Trussben Posted July 10, 2014 #121 Posted July 10, 2014 I also notice that the pics seem to show 4 runs of planking landing on the same bulkhead?? Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Chuck Posted July 10, 2014 #122 Posted July 10, 2014 The good news is....nobody can see more than one side at a time. Seriously...It looks very good. Well done Rusty. mtaylor 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
augie Posted July 10, 2014 #123 Posted July 10, 2014 Nicely done, mate. Knowing you, 'slight variation' means imperceptible! mtaylor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Rustyj Posted July 10, 2014 Author #124 Posted July 10, 2014 Hi Ben, Is it an issue with the planking or the framing?? I also notice that the pics seem to show 4 runs of planking landing on the same bulkhead I think it is a bit of both on my part where I didn't duplicate the run of the gun ports on both sides as close as I thought I did and then the laying of the planking may have had some minor creep to it too. We're talking 1/32" to 3/64". The good part is the run of the planks is uniform at the top of the frames. The planks all landing on the one frame were due to my error in laying the first few rows at the bow I mentioned awhile ago and instead of ripping off all the planks I only went back to the point that the run went astray. This part will be covered by the second layer of planking so I took the easiest route to correct it. Thanks Chuck. Having a lot of fun here when I can get some free time. Hi Augie, Thanks, imperceptible it's not, but acceptable it is . Once she's done 95% will be covered or blocked anyways! Thanks everyone for all the "likes" too it is appreciated. augie, Trussben and mtaylor 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
rafine Posted July 10, 2014 #125 Posted July 10, 2014 It looks better than "acceptable " to me Rusty. Well done. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mtaylor Posted July 11, 2014 #126 Posted July 11, 2014 It looks better than "acceptable " to me Rusty. Well done. Bob I quite agree with Bob. Lovely work. WackoWolf 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Rustyj Posted July 18, 2014 Author #127 Posted July 18, 2014 Thank you Bob and Mark. Much appreciated. Well I've commenced with adding the wales. The second layer is 1/16" x 5/32" just like the first layer of planking. The black strake is 1/32" x 5/32". At the bow the black strake is sanded down to 1/64" thick while the wales well be left slightly thicker than that. The anchor lining was traced onto the wales and black strake. The lining over the wales is 1/32" thick while the portion over the black strake is 1/16". Here all but the piece over the black strake have been added. jaerschen, sonicmcdude, fatih79 and 22 others 25 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
WackoWolf Posted July 19, 2014 #128 Posted July 19, 2014 A little at a time will get you a long way. Looking good Rusty. Keep the pictures coming. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
rafine Posted July 19, 2014 #129 Posted July 19, 2014 Your usual beautiful work Rusty. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Trussben Posted July 19, 2014 #130 Posted July 19, 2014 Hey Rusty, looks great but did you mistakenly use a strip of pear on the second strake of the wales? Looks a lot darker? Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
jml1083 Posted July 20, 2014 #131 Posted July 20, 2014 Very impressive work Rusty. Really a nice job. Quote Jim L What we ever hope to do with ease, we must learn first to do with diligence. - Samuel Johnson On the Building Ways: Launched: Contracts Signed: Member: The Nautical Research Guild The US Naval Institute
Rustyj Posted July 20, 2014 Author #132 Posted July 20, 2014 Thank you very much Joe, Bob, Ben and Jim and to everyone who posted a like too! Ben, I didn't mix up the wood types but I could have as it's going to be painted. All throughout the wales I used some old pieces I had left over and cut them up. The colors varied greatly from gray/brown to light brown and grainy looking. I figured it was a good place to use up some "scrap" boxwood up. Here is the anchor lining done. On this side you will noticed I took a lazy way out. The top piece over the black strake was about a 1/64" too narrow and seeing again that it's going to be painted I just left the gap and filled it. Now the directions call for painting the wales now prior to planking the hull. My thought is I'm a rough hull planker as I put in my lap, tip it upside down ect. I usually scratch the paint all up and have to repaint it. So I'm just going to apply one thin coat just to see if any imperfections show up and then fix them. Then it's on to laying out the planking belts for the hull, mill the wood and then plank it. That will be good for 2-3 months of cussing. fatih79, WackoWolf, Elmer Cornish and 12 others 15 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
