dafi Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share #181 Posted February 23, 2013 Thank you Sirs :-) Last cognizance was that I forgot the ciphers on the already glued in guns ... ...so I tried something new ... ... I thought ... ... and remembered, that CA does not stick on silicon. So stuck a ball of silicon on a stick and took a form of one gun with cipher. After taking off the form, I plaved a cipher inside and ... ... with some CA on the cipher I ran full risk ... ... and placed it onto the gun, and after two seconds I was able to retrieve the stick and the cipher was on place :-) Have to remember this trick :-) And just some more Cipherorama ... Enjoy, Daniel Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #182 Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) And here comes yesterdays workout program: First the easiest part the poop skylight - Still the glazing and some reinforcements on the inside have to be added. Then the different gunport lid hinges ... ... in place and beringed, both sides. The fake steering wheel columne: The rail of the poop got more exiting again. Closed the slots and cut off the nipples from the buckets ... ... flexed the new hangers of the buckets ... ... drilled the holes for the hammock cranes into the styrene ... ... and fixed the cranes and a bucket - fits :-) Even more fun was the binnacle ... ... the outside was tight part to be bent, bent the inside part, paper "flooded with thin CA" (Reed) as base for the compass layer cake, ... ... small top for the funnel formed with the center punch ... ... and with the styrine rod and the micro rings on the side it is at least an improvement towards the one of the box :-) Still missing the glazing and the lantern in the middle, this one out of a toothpick as done before. And then the heading for mishaps, missteps, and misfortune: the boarding pikes. The brass parts were ok, but first I took the wrong measures - first tear-off - then forgot that I elongated the rubbing pouch downwards - second tear-off - and then still misplaced the rings and lost the nice detail of the spearhead underneath the ring - no tear off as I did not manage - so have to live with this small mishap ... One can imagine, how the brass parts and the masts looked like ... In the meantime I managed to clean it up a tad, and the rest will disappear underneath the collar that protects the hole in the deck and the underneath the main and preventer stay. Now still have to try the chains and some other unimportant stuff :-) Lieber Gruß, Daniel Edited February 24, 2013 by dafi Dubz 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted February 24, 2013 Share #183 Posted February 24, 2013 That is some incredible detail. I'm not that familiar with photo-etching sets for anything besides armor and aircraft models. Can you take a picture of your photo-etch set so we can see what all is included? Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share #184 Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Hello Patrick, thank you. I will soon show them as the final stage is done. it is 4 A5 plates jam packed plus 2 plates with sidings :-) Daniel Edited February 25, 2013 by dafi Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 25, 2013 Share #185 Posted February 25, 2013 That's detailing to the limit... You will be forced to remove microscopic dust particles, otherwise we will think that's just intended there to be Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share #186 Posted February 25, 2013 ...hihihihi... ...good night goody ... ...and the one I was most curious for: Grüßle, Daniel Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 26, 2013 Share #187 Posted February 26, 2013 I know that these chainplates are more to scale than your homemade ones from wire that are used in your first build. But, to be honest, I like the home-made ones better that the etched ones. But perhaps that is due to the fact that these are still a bit blingy. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share #188 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Hello Jan, just back from a holiday, so the answer a bit late. Thank you for your comment. Both versions base on a 0,4 mm diameter, which is near the real thing. Just the etch has a square form and so always appears a tad thicker if seen from diagonally. The lengths of the middle parts of my etch ones have still to be shortened a bit. I think no etch can beat a self- made version out of round wire on this place, but it is a question of ability and endurance and of course of convenience which version one does prefer for his own build. But it is far better than the original Heller version, which one was - has to admit - innovative and a big step forward in sailing ship model making by the time that the kit was released! Liebe Grüße, Daniel Edited March 10, 2013 by dafi Lecsandro 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 10, 2013 Share #189 Posted March 10, 2013 Daniel, I hope you had a great holiday. The chainplates are a vast improvement, as is everything else you have done. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share #190 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Thank you Mark, I was in Austria, near my favorite place in the secret austrian ship yards where I already discovered the SMS Trinkstein ... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/349-sms-trinkstein-by-dafi-sos-stone-on-soil-flush-deck-frigate-of-the-austrian-mountain-navy/ This time I meet sone austrian forum comrades and visited the Go Modelling exhibition. Very few sailing ships, the ones shown mostely made out of paper which took me some time to discover, that perfect they were :-) Highlight were the Royal Oak in the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum Wien (Army Museum Vienna) and the York of Willi Meischel, which I had the honor to meet on his place. http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite64.html http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite16.html http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite17.html http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite18.html http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite19.html Enjoy, Daniel Edited March 10, 2013 by dafi Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 11, 2013 Share #191 Posted March 11, 2013 I would hope that Herr Meischel would have been honored to meet you. You both do fantastic work. dafi 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SketchupModeller Posted March 11, 2013 Share #192 Posted March 11, 2013 Brilliant! I really like the way the bucket handles worked on the poop rail. Quote Brandon Current project: HMS Pandora (1779) CAD build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share #193 Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Mark, you old flatterer :-) And of course I have to like this, but Willi is still far beyond :-) The only modeler I know who build a 1:1 waterline model with full rigging ... Thank you SkechupModeller. This solved one thing I was thinking long for already. Daniel Edited March 11, 2013 by dafi Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share #194 Posted March 12, 2013 It feels great to be back in the shipyard after some absence due to work and holiday. So got my building report out of page 47 and undusted it ... A friend of mine once said, it is no etch, if it doesn´t hurt, so I tried one of the last parts, with some tiny lilies ... ... but I think they still need some water to grow a tad ... :-) XXXDAn Mirabell61 and Blue Ensign 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 12, 2013 Share #195 Posted March 12, 2013 ........ I presume that that large chunk of wood at the right hand side of the pucture is a tree-nail in real life? How are you going to paint this fantastic little crown? A one-haired brush will be way too thick Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share #196 Posted March 12, 2013 Been there Jan, done that ... ... thats the one I had done from the parts of the box ... ... and that is how it looked like before ... ... just the little knobs missing that I cut off to get a bending template. Much more a good magnifying glass is needed :-) XXXDAn Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted March 13, 2013 Share #197 Posted March 13, 2013 Dan - master of miniatures! wow.... Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #198 Posted March 21, 2013 After trying first all the difficult parts, I took the hammock cranes for easy play. Drill holes, plug and play :-) Not too exciting ... ... worked well so far, as expected. On the thin rail at the end of the waist the cranes go down to the deck ... ... the poop´s edge with it´s different cranes ... ... and holy cow ....: There are some cranes left in the plate!?! Where were they from?!? Looked and searched and found the black ones on the poop rail to be wrong and too short :-( Put the right one beside but looked strangely high ... ... what´s wrong ?!? Called for Mr Wright and it was immediately clear, what was wrong:. The height of the higher cranes on the rail is wright, It prooved the cranes on the poops side being too low, pictures of the Vic and McKay confirmed ... ... so I can redraw that area of the plates to gain some 4 mm. Just to make sure, I did send Mr Wright to the other cranes and rails ... ... but it looked good over there :-) Amicalement, Daniel Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the learner Posted March 27, 2013 Share #199 Posted March 27, 2013 Fantastic build! Hard to believe it started life as a plastic kit. Great detail photos and explanations on your construction methods Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 27, 2013 Share #200 Posted March 27, 2013 it's quite simple my friend.........you'll get those ciphers on in the usual 'Dafi' way! good to see your log is back.......well updated and under way. I had a tough go.......doing my logs........getting back all the builds I was following, and keep the Wharf running. I'll look forward in following the inventive mind of Dr. Dafi Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share #201 Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) :-) Thank you Sirs! Will try my best to keep you entertained. And Popeye, it was worth your work!!! XXXDAn Edited March 27, 2013 by dafi Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 27, 2013 Share #202 Posted March 27, 2013 yea.....I know! I thought I was at the end of your log.........I posted and all this extra showed up! man........your fast.......and very .....VERY good! now........if I hit 'post'.........am I going to see a ton more? I hope so! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 27, 2013 Share #203 Posted March 27, 2013 Popeye, we all hope more shows up. Daniel is teaching us a lot about how these ships not only looked but how they worked. Daniel, Excellent work and research. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share #204 Posted March 27, 2013 Oh Popeye, you must be joking, me - being stuck on the lower gundeck now for about 4 years ... ;-) XXXDAn ........your fast....... Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 28, 2013 Share #205 Posted March 28, 2013 so, is this your plan.......to take each hull and do the separate deck levels on each. that would be a huge undertaking, my friend....and so very........very cool! your not kidding Mark........it was Dafi that inspired me to do what I'm going to do with the United States build I might not be able to do what he's doing........but it will look 100% better than if it was done with the plastic decks.........your work is outstanding Daniel....and you research is superb! William-Victory 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted March 28, 2013 Share #206 Posted March 28, 2013 Dan, it appears that you are one of the rare people who really enjoys getting deep into the research as much as building ships. I love to follow along as you write the story of such a classic warship. And that's not to mention that your work is truly inspiring. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted April 14, 2013 Share #207 Posted April 14, 2013 Hi Daniel. Always amazied at your build of the HMS Victory and how much scratch you put in to them. Did you every think about putting in all the tools used to handle the cannons? At the moment am researching the tools and were they may of been put. I know that some times the were hung on hooks on the bulwarks and some times on the beams them self's. Seems that the beams them self would have been a little on the busy side with the pieces that held the hammocks. Any way can you please tell me were you got the photo etch that you have shown in the last few photo's of your build. Thank you sir and look forward to your next surprise and update to bring her to life. O am always happy to see that your crew are hard at work. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share #208 Posted April 14, 2013 Hallo Gary, thank you very much. The usual place on the lower decks was as far as I know in between the deck beams. As the hammock hooks were a bit lower, I do not see a bigger problem. Also the lanyards for the gun-port lids were on the beams. For the upper and quarter deck guns I do not know if they were stowed on the bulwarks or somewhere else. The etch parts are my own and will be available in a short time :-) Details will follow. XXXDAn Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 15, 2013 Share #209 Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Dafi - good morning can you post a picture of yr build into this thread please, opening page of thread explains why http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1589-latest-full-profile-photograph-of-your-build/ Edited April 15, 2013 by Kevin dafi 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share #210 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Dear Robin, thank you for your feedback!!! Thank you, Daniel PS: As it is more quiet here - I am not in summernation yet, here is the little side project, closely linked to this one :-) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1487-by-the-deep-17-by-dafi-royal-navy-17801805-display/page-3 Edited May 19, 2013 by dafi stevetuck56 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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