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All I need say is ....... you did it.  You know what that means.

 

Congrats on a stellar job.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Nice work JPett.

I hate to say this but I give you a week and you'll be missing planking, maybe 2 weeks. When you lay that last plank you think THANK GOODNESS! but then for me the rhythm of planking was missed very soon after.

 

Beautiful job, It just shows what patience and help from MSW can do.  

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That is sweet, JP - your hard work and planning - and rework - have certainly paid off.  And your documentation of the process will be a great resource for the rest of us.  Thanks for sharing your struggles, and congratulations on a job very well done.

 

Bob

Current build -- MS Bluenose

Future build - MS Flying Fish

 

"A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd

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Fantastic looking planking! Your hull looks great! I'm impressed with your first time efforts.

Thanks,

 

Patrick

 

YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio

Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara

Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54

 

"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday"

- John Wayne

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Jpett,

 

There is nothing I can say that hasn't already been said, I can't believe you made basswood look that good!

 

-Aaron

“The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine

 

Current Build:

 

Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale

 

On the Shelf:

 

Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale

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JPett -- Very, very nice.  Both the bow & stern line up beautifully, and the variations in wood tone only add to the beauty and precision of your work.  This is a Ratt that will set the standard.

 

Bravo,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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post-76-0-34209700-1368142104.gifpost-76-0-34209700-1368142104.gifpost-76-0-34209700-1368142104.gif Wonderful planking JP..  have one on me to celebrate. post-76-0-33892300-1368142166.gif

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Ahoy MSW :D

 

Thank you all for the comments: They are very kind and much appreciated :) :) :)

 

In reality, it is you guys that deserve praise more then I. 

 

If my planking proves anything, it would be the benefit of sites like MSW. I merely applied elbow grease and persistence (my only real talent). It was following the example and advice of others that took the time to post in their logs or respond in mine that allowed me to reach this point in my build. Thank you all. :)

 

Back to the Build: :pirate41:

 

Other then contemplating some changes to the paint scheme as a result of an image I received in a PM, I have been on a small break from building. I decided to clean the shipyard and reset it. Over the last four months, working on this project produced a lot of little mementos which are now very neatly organized in the trash bin and vacuum cleaner. 

I will be doing treenails, additional coats of poly, my transom and redoing for the third time my gunports. I understand that with Decks, three times is the charm. I hope that this will be true for Gunports too. This decision will all make sense in that post which might not be for a week or three. Again “thank you all” for your help on my journey. Till then.

 

 

Let this Pic document that my little closet work area was actually clean.

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 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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As someone once put it a long time ago... "a clean desk is the sign of work not being done".  Or maybe it was "a clean desk is the sign of a sick mind"????  What Keith said about needing a cleaning again soon.    :)

 

That is a nice work area, clean or dirty.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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I think you under estimate yourself a little there........you did a swell job there......and I'm sticking to it.

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Persistance and determination are the 2 most important talants one can possess, and you have lots of both. They will make you more successful then many other talents and allow a higher completion then average.

As a techer I always preferred a B student with persistance to an A student without. Too many individuals are good at things because to only do what they are good at.

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  • 2 weeks later...

JP, this all looks fantastic. I will definitely refer to this when I start planking the Morgan. I am going to go on an extended RV trip soon, but will take the Morgan and some tools and plank along the way. It'll be slow cause the Admiral wants to do some touring, but there will be days when perhaps I can work some in the mobile shipyard. Keep up the good work.

John

John

Current Current Builds:

US Brig Niagara on my website

FINISHED BUILD LOGS:

New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website:  http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html

C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/

USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/

 

website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com

website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com

website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com

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Hi JPett -- Maybe, just maybe it's time for a progress photo on your treenailing?  A sure way to break up the tedium is to take a photo or two.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin (fellow Ratter)

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Ahoy Martin and Ferit :D

Sadly, my lady does not wish to have her picture taken in her current state. It is kind of a morning thing. Like if you took a picture of the Admiral when she first woke up. After the surgeons remove the camera, you would know better :P

 

Yes: Sadly there was a slight problem in the shipyard, a cosmetic one, and it has been addressed: Well it is being addressed. I estimate it will take another two to four weeks for me to correct my misstep.

