chris watton Posted February 6, 2015 #571 Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) It's been a while. I was working on Victory, but then I was sent my new designs for the Prince in laser cut and PE parts, so I figuered I'd build up the prince hull first, so that I can courier the hull over to Amati. They will then get a very good carver to make all new carvings for the model, have them cast, and then send me back the hull and loose catings. I can then continue, and finally finish the Prince! When the prince is with Amati, I shall complete the Victory drawings/plans/instructions, which should be no later than Summer. I know Amati are keen to finalise both Prince and Victory, and I am hoping Victory will be ready for release either late this year or very early next. I have attached a couple of pics of Prince in progress. I have just completed the first planking. I re-done the designs to include three more main bulkheads, (almost) full length decks from lover gun deck upwards, and the new gun port designs that are now intergeral to the hull, rather than the 1mm ply gun port patterns of the old design. Edited February 6, 2015 by chris watton Sjors, tasmanian, realworkingsailor and 32 others 35 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Rustyj Posted February 6, 2015 #572 Posted February 6, 2015 Very nice Chris. I always enjoy seeing your designs! Thanks for sharing Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
NMBROOK Posted February 6, 2015 #573 Posted February 6, 2015 WOW Chris!!!!I had got my head around no more kits for me,then you post this This would have to be the one exception!!!No rush though many thousands of hours ahead with my current projects,plus a break due to my workshop going into storage whilst I am currently relocating Kind Regards Nigel maltbyguy and CaptainSteve 2 Currently working on Royal Caroline
Ulises Victoria Posted February 6, 2015 #574 Posted February 6, 2015 Oh WOW!. I keep telling myself I have enough kits on my shelf, and suddenly the Amati Victory is on the horizon. Better start saving or maybe try to sell a couple of the kits in my stash. Sjors, mtaylor, Jaxboat and 1 other 4 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Sjors Posted February 7, 2015 #575 Posted February 7, 2015 I will follow you with the savings Ulises This is good new Chris ! I think I make my wish list for Christmas 2016 ...... Sjors Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Keith_W Posted February 7, 2015 #576 Posted February 7, 2015 That HMS Prince has my mouth watering. Someone said to me when I was considering making a Victory (something I have wanted to do since I was a kid!) ... "every man and his dog is making a HMS Victory". Hence my Royal William. I would definitely buy a Prince. What scale is she going to be in? Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
amateur Posted February 7, 2015 #577 Posted February 7, 2015 i'm affraid she will be huge. huge seems to be the new kit- designers standard.... I'm still hoping for a small scale kir of a large ship. I dont have space for another over three foot model. Jan
chris watton Posted February 7, 2015 #578 Posted February 7, 2015 Prince is 64th scale, same as Victory, but being almost 100 year's older, it is somewhat smaller. In fact, it is almost identical in length to the old original Amati Prince (which was given a scale of 1:78...). So no larger than the kit that was available over 40 year's ago! (Just a little more accurate and, hopefully, a lot easier to build). Also, because of the spritsail topmast and no long mizzen boom protruding over the stern, it is a lot shorter than Victory. As for Victory, there are many kits available at smaller scales, but I think this is the first at 64th and to have full lower decks detail, complete with a full compliment of cannon and scale carriages. mtaylor, CharlieZardoz, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Vanguard Models on Facebook
amateur Posted February 7, 2015 #579 Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Don't misunderstand me. I see that these kits are wonderful kits. Problem is that my workshop and home does not fit around a 1:64 ,Vic. I therefore would prefer something much smaller in scale. By the way: what js the current status of the galleon Revenge? Jan Edited February 8, 2015 by amateur
Keith_W Posted February 8, 2015 #580 Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks for the reply, Chris. I am somewhat confused as to why this 1:64 Prince should be "almost identical" in length to Amati's earlier 1:78 Prince? Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
chris watton Posted February 8, 2015 #581 Posted February 8, 2015 Hi Jan, I know for a fact that Amati are working hard to get Revenge released ASAP, so it shouldn't be too long. (Please rare in mind that I am almost 1000 miles away from Amati, so am not sure what goes on there day-to-day - I only know Revenge is imminent because of the last minute emails I recieve, asking for final clarification on some parts) keith, I think they got the scale wrong on Prince all those year's ago, I think it's really as simple as that. I used the drawings/lines taken off the original dockyard model, scaled them down from 48th to 64th and that's was the basis for the new Prince (And Van De Velde drawings for details of the actual Prince). Apart from size, almost everything was wrong with the original Amati model. mtaylor and Keith_W 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Kevin Posted February 8, 2015 #582 Posted February 8, 2015 Good morning Chris, i have been away from my boat building for a couple of months due to one reason or another, lol mainly the other, lovely yo see another design of yours in progress Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
Kusawa2000 Posted February 8, 2015 #583 Posted February 8, 2015 Chris: Appreciate the update on the progress of Amati release of kits. While Im still holding on hope for the release of the Bellona kit, the Prince kit has me tempted.. Keep the pics and updates coming.. and thanks for keeping us in the loop this far in the process. Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Jaxboat 1 Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild
James H Posted February 8, 2015 #584 Posted February 8, 2015 I really have to try my hand at Victory. Rustyj and Sjors 2 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
GMO2 Posted February 8, 2015 #585 Posted February 8, 2015 At what scale is the Revenge designed and what are the resulting dimensions?
