Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 - by Kevin - July 2021 - finished March 2022

[Kevin]

5 hours ago, Canute said:

Stagecoach looking good, Kevin

 

And the dollhouses look good, too, What scale are they? I have a buddy here who used to build upscale furniture for these houses in I think 1/12 scale. He used the furniture catalogs from a home named Winterthur, outside Philadelphia, PA. Built clocks, dining room sets; he's was prolific with the furniture.

good morning, its all 1/12, i personally dont get involved in the internal side of things, i will build the kits up if asked and sort the electrics out,

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

4 wheels on my wagon (well not quite on but complete), tonight i made the outer wheel bandings

the chassis which was stripped down yesterday, was primed and now has a new coat on, pin strips well complete it 

at present i am rebuilding it, looks better than before, but even further removed from what it should look like

 

 

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

the chassis continues, a lot more banding has gone in, and whilst brass at present i may take it to black before completion

 

the suspension was put back on and then had a bit of fun with the through braces, which were made from leather straps, the kits asks you yo make them from wooden strips, i went my own way and used face mask elastic strapping, and clamped them in place with brass strips, the height above the chassis may be to high but no weight on there yet

 

the elastic was coloured using a Flory black wash

 

[Old Collingwood]

That is looking so nice Kevin.

 

OC.

[yvesvidal]

I love the suspension of the cabin 🙂 

 

Yves

[wefalck]

Take your sea-sickness pills - they had no dampening elements (shock absorbers)

[Egilman]

Just a question Kevin, I think your idea of using elastic for the leather suspension gives a very real action to the suspension... have you figured a way to deal with the rubber in those elastics when it dries out and breaks? My suggestion, while you are at this point, is to thread a thin brass wire or two through each elastic, so when the rubber dries out and breaks, the nylon covering and wire will hold them together and the dead rubber will serve as a filler to let them keep their shape?

 

I would hate to see all that beautiful work fail in a few years...

[popeye the sailor]

good to see your back working on the coach!     the chassis and wheels look very good........a very cheerful color.  so when the occupants are ticked off by the erratic ride.....just stop and tell 'em to look at the chassis      {look at the flowers Lizzie}!

 

it might not be that dramatic.......what he's using is woven with fabric.  it will tend to sag over time,  but it will take longer to completely fail.

[Kevin]

21 hours ago, Egilman said:

Just a question Kevin, I think your idea of using elastic for the leather suspension gives a very real action to the suspension... have you figured a way to deal with the rubber in those elastics when it dries out and breaks? My suggestion, while you are at this point, is to thread a thin brass wire or two through each elastic, so when the rubber dries out and breaks, the nylon covering and wire will hold them together and the dead rubber will serve as a filler to let them keep their shape?

 

I would hate to see all that beautiful work fail in a few years...

i had considered putting something under the coach to take the weight, but i like the wire idea

 

17 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

good to see your back working on the coach!     the chassis and wheels look very good........a very cheerful color.  so when the occupants are ticked off by the erratic ride.....just stop and tell 'em to look at the chassis      {look at the flowers Lizzie}!

 

it might not be that dramatic.......what he's using is woven with fabric.  it will tend to sag over time,  but it will take longer to completely fail.

thanks popeye

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

thank you for comments and likes

the coach looked awful (in my eyes, so i decided to do something about it

removed all door and widow frames and the top panelling between the windows, as that never looked right from day one, 

fine grade sandpaper and took the upper coats of varnish off, washed down and then a varnish 50/50 white spirit wash applied 

the door frames and windows are now fitted on one side 

 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Kevin

[bruce d]

You nailed it.

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

most of the main coach body work is done now, a few pretty strips still to be added

i may have to rethink the suspension straps, they are very springy and quite saggy

the door hinges are on well the rebates are done  (they will not be opening) 

i used a bit of tape to hold the drivers cab in position, the glue in the coach is to offset the front weight

nothing is fixed yet

Edited March 6, 2022 by Kevin

[Egilman]

1 hour ago, Kevin said:

i may have to rethink the suspension straps, they are very springy and quite saggy

Hi Kevin, if you do decide to replace them, the 1946 Popular Mechanics Overland Stage model, (1/12th scale scratchbuilt) recommended using leather shoelaces, you can get them wide enough (at least you could back in '48) and one pair is more than long enough... They would have to be shaved for thickness down to the tanned side and overlapped.. the shackles would fit in their appropriate places so it would look the same and the ends in the middle where they meet put on the top side so they are hidden next to the coach body...

