Jim Lad Posted March 7, 2013 #61 Posted March 7, 2013 Spar torpedo? Ah, you mean the suicide spear! :mellow: Whoever thought of that one out should have been made to make the first live attack with one - but you've made a great job of it, mate! John Quote
augie Posted March 7, 2013 #62 Posted March 7, 2013 I think John hit the nail on the head. The concept of ramming a vessel to stick an explosive charge into it then backing off in order to 'pull the trigger' strikes me as shear lunacy. Try your gun first, Bob. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
mtaylor Posted March 7, 2013 #63 Posted March 7, 2013 Augie, As I recall, they didn't back off before firing. The torpedo would have just bobbed around a bit. I think John hit it right... "suicide spear". Reference the Hunley... Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
gjdale Posted March 7, 2013 #64 Posted March 7, 2013 Augie, As I recall, they didn't back off before firing. The torpedo would have just bobbed around a bit. I think John hit it right... "suicide spear". Reference the Hunley... And a concept still used today....recall USS Cole a few years ago..... Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
rafine Posted March 7, 2013 Author #65 Posted March 7, 2013 Thanks all, for the interest and kind words. "Suicide" seems a fair description of the mission of this boat. Of the fifteen crew, two died and eleven were captured, but rhe mission was successful and the target sunk. There seems to be little certainty about how the torpedo was deployed and detonated, but it is clear that it involved getting right up to the target to place the torpedo. Final work is now underway, with completion in the next few days. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted March 8, 2013 Author #66 Posted March 8, 2013 Getting to the finish line. The anchor is now made and installed. I followed the suggestions made by John (Jim Lad) and did an Admiralty pattern anchor of just over three feet in length with a folding stock. The anchor is made of boxwood and the stock is brass rod with small beads at each end and a slice of styrene tube as the center stop. The shackle was made from brass strip bent to shape.The stock worked until I glued it in place. I also made the mast, which is a simple piece of dowel, tapered to shape, with two blocks ( of unknown use) attached at the head. Bob WackoWolf 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
gjdale Posted March 8, 2013 #67 Posted March 8, 2013 Very nice work on that anchor Bob. Mast looks great too. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Jim Lad Posted March 8, 2013 #68 Posted March 8, 2013 Very nice anchor, Bob. It looks just the ticket, except that the launch would be aground before the anchor touched bottom with that length of cable! John Quote
augie Posted March 9, 2013 #69 Posted March 9, 2013 Nice anchor! Could the blocks be for flag halliards? Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rafine Posted March 9, 2013 Author #70 Posted March 9, 2013 Thanks, Grant, John and Augie. John, I'm sure that you're right about the cable length. I redid it to provide about 35 feet of cable, which I hope would be enough for a boat working in relatively shallow river waters. Augie, I've seen different theories as to the use of the blocks, but nothing definitive. Bob . WackoWolf 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
russ Posted March 9, 2013 #71 Posted March 9, 2013 Bob: Do the plans not indicate what those blocks were used for? Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
rafine Posted March 9, 2013 Author #72 Posted March 9, 2013 No, Russ. There's no indication at all. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Jim Lad Posted March 9, 2013 #73 Posted March 9, 2013 Anchor cable looks good now, mate. Being a naval launch of the 1860's, surely the blocks were for signal halliards - no radios in those days! John Quote
rafine Posted March 11, 2013 Author #74 Posted March 11, 2013 The picket boat is now complete. I have set the steam plant components in place and have rigged the funnel guy lines to eyebolts in the funnel and rail. With that, work on the model is done. My camera battery required recharging, so I'll post a few more photos of the finished model tomorrow. Building this model was a pleasure. I will again commend the kit designer, Bob Crane, and Model Expo for a fine product. I would recommend it to anyone with or without experience. Bob KevinR, EricWilliamMarshall, Gahm and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
russ Posted March 11, 2013 #75 Posted March 11, 2013 Very nice work. This makes into a fine model. Thanks for showing us what can be done with this kit. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Jim Lad Posted March 11, 2013 #76 Posted March 11, 2013 Wow! SHe looks really good - a real credit to you, mate! Looking forward to the extra photos when your battery is charged. John Quote
j21896 Posted March 11, 2013 #77 Posted March 11, 2013 Very nicely done Bob! Congrats on completing a fine model. Cheers, Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
mtaylor Posted March 11, 2013 #78 Posted March 11, 2013 Looks great. A very neat and well done build, Bob. I'm looking forward to seeing some more pictures of it. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
augie Posted March 11, 2013 #79 Posted March 11, 2013 Excellent job, Bob. I'm looking forward to the final pics Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rlb Posted March 11, 2013 #80 Posted March 11, 2013 Congratulations, Bob! Outstanding job on your picket boat. I enjoyed following along. Ron WackoWolf 1 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop
Rustyj Posted March 11, 2013 #81 Posted March 11, 2013 Hi Bob, Well done. That is a excellent job you did on a fine model. As always it was a pleasure following along. WackoWolf 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
rafine Posted March 12, 2013 Author #82 Posted March 12, 2013 Many thanks, guys. I'm really happy that you all have followed this build and provided your encouragement and support.. Much appreciated. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Ryland Craze Posted March 12, 2013 #83 Posted March 12, 2013 Bob, this turned out to be a beautiful model. Speaking from experience, I am sure Model Expo has sold many of these kits because of your fine work. I cannot wait until the day that I start mine. WackoWolf 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
bhermann Posted March 12, 2013 #84 Posted March 12, 2013 Bob - thanks for bringing us a fine example of a build we don't get to see too much of. I love the details that you were able to include at this scale and the realism it adds to the build. Well done! Bob WackoWolf 1 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd
gjdale Posted March 12, 2013 #85 Posted March 12, 2013 Beautifully done Bob! Can't wait to see the rest of the pictures. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
aliluke Posted March 12, 2013 #86 Posted March 12, 2013 Beautifully made Bob - as you always do. An interesting subject and a very fine model to highlight it. Congratulations and thank you for sharing. Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
rafine Posted March 12, 2013 Author #87 Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks, Ryland, Bob, Grant and Alistair. Here are the final photos. By the way, the mounting is only temporary. The model will go in a case. Now that this project is done, I am going to try to redo my prior build logs for Fair American, Kingfisher and Syren, at least in very summary fashion. Bob CharlieZardoz, coxswain, egkb and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
j21896 Posted March 12, 2013 #88 Posted March 12, 2013 Wow Bob, I really like the views of the full hull! As previously mentioned, this is a great advertisement for the kit! Robert WackoWolf 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
rafine Posted March 12, 2013 Author #89 Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks, Robert. I'd love to see more logs. Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Jim Lad Posted March 12, 2013 #90 Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks for the additional photos of your lovely 'baby', Bob. John Quote
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