augie Posted July 20, 2014 #133 Posted July 20, 2014 I'll lay you dollars to donuts that you won't leave it at one coat. The appearance at that point will disturb you and you won't want to leave it that way for 3 months !!!!! mtaylor and Rustyj 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
mtaylor Posted July 20, 2014 #134 Posted July 20, 2014 I agree with Augie on this. We know you too well.... Rustyj 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Rustyj Posted July 20, 2014 Author #135 Posted July 20, 2014 Hey Augie and Mark: augie and mtaylor 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
mtaylor Posted July 20, 2014 #136 Posted July 20, 2014 I guess the only question is will it be 3 coats or 10???? Rustyj and augie 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Trussben Posted July 20, 2014 #137 Posted July 20, 2014 20??? Rustyj 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Rustyj Posted July 20, 2014 Author #138 Posted July 20, 2014 No way I can do 20. I'm not as patient as Chuck and others. 10 would be my maximum. I guess we'll have to figure the over under on this one! mtaylor and Trussben 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
augie Posted July 20, 2014 #139 Posted July 20, 2014 Chuck??? It's Ben who holds the land speed record for # of coats! He's even gotten me up to 10 --- and I used to use a roller. Rustyj, gjdale, Trussben and 2 others 5 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
BANYAN Posted July 20, 2014 #140 Posted July 20, 2014 Very nice progress Rusty; haven't poked my nose in for awhile and was very pleasantly surprised. Go on - just one more 'wafer thin' coat' won't hurt Cheers Pat fnkershner, Rustyj and mtaylor 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Trussben Posted July 21, 2014 #141 Posted July 21, 2014 Hahaha!!! That's a good one Pat!! Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Rustyj Posted July 26, 2014 Author #142 Posted July 26, 2014 OK I've been continuing my work on the wales and black strake. The first picture you will see one coat of black paint applied. I then went over the wales sanding some and taking care of a couple of joints that weren't as tight as I thought they were. Just put a dab of glue on the crack and sanded it. And here you see it with a second "wafer thin" coat of paint. So far that is it! I'll be spending the next few days trying to lay out the run of the planks and not bugging Chuck to much while doing it. fatih79, mtaylor, Elia and 18 others 21 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Chuck Posted July 26, 2014 #143 Posted July 26, 2014 Looking fantastic Rusty!!! Rustyj 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
rafine Posted July 26, 2014 #144 Posted July 26, 2014 However many coats of paint you end up with, it will look great -- it already looks great. Bob Rustyj 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
dvm27 Posted July 26, 2014 #145 Posted July 26, 2014 Beautiful, Rusty! Rustyj 1 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
augie Posted July 26, 2014 #146 Posted July 26, 2014 Voila ..... total transformation! Beautiful. I'll PM you my home address to collect my donuts for the 'more than one coat' wager. mtaylor and Rustyj 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
fnkershner Posted July 26, 2014 #147 Posted July 26, 2014 How many coats of paint did this take? Sounds like only 2 or 3. Also did you thin the paint? Rustyj 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Rustyj Posted July 27, 2014 Author #148 Posted July 27, 2014 Thanks for all your help Chuck! Hi Bob, Thank you, you're too kind. Thank you Greg. Hi Augie, Still waiting for your address though they may be a bit stall by the time the post office gets them there. Thanks Dirk. Hi Floyd. So far just 2 coats though there will be many more before she's done. I use acrylic paint and thin it about 50/50 with water. I'll eventually switch to artists paints in the tube like Chuck uses but I still have this black paint left and I like it's matt finish. Also thank you all for all the likes. It's very much appreciated. mtaylor 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted July 27, 2014 #149 Posted July 27, 2014 Looks great Rusty! Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Sjors Posted July 29, 2014 #150 Posted July 29, 2014 Wow, wow, wow ,wow ...... How many coats of paint Rusty ?????? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
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