mtaylor Posted February 15, 2013 #1 Posted February 15, 2013 I'm not going to try to recreate the whole log, but here's all the pictures from the previous log. They're not in any particular order but they might help someone. Feel free to hit me with any questions. hexnut, GrandpaPhil, JerryTodd and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Sjors Posted February 16, 2013 #2 Posted February 16, 2013 Wow Mark, Did I missed this one at the old MSW? Or are you playing jokes with me and you just finished this one in one night…... Great build! Sjors Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
patrickmil Posted February 16, 2013 #3 Posted February 16, 2013 Nice Constellation! This is one of those ships on my list. Now, if we all have our stories straight, then you can always say (as Sjors might be hinting at) that you did get this all done in one night! As they say "That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!" Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
augie Posted February 16, 2013 #4 Posted February 16, 2013 Thank you, Mark for getting Connie back up. She's a classic. WELL done! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
SkerryAmp Posted February 16, 2013 #5 Posted February 16, 2013 Wow Mark, that is a gorgeous ship. I LOVE the lighting!! Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull
mtaylor Posted February 16, 2013 Author #6 Posted February 16, 2013 Thanks for the nice comments, everyone. Sjors, it was on the old MSW.. probably buried somewhere. Patrick, when you're ready or before, ping me. The AL kit has a lot of pitfalls when built out of the box. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
capnharv2 Posted February 16, 2013 #7 Posted February 16, 2013 Mark, Wonderful build! I like the changes you made to correct the kit. I had the kit, but sold it when I found out the AL model, out of the box, was ficticous. I also didn't like the scale (H.O.?) Looks great! Thanks, Harvey Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 16, 2013 #8 Posted February 16, 2013 Mark, it's nice to see her back up and running! John Quote
popeye the sailor Posted February 17, 2013 #9 Posted February 17, 2013 I too must have missed this build......beautiful ship! I agree....the lighting is a nice touch! you did a superb job on her! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
riverboat Posted February 17, 2013 #10 Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Mark: it's nice to see you 've got your Constellation back up, You've done an excellent build on her and it's one that everyone here should see.The picture with the lighting on is just awesome! Great job. Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
mtaylor Posted February 17, 2013 Author #11 Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks for the nice comments everyone. Mark, Wonderful build! I like the changes you made to correct the kit. I had the kit, but sold it when I found out the AL model, out of the box, was ficticous. I also didn't like the scale (H.O.?) Looks great! Thanks, Harvey Harvey, I almost tossed mine for the same reasons. But I remember walking her in around '74 in Baltimore. The kit looked like she did then. So it wasn't fiction. It was laziness. They never changed the kit after the truth was out. It was a few people pointing me in the right direction that spurred me into this bash. Funny thing.... I noticed that AL include the hull hog that was there in '74. BTW, the scale is pretty close to HO and not what they had on the box. A bunch of stuff was either fiction or the wrong scale. Hi Mark: it's nice to see you 've got your Constellation back up, You've done an excellent build on her and it's one that everyone here should see.The picture with the lighting on is just awesome! Great job. Frank Thanks Frank. I've had few people say they like that stern shot. Maybe I should give up model making and go back to photography? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
rdsaplala Posted February 17, 2013 #12 Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Mark, I'm pleased to re-visit your Constellation log, she's a real show-stopper, my friend, and the upgrades you've given her have really spruced her up mtaylor 1 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo
mtaylor Posted February 17, 2013 Author #13 Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks Aldo. She was a learning curve to be sure. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
russ Posted February 17, 2013 #14 Posted February 17, 2013 Mark: You took a very difficult kit and made a really nice model out of it. Congratulations. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
mtaylor Posted February 17, 2013 Author #15 Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks Russ. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
keelhauled Posted February 18, 2013 #16 Posted February 18, 2013 Really nice. I've been able to walk her decks a few times. A real pleasure and it is interesting to see the difference between her appearances before and after the last restoration from 1770's to 1850's. Pretty cool lighting! Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/
mtaylor Posted February 18, 2013 Author #17 Posted February 18, 2013 Well it was fun walking her back then in the 70's. Pity it wasn't the old frigate they claimed it was. It really was the 1854 Sloop that they bastardized into something they called "the real frigate". For interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constellation_(1854) For even more indepth reading: http://www.comicbookbrain.com/a_uss_constellation_history.php and http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA241916 Quite the scandal... Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
CaptMorgan Posted June 29, 2014 #18 Posted June 29, 2014 Very nice build. I am just finishing up my own AL Constellation that had been sitting in the basement for many years. Had the opportunity to visit the ship last summer while working the Baltimore Grand Prix. I dug her out and now she is looking pretty good - just a little more rigging to go. Like many others here i was not impressed by the kit, however I did learn a lot that will help with the next one. Again - very nice build - congrats... RR mtaylor 1 Quote Till next time..... 😎 Steve Finished: Artesania Latina Constellation; Model Shipways USF Confederacy: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company Current Build: Syren's Winchelsea
