thegrindre Posted June 14, 2020 Share #1 Posted June 14, 2020 "HI" That said, I hope these forums are what they seem to be, very helpful and informative for us greenhorns. I've been lurking here a few days now and like what I've seen so far. I've never built a wooden boat before and The African Queen movie made me fall in love with the steam launch that Bogart and Hepburn sailed down the river in. Now retired, I have tons of time on my hands and have watched that movie a good half dozen times or more already. I searched the net for a model of that boat and found a couple versions of it so bought the Billing Boats version. Due here last Friday, I've found that it hasn't even left Europe yet. That's OK... I can wait... Meanwhile, I've also fallen in love with live steam. I've bid on a boiler on ebay and won! The engine I want is a bit steep but I can save up for it. The only issue I have here is that I know very little about steam. Anyway, I welcome any and all the advice and help I can get from you guys. Thanks, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, ccoyle and 1 other 4 Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 14, 2020 Share #2 Posted June 14, 2020 Welcome, Rick! I know nothing of live steam myself, so hopefully someone else here will be able to give you some pointers. Cheers! mtaylor 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted June 14, 2020 Share #3 Posted June 14, 2020 evening mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 15, 2020 Share #4 Posted June 15, 2020 Welcome to MSW, Rick. I have seen a few live steam models in the Scratch area but I'm not sure how many there were or even if they were finished. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 15, 2020 Share #5 Posted June 15, 2020 Hello Rick, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted June 15, 2020 Share #6 Posted June 15, 2020 Welcome! Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegrindre Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted June 15, 2020 Thanks fellas. I'll start a construction thread when my 'toy' arrives. 🙂 mtaylor 1 Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaddoc Posted June 15, 2020 Share #8 Posted June 15, 2020 Welcome Rick! Have fun building your boat. mtaylor 1 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Hercules Steam Tugboat - scratch build from half model lines Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted June 15, 2020 Share #9 Posted June 15, 2020 Welcome Rick. MSW is a great forum. You’ll get whatever help, advice, etc. you need from individuals who know the craft. Not sure about live steam. Good sailing...Moab mtaylor 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjay Posted June 15, 2020 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2020 thegrindre and mtaylor 2 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted June 19, 2020 Share #11 Posted June 19, 2020 Hi Rick, I love the idea of your building a model of the African Queen (one of my favourite movies, where Bogart got to show he could play something other than a "tough guy"). You might get some help from these threads: and Regarding the live steam, is it your plan to install it in the model? The only problem I can foresee with that (apart from the whole thing of learning how to use live steam without blowing yourself up!) would be whether the relative sizes of the vessel and the engine/boiler would work together. Still, that's all part of the learning process, I suppose. mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegrindre Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted June 19, 2020 A big THANK YOU, sir. 🙂 Due a week ago but I'm afraid it's still hung up in Europe. Louie da fly and mtaylor 2 Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 20, 2020 Share #13 Posted June 20, 2020 Welcome to the forum Rick. Please do start a build log once your kit arrives - this one is on my “bucket list”. mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted June 20, 2020 Share #14 Posted June 20, 2020 And when you start your model, please do start a build log. Partly because I love looking at photos of builds, partly because it's the best way to get feedback, help, advice and encouragement. But mostly because I like looking at the pictures . . . mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 007 Posted June 22, 2020 Share #15 Posted June 22, 2020 Hi Rick, I have always wanted to build a working a working R/C steam powered vessel so I will happily follow your build when your new toys arrive. Will it need some sort of permit or testing before you can use it? I know a few model steam train guys here in New Zealand have to have their trains certified and tested for safety purposes. Not sure if that is related to using in public or taking the public. Just curious is all. Good luck! mtaylor 1 Quote CURRENT BUILD HMS Bounty’s Jolly Boat - AL - FINISHED HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegrindre Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted June 22, 2020 Just checked the status of my African Queen model and it's sitting in New York!!! It's almost here! YeeHaa!!! ccoyle and mtaylor 2 Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted June 22, 2020 Share #17 Posted June 22, 2020 Welcome to the best, busiest and most helpful model ship site around. Loads of knowledge, content and friendly souls here to share your work with and learn along with the rest of us. mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted June 22, 2020 Share #18 Posted June 22, 2020 Welcome to MSW, be interesting to watch this one, have fun and really hope you get it steaming!! mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted June 23, 2020 Share #19 Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 11:33 PM, thegrindre said: "HI" That said, I hope these forums are what they seem to be, very helpful and informative for us greenhorns. I've been lurking here a few days now and like what I've seen so far. Hi, They really are! Oh, and welcome from across the Pond Bob mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted June 23, 2020 Share #20 Posted June 23, 2020 Greetings, And mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegrindre Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted July 1, 2020 Hi all, Well, I'm broken hearted. My African Queen arrived today but the box looked as if a truck ran over it... TWICE! I could see the innards and they looked damaged too. The postman wanted my signature for the box and I asked him if I had too sign. He said, if it was his package, he'd refuse it cuz of all the damage. So I did... Now, we'll see how it goes. I hope I'm not out $250. Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardG Posted July 1, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 1, 2020 Well I can't possibly do a "like" on that post. However, welcome! Hopefully we'll see a build log of the African Queen soon. All the best. ccoyle, thegrindre and mtaylor 3 Quote Richard Current Build: Early 19th Century US Revenue Cutter (Artesania Latina "Dallas" - messed about) Completed Build: Yakatabune - Japanese - Woody Joe mini Member: Nautical Research Guild & Midwest Model Shipwrights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, thegrindre said: Well, I'm broken hearted. My African Queen arrived today but the box looked as if a truck ran over it... TWICE! Yikes! I hope you're not out your money. mtaylor and thegrindre 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted July 16, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 16, 2020 That's very bad news. I hope they have a replacement policy in a case like this. mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegrindre Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted July 20, 2020 Well, it's been 19 days since I refused the damaged package and I have yet to heard from the seller. ebay emailed me to say that if they don't hear back from the seller by the 21st they'll have to close my case and I'll loose my $250. (I'm sure glad the government gave me that $1200 a couple weeks ago. So, I'm not really out anything really.) Quote a.k.a. Rick 'Don't fry bacon in the nude' Current Build: Billing Boats, S/L Livingstone, a.k.a. African Queen (When it arrives that is) Next Up: La Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted July 20, 2020 Share #26 Posted July 20, 2020 Not good, though. It's not right that you don't have any recourse if they don't replace it. ccoyle, mtaylor and thegrindre 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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