 

It looks natural and real when done... (you can also bury the wire support inside them as well just in case) The leather will accept hide glue or white glue and be very secure...

 

The coach work is brilliant the carriage work is excellent, it's going to be a real masterpiece when done...

Edited March 6, 2022 by Egilman

[bruce d]

3 hours ago, Kevin said:

i may have to rethink the suspension straps, they are very springy and quite saggy

I have just been looking at a faux-leather jacket. It is made of a black vinyl about 1mm thick and it probably would do for the suspension without any issues of fading or weakening with age.  (The Admiral would not be sympathetic to any request to slice a bit off so I can only suggest, not supply!)  Haven't checked but I'm pretty sure some sunglass cases are made of similar stuff, hope this helps.

It is looking good.

 

Bruce

[mtaylor]

Hmm.... need to stiffen it up a bit then.   Just musing here, would thin CA brushed on one side and the coated with flat clear or flat shellac work?  The catch is that it would prevent all movement and possibly be somewhat fragile.

[Kevin]

thank you for the comments, i will look at the shoelace and leather ideas

mark i feel i would run into all sorts of problems and get very messy doing that, i had to cut a piece of wood of the dog yesterday and that was just with wood glue lol

[Kevin]

good afternoon everyone

 

put some go faster stripes on, as i bring this side to completion

Edited March 7, 2022 by Kevin

[Old Collingwood]

That is looking so nice  Kevin, the wood detailing is really sharp  - and the varnish makes it  Pop.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

5 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

That is looking so nice  Kevin, the wood detailing is really sharp  - and the varnish makes it  Pop.

 

OC.

Thank you OC, i was wondering where you were, you both ok?

[Canute]

I'm with OC on liking the coach. The varnish reals works. 👍

[Old Collingwood]

1 hour ago, Kevin said:

Thank you OC, i was wondering where you were, you both ok?

We are Ok  mate,   im still  plodding on with my  M1  kit.

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

look'in really sweet Kevin.  you can also do a browse in your local craft stores.   you might find leather strip in rolls,  or you may be able to find bags of leather odds and ends pieces

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

thank you for comments and likes, i will get back to you 

@popeye the sailor @Canute @Old Collingwood

the great fence repair has taken me away from the build for the last few days, sorted for now, the rest can wait for warmer days

the pretty strips are done both sides now and has all had another coat of varnish

last night was spent making up one of the two mail pouches

 

the previous night doing the trunk

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Kevin

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

made up the supports to take the weight of the seats

 

started the boot area (dont actually know whats its called) which wil all be covered over

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

good day today, sun was out, so the wife was happy, dog was happy, had a visitor, first one to see me in years, other than family, even brought my new build

stagecoach boot finished, it could have been better, but looks like a covered area as intended

and the drivers area is also in position

 

[Old Collingwood]

Looking very nice  

 

OC

[Kevin]

16 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Looking very nice  

 

OC

Thank you OC

 

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

thank you for comments and likes

 

im still adding bits to this

the window blinds, rolled around a bit of 1mm brass, with some tie backs added to the large windows and doors

the wheel rims went on next, 5mm black card was used

 

still to do

replace or update the through braces

fix the brake system

put carriage onto through braces

insert lighting

put in seats and benches

driver position  rails

roof rails

hinges to doors

foot rests

PE lettering

and a general tidy up

 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Kevin

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

thank you for comments and likes

 

im still adding bits to this

the window blinds, rolled around a bit of 1mm brass, with some tie backs added to the large windows and doors

the wheel rims went on next, 5mm black card was used

 

still to do

replace or update the through braces

fix the brake system

put carriage onto through braces

insert lighting

put in seats and benches

driver position  rails

roof rails

hinges to doors

foot rests

PE lettering

and a general tidy up

 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Kevin

[Kevin]

still to do

replace or update the through braces

fix the brake system

put carriage onto through braces

insert lighting

put in seats and benches

driver position  rails

roof rails

hinges to doors

foot rests

PE lettering

and a general tidy up

 

good evening more done off the still to do list

the through braces were tightened up a lot more and now carries the weight a lot better, still more to add so it will sink a little lower

completion may be delayed as the stanchions have gone missing, i will either order some or make them

now away tomorrow so she wont be finished by the weekend