted July 18, 2020 Author #234 Posted July 18, 2020 The sander is the tool I use the most. Not sure where you can get the extension, but it has a special construction where you place the dovel through a hole so you can put long pieces into the lathe and work on its end. Its not like the normal lathe where you squeeze the dovel from end to end. chris watton 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 23, 2020 Author #235 Posted July 23, 2020 Todays miniproject: assembling the plexiglas cradle. I really like the style of this cradle, i will probably design similar for my Caldercraft kits also. The photo etched plate look amazing! DelF, chris watton, ccoyle and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 27, 2020 Author #236 Posted July 27, 2020 The Proxxon lathe really delivered! A couple of evenings and now all dovels have been sanded down to the right dimension. I also tested putting up the masts and suddenly she got way bigger. This will become a very beautiful ship! Hmmm... I am not sure where the rest of these dovels is suppose to be mounted on the ship... ? i feel like after IKEA and you dont have a clue if the leftover screws are extra or vital to the furniture... 😛 Ryland Craze, DelF, Edwardkenway and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted August 4, 2020 Author #237 Posted August 4, 2020 14 small guns ready to be rigged! So should i do this the hard or the easy way??? Just need some minor touch up of paint... JpR62, Beef Wellington, DelF and 9 others 12 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
glbarlow Posted August 4, 2020 #238 Posted August 4, 2020 The better way - you'll not like it later if you don't. I expect the same encouragement when I'm faltering on rigging Flirt 🙂 Ronald-V, Edwardkenway and DelF 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
glbarlow Posted August 4, 2020 #239 Posted August 4, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 2:21 PM, Vane said: Proxxon lathe really delivered Dang it, I may have to buy another tool. Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Vane Posted August 5, 2020 Author #240 Posted August 5, 2020 Masts and yards goes so much more faster! Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
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