Littlebob Posted June 29, 2014 #19 Posted June 29, 2014 The finished model looks awesome. I am starting to learn that a lot of the Al kits are to be polite just a bit off. JerryTodd and mtaylor 2 Quote
marc stutzel Posted May 7, 2018 #20 Posted May 7, 2018 Lovely sir. I am hacking away (literally) on my first kit. My goal is to build one of these first USN fleets. Marc mtaylor 1 Quote
mtaylor Posted May 7, 2018 Author #21 Posted May 7, 2018 Ah... this model is NOT one of the first frigates. The AL kit is a fraud. We had a total system crash back some years and lost everything so this is actually a kit bash. As I explained way back early on, what sits in Baltimore, which the plans were taken from decades ago, is the sloop of war from 1854. There were some shenanigans pulled when they acquired her to make everyone belief this was one of them. Drop the following into Google (minus the quotes) and you see what I mean: "fouled anchors the constellation question answered". Given that the plans for the orginal frigate have gone missing, there's really no plans to build the first Constellation. I was disheartened to find that out, but such is life. CaptainSteve 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 20, 2019 #22 Posted June 20, 2019 Well done! popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
JDenny Posted August 25, 2023 #23 Posted August 25, 2023 how did you align your mast holes and angles? Thank you Quote
mtaylor Posted August 26, 2023 Author #24 Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 8:20 AM, JDenny said: how did you align your mast holes and angles? Thank you To be honest, I don't remember as it was so long ago. We had a massive system crash (aka "The Great Crash" back then and lost everything so have no details. BTW, this is a bashed model from the AL kit to bring it in line from the kit to the 1855 ship. The original was from the 1700's was scrapped and the Navy played some games and called it a "rebuild" due to a battle with Congress. See: https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Portals/103/Documents/NSWC_Carderock/fouled_anchors-1.pdf I would suggest a couple things.... 1) Start a log of your own as it's a great way to meet others and also get help. 2) Hit this link.... https://modelshipworld.com/search/?q=uss constellation&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=135 It will take you to the search feature and display all the logs for this model and you can check them out for how they did it. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Madin Posted January 3 #25 Posted January 3 Hi guys. im totally new here and wanted to ask you about this particular model. I’ve started plunking the hull, but im a bit confused. I have two kinds of wooden sticks (not sure how you call them), the super thin one and the thicker ones. I’m not sure which one I should use for the hull and which one for the deck. Also; I’m reading that the hull needs a cover up? Are you using the thin ones for the first and the second layer? many thanks! mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote
popeye the sailor Posted January 4 #26 Posted January 4 hi there I've not built this model, but I've done a few like it. you would use the thicker strips to plank the hull. the thinner strips would be for the outer hull.......you must need to double plank the hull. are the darker strips thin as well.....if so, they are likely what you must use for the hull. the light colored thin stuff would be for planking the deck. after laying it, you can stain it to whatever color you prefer. mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
mtaylor Posted January 4 Author #27 Posted January 4 Welcome to MSW, Madin. Sorry for not getting back sooner but life and and all that. Do give some thought to an intro post in our New Members area. It's been a long time since I built this model and much is buried in Mind Dust, but I do believe Denis is correct. There's more than a few builds complete and many still under way. Use the search function with the keyword "Constellation" and you should get all the builds past and present. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
popeye the sailor Posted January 10 #28 Posted January 10 other builds in the same ship configuration and type may also give you ideas. if your new to the medium, ideas are the basis for creativity. you'll find that in some kits, the way they show to assemble aspects of the model may not be the best way to accomplish the task........I have found this in kits I've built in the past. starting a build log on your project is a good thing too.........other folk will get a visual of your progress and issues, and may be able to suggest and share ideas they might have used. mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Jack12477 Posted January 10 #29 Posted January 10 On 1/3/2024 at 6:31 PM, Madin said: Hi guys. im totally new here and wanted to ask you about this particular model. I’ve started plunking the hull, but im a bit confused. I have two kinds of wooden sticks (not sure how you call them), the super thin one and the thicker ones. I’m not sure which one I should use for the hull and which one for the deck. Also; I’m reading that the hull needs a cover up? Are you using the thin ones for the first and the second layer? many thanks! The thick white/yellow strips are the hull planking first layer. The 0.5 mm thin walnut strips are the 2nd planking, the 0.5 mm thin yellow strips are the 2nd planking above the wales, also deck planking. This is how most of AL kits come, the ultra thins strips are veneer.. See my build log, link in signature below popeye the sailor, Gregory and mtaylor 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
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