 

This mistake while very amateurish will be included in my log. I have come up with a way to document what I did. This documenting how I got where I did has added some much needed fun to this project, and is the real reason I am not posting any pictures yet. If I let the fun out of the bag now, I would be lost.

I am hoping that with this extended weekend I can make some additional progress and move past this sooner then later. Till then :)

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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The suspense is killing me now. I am just ready to start planking. Does this misstep have anything to do with that ?

Eric

 

Current build(s) ;

AL San Francisco II

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/

 

MS Rattlesnake

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2

 

Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana,

 

Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ?

 

"80% of the time it works every time."

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Ahoy Sport :D

 

Your good, The misstep had nothing to do with how I put the planks on. Just what I did to them afterward. It really isn't that bad either.

 

If this helps, the only thing I wish I had done differently was how I tapered the first three or four strakes. I plan to paint a black band on the wales and making sure the planks followed this same line would have been a good idea. Mine line will not follow the planks exactly but drift into the fourth strake towards the bow where my planks taper. It could have, had I thought of this before I started I would have made sure the first strakes followed this line.

 

 

 

 

** Edited to clarify, sorry I like things to be right :P

Edited by JPett

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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J.Pett:

Now you can see why many of us like to set the wales first and then plank off of that.

 

Russ

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Ahoy Mates :D

 

Ben: I'm learning :)

 

Russ: TY, I did start with the wales making them full width planks but I started to taper them to early. Right around bulkhead "E" and my paint drift will start there and run to bulkhead "C". I am hoping to fudge the paint drift and keep it to a 32nd and then swing it back on the plank line by "B". It now makes sense why I had to use wider planks in belt B between these bulkheads .

 

In the end it should be hard to notice but I did not consider this while planking and that was a mistake.  If I am thinking correctly I should have started the taper around "C". Please let me know if this is correct.

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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I do not know that I would have tapered the wales much at all. But, whatever the taper, it would be minimal and so your idea is a good one.

 

However, I would also have painted the wales before the rest of the planking was laid.

 

Russ

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it'll be interesting what change you made.......it was such a good job to begin with.........;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Ahoy Mates :D

 

Thank you for you interest in my build

 

Russ: I have gone back and checked my notes and the plans to see where I made this mistake. As I read the planking layout supplied on the plans which I used, it shows the wales tapering at the bow. They start around bulkhead "E" as I did. They are however, tapered in a way that provides a nice flow for the black paint which is what I now see I missed. This makes my early post about starting the taper around bulkhead "C" incorrect. I thought important to report this for anyone following this build.

 

I also considered painting the wales once complete as Ben had, but choose not to. There is no delineation between the wales and the lower hull planking on the Ratt and I was concerned about any sanding dragging color on the planks just below the painted wales. I did speak with Ben privately regarding this and he had his color scheme before he started, I did not. This allowed him to treat and protect the lower planks prior to installing them. I also felt that with my lack of experience I would have had to repaint them anyways once I was done.  I am using a clear satin ploy which will allow me to use tape to provide a clean line and this is how I plan to correct my mistake. I will find out shortly if this was the right move

 

PS: Your comment regarding setting the wales first has finally set in. Thank you. On my next build I will divide belt A into two sections. The wales and any remaining planks in that belt. Complete and check  (or set) the wales then use this line to finish the planking. I may even make them their own belt.

 

 

Buck: I have to find one first

 

Ferit: I think you mean "my reason of insanity" lol  :P

 

Popeye: I thought I could make it better. As much as I was very happy with the way my planking came out I did not like the look of the basswood. My little runabout showed me how beautiful wood can be and I did not find this to be true with my Ratt. Had I cherry picked the wood first I think I might have felt differently but I did not. So I tried to do something about it. It wasn't what I did as much as how I did it, that I am now correcting. I am very confident  that I will be very happy with my new plan. It is just a "boatload" of work.  

Edited by JPett

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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