king derelict Posted May 19 Author Share #61 Posted May 19 A quiet Sunday morning and a bit more progress. I completed the turban, started the belts and cummerbund. I got brave and added the whites of the eye which I guess commits me to doing the pupils. Some touching up to do with the belts but I am happy with the face. I added a black wash to the beard and I like it. I need to decide on the next step. The guide picture shows a lot of fine detail patterns on the sash and the turban. Thin stripes of red and brown on the yellow. I'm inclining to just going with some broad stripes seeing as this is my first figure and I want to end up with something I feel okay with rather than a shameful mess. I suspect the guy that painted the figure for the guide might have done a few other figures before attempting that one I'm also looking for a bit of advice. I am wondering whether to try to use a wash to bring out the details and whether to spray a clear coat onto the figure before attempting the wash. Any thoughts or advice? I bought this rather odd-looking device after browsing the DSPIAE range. Its a hand stabiliser to try to control motion when painting detail or using tweezers on small parts. I'm still adapting to working with it and it seems very helpful. I will definitely be using it when I get brave enough to try to paint the pupils. Thanks you all for looking in and for the encouraging comments and suggestions Alan Canute, Landlubber Mike, CDW and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javlin Posted May 19 Share #62 Posted May 19 You know Alan something I read the other day about the eyelid always covers half the eye........I have always done figures as Bug Eyes then something to keep in mind...you may already know this?Keep up the good work. Old Collingwood, Canute and Egilman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted May 19 Share #63 Posted May 19 Looking good Alan, I do washes over my 28mm figures but how well I would get on doing that at this scale - I dont know, you could try a very slightly darker shade of Yellow and paint the shadows, then a slightly lighter shade of Yellow and dry brush the highlights and raised areas, I haven't actually successfully painted any larger scale figures. OC. Egilman, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted May 19 Share #64 Posted May 19 31 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: I haven't actually successfully painted any larger scale figures. Only cause you haven't tried yet brother... Doing them as small as you have been doing should make the larger ones easier I imagine... Anyway I would have a lot of confidence in your ability to paint any figure at this point... mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted May 19 Share #65 Posted May 19 43 minutes ago, Egilman said: Only cause you haven't tried yet brother... Doing them as small as you have been doing should make the larger ones easier I imagine... Anyway I would have a lot of confidence in your ability to paint any figure at this point... Thank you kindly brother. OC. Canute, Egilman and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 19 Share #66 Posted May 19 Hmm.. that hand stabiliser looks like an interesting tool. How big is it and how is it used? I've familiar with the old sign painters method using a long stick of wood but not sure how something that small would work. Old Collingwood, Egilman and Canute 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted May 19 Share #67 Posted May 19 31 minutes ago, mtaylor said: Hmm.. that hand stabiliser looks like an interesting tool. How big is it and how is it used? I've familiar with the old sign painters method using a long stick of wood but not sure how something that small would work. I think it's the same concept Mark. Old Collingwood, Egilman, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted May 19 Share #68 Posted May 19 (edited) I haven’t painted any 54mm for over a year but recently became interested in doing so between work on my current ship modeling project. Like the kit ship my figure stash has too many figures representing different interests when I bought them. My first step is to finish my collection of American Civil War figures starting with the last of several mounted Union Cavalry Men. My objective is to improve my technique before moving onto more difficult subjects. I have outfitted myself with a wet palette, mechanical paint mixer, and fingernail striping brushes should arrive soon. My first subject is the Cavalry horse. I became interested in trying the technique of “pre-shading” via posts on building a Titanic model here on MSW. The idea seems to shade selected primed areas with a dark color and then paint over with tin coats of a lighter color. The horse has large enough areas to allow airbrushing. Using it on figures might not work. Roger Edited May 19 by Roger Pellett Jack12477, Egilman, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #69 Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 3:50 PM, Javlin said: You know Alan something I read the other day about the eyelid always covers half the eye........I have always done figures as Bug Eyes then something to keep in mind...you may already know this?Keep up the good work. Thanks Jav. That is a good tip. I have seen some great painted figures with pop eyes and it turns them into cartoon figures. I would rather leave the eyes if I can't get it right. I'm still working up the courage to attempt the pupils Alan Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #70 Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 3:58 PM, Old Collingwood said: Looking good Alan, I do washes over my 28mm figures but how well I would get on doing that at this scale - I dont know, you could try a very slightly darker shade of Yellow and paint the shadows, then a slightly lighter shade of Yellow and dry brush the highlights and raised areas, I haven't actually successfully painted any larger scale figures. OC. Thank you OC, I think your suggestion is better than just using brown or black washes. I watched a couple of videos which recommended the same technique Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #71 Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, Egilman said: Only cause you haven't tried yet brother... Doing them as small as you have been doing should make the larger ones easier I imagine... Anyway I would have a lot of confidence in your ability to paint any figure at this point... Exactly; its a bigger canvas to showcase your skills Alan Jack12477, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #72 Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 5:37 PM, mtaylor said: Hmm.. that hand stabiliser looks like an interesting tool. How big is it and how is it used? I've familiar with the old sign painters method using a long stick of wood but not sure how something that small would work. Mark I think its the same sort of thing. I think it will only be useful for working over a small area but that's really what I want it for. It certainly firms up my uncertain brush when it comes to painting details. This is the guide that was inside the box Alan Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Haliburton and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #73 Posted May 21 On 5/19/2024 at 7:17 PM, Roger Pellett said: I haven’t painted any 54mm for over a year but recently became interested in doing so between work on my current ship modeling project. Like the kit ship my figure stash has too many figures representing different interests when I bought them. My first step is to finish my collection of American Civil War figures starting with the last of several mounted Union Cavalry Men. My objective is to improve my technique before moving onto more difficult subjects. I have outfitted myself with a wet palette, mechanical paint mixer, and fingernail striping brushes should arrive soon. My first subject is the Cavalry horse. I became interested in trying the technique of “pre-shading” via posts on building a Titanic model here on MSW. The idea seems to shade selected primed areas with a dark color and then paint over with tin coats of a lighter color. The horse has large enough areas to allow airbrushing. Using it on figures might not work. Roger I will be very interested to see how the shading works out on a horse. I have a Historex one in the pile which I bought to finally satisfy an early teenage want. As I remember back in the late sixties Historex recommended using oils. Alan Egilman, Canute, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted May 21 Author Share #74 Posted May 21 Yesterday was another day that tries the patience of men. I was adding some highlights to the tunic of the Yellow Boy and the glue (Gorilla Glue) I used to secure the base to the pill container being used as a handle cracked away and the figure dropped. It landed hard, the base separated and the head fell off again. I decided to try 15 minute epoxy to resecure everything and had just placed the head back and thought it was settled when it fell off AGIN. Only this time it landed smack in the little tray of mixed epoxy and got a liberal coat. I gave it a liberal spray of alcohol which I had handy and wiped it off as best I could. Of course most of the paint came off too. I switched to five minute epoxy and tried again and this time I think I got a good bond. Activity was suspended for the day to reconsider and repair the shower. I initially thought of going back and air brushing the black and white undercoats but I suspect I wasn't able to get all the epoxy off and if so then over spraying it was going to obscure details. I decided to use white primer hand brushed where needed and after it was dry, this morning, I started repainting. I may have lost some of the pre-shading on the turban but I think its good enough to carry on. I can try using different shades to deepen the folds. I see a couple of spots on the face which may need attention too then back to qorking on the details I got ambitious and started adding the basic paint to Nabopolassar. In some ways it might be a simpler figure to work on. Its a great sculpt regardless.. The tan colour is an undercoat for the gold decorations that will follow - at least that's the idea. Thanks for looking in and for the likes and comments Alan Canute, mtaylor, Roger Pellett and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted May 21 Share #75 Posted May 21 (edited) Sounds like Mr Btfsplk paid you a visit. Nice recovery ! Folds look good. Edited May 21 by Jack12477 Old Collingwood, Egilman, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted May 21 Share #76 Posted May 21 Youa re certainly being tested there Alan - keep going mate it will work out in the end. OC. Egilman, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted June 6 Share #77 Posted June 6 Really nice job Alan! I recently picked up that Dspiae stabilizer as well. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but even though I have pretty steady hands at the moment, there have been times where this would have come in handy. Canute, Jack12477, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted Thursday at 10:46 PM Author Share #78 Posted Thursday at 10:46 PM On 6/6/2024 at 10:41 AM, Landlubber Mike said: Really nice job Alan! I recently picked up that Dspiae stabilizer as well. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but even though I have pretty steady hands at the moment, there have been times where this would have come in handy. Thank you Mike, DSPIAE products seem to be well made generally. I've bought a few of their tools and like the quality. I'm still learning to use the hand rest but its definitely a help with the miniature figure painting. I think it might help me place small PE parts too. Alan mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted Thursday at 10:59 PM Author Share #79 Posted Thursday at 10:59 PM It seems a long time since my last post. Life beyond the model work bench has kept me otherwise occupied. Some good and some not so wonderful \Work out at the test stand got rather frenetic with some high risk testing which ended as these things do - somewhat prematurely. That finishes my contract to support so my time is back to being largely under my control again. My cousin from North Wales visited for two weeks after Memorial Day. She chose her dates well. It sounded like she missed two weeks of rain in Wales and we had two weeks of sunshine. Admittedly a bit hot but the sea was clear enough for snorkelling and she went home with the requisite tan. I felt rather unwell driving home after dropping her off at the airport and found I had Covid again. The symptoms cleared up quite quickly this time but its taken ages to get over the tiredness and the lack of interest in doing anything remotely constructive. Today I finally found some momentum and made a start on the flesh tones on Nabopolassar. I put the basic shades down and managed to work around the eyes. I need a few lighter shades to highlight and some darker parts. The lips need to be darkened and then hair and beard etc. The nail art brushes are a great help for the small details and seem to hold their shape well Thanks for looking in and likes and comments. Its good to finally be back Alan mtaylor, Egilman, Jack12477 and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted Thursday at 11:08 PM Share #80 Posted Thursday at 11:08 PM Looking appropriately foreboding! Nice work on face. Sorry about Covid, I've had it twice since being vaccinated and boosted. 😠 mtaylor and Egilman 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted Friday at 06:45 AM Share #81 Posted Friday at 06:45 AM 7 hours ago, king derelict said: It seems a long time since my last post. Life beyond the model work bench has kept me otherwise occupied. Some good and some not so wonderful \Work out at the test stand got rather frenetic with some high risk testing which ended as these things do - somewhat prematurely. That finishes my contract to support so my time is back to being largely under my control again. My cousin from North Wales visited for two weeks after Memorial Day. She chose her dates well. It sounded like she missed two weeks of rain in Wales and we had two weeks of sunshine. Admittedly a bit hot but the sea was clear enough for snorkelling and she went home with the requisite tan. I felt rather unwell driving home after dropping her off at the airport and found I had Covid again. The symptoms cleared up quite quickly this time but its taken ages to get over the tiredness and the lack of interest in doing anything remotely constructive. Today I finally found some momentum and made a start on the flesh tones on Nabopolassar. I put the basic shades down and managed to work around the eyes. I need a few lighter shades to highlight and some darker parts. The lips need to be darkened and then hair and beard etc. The nail art brushes are a great help for the small details and seem to hold their shape well Thanks for looking in and likes and comments. Its good to finally be back Alan catching Looking really good Alan, I think figure work is all in the layers of paint and shadows and highlights, sorry to hear about you catching the pesky thing - it made me think back to about Ten years ago when I had a really bad case of flu - I had a really high temp severe constant vomiting loss of appetite hot and cold like you would not believe would my works let me off - no chance if I did not come to work they was gonna sack me - we was expected to just get on with it back then - how things have changed. OC. Jack12477, mtaylor and Egilman 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted Friday at 06:56 AM Share #82 Posted Friday at 06:56 AM 7 hours ago, Jack12477 said: Looking appropriately foreboding! Nice work on face. Sorry about Covid, I've had it twice since being vaccinated and boosted. 😠 Jack, I kind of joined a group of peeps who have not had a single vaccine for many many years, and a surprising thing was that very little talked about having cv19 symptoms - all seemed to have just been lucky not to have been unwell over many years apart from the normal things we have always had. OC. mtaylor, Jack12477 and Egilman 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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