amateur Posted February 9, 2015 #586 Posted February 9, 2015 I think it was 1:64. No idea what the dimensions are. Not a small model, but I may be tempted to persuade the admiral http://www.amatimodel.com/it/modelli/novita/revenge Jan Sjors 1
GMO2 Posted February 10, 2015 #587 Posted February 10, 2015 Wikipedia states a length of about 140 ft. and about 400 tons. Iassume the 140 ft. at that disp. would be on the gundeck which should give us a 27 in. hull and maybe 35 in. or so overall at 1~64. Not bad to work with. Amateur,you can always resort to reminding the Memsahib that the many hours spent on this are not hours spent hanging out with those ne er~do~wells at the local watering hole. Works most of the time. geoff 1
amateur Posted February 10, 2015 #588 Posted February 10, 2015 That's why she gave me prins willem fifteen yesrs ago mtaylor and Sjors 2
GMO2 Posted February 10, 2015 #589 Posted February 10, 2015 Well,its probably too much to hope that it would work again. Ihave ever found that Memsahibs have prodigous long memories.Which brings me to the point. Have you any idea what the price of this kit is anticipated to be ? Just in case I have to conjure up a new ploy of my own.
Griffon Posted February 20, 2015 #590 Posted February 20, 2015 Maybe I missed that information but I would like to know if the roman warship is plan to be released ? If yes, do we have an idea when ? Ben WackoWolf 1
Ponto Posted February 21, 2015 #591 Posted February 21, 2015 Many years ago when I took up this nautical adventure in miniature I dreamed that the Victory would be my definitive build......after building the Corel offering and breaking it up and salvaging it for parts, I think that this Amati offering may be my dream build............ JP Bettina and mtaylor 2 Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings),
AWD Posted April 13, 2015 #592 Posted April 13, 2015 According to their web site Amiti have released their long awaited Revenge. Pictures look good Alan
md1400cs Posted April 13, 2015 #593 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Beautiful !!! http://www.amatimodel.com/en/new-entries/revenge be sure to click the 3D animation, and wait for the image to stabilize as you rotate it around. Clicked on Search Reseller, appears to only be available from sellers in Italy at this point. No idea on pricing that I could determine. (I know that link was posted previously) They do list USA resellers of Amati but not for this issue, as of yet. Check my last sentence, Just checked with Age of Sail in California, they are expecting this kit next month. Michael Edited April 13, 2015 by md1400cs Jaxboat 1 Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
pirozzi Posted April 14, 2015 #594 Posted April 14, 2015 Beautiful !!! http://www.amatimodel.com/en/new-entries/revenge be sure to click the 3D animation, and wait for the image to stabilize as you rotate it around. Clicked on Search Reseller, appears to only be available from sellers in Italy at this point. No idea on pricing that I could determine. (I know that link was posted previously) They do list USA resellers of Amati but not for this issue, as of yet. Check my last sentence, Just checked with Age of Sail in California, they are expecting this kit next month. Michael Wow. I might have to give this one serious consideration. Vince P.
md1400cs Posted April 14, 2015 #595 Posted April 14, 2015 Vince, My only reservation would be if this kit looks SO awesome because Chris Watton added his "magic" though the Amati link does seem to indicate that the kit also includes patterns for the wonderfully colorful upper hull artwork. I'll wait for reviews here at MSW. Yes, It certainly is super tempting. Michael Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
cerberusjf Posted May 9, 2015 #596 Posted May 9, 2015 This is a fantastic model, any news when will it be released? I was thinking of doing exactly this ship, or one of Cleopatra's ships based on reliefs, so this kit is perfect. This is an extremely good job, well done! WackoWolf 1
ringleheim Posted May 10, 2015 #597 Posted May 10, 2015 Does anyone know the latest on this? When did the reference to the Revenge become active at Amati's website? It's there now, but no reference to MSRP....no reference that I can find at Cornwallmodelboats either. I'd love to know where I can buy it and how much it costs!
pirozzi Posted May 10, 2015 #598 Posted May 10, 2015 I do know that Ages of Sail in California should have it for sale in June. No word on price. Try giving them a call. Vince P.
md1400cs Posted May 11, 2015 #599 Posted May 11, 2015 I have contacted Ages of Sail regarding this issue. They responded, and they said that they will contact me with USD pricing info when product comes in. Oh my -- it is a beautiful ship kit...I'll update this thread when I have their price. Michael marktiedens, WackoWolf and Jaxboat 3 Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
ringleheim Posted May 11, 2015 #600 Posted May 11, 2015 I have contacted Ages of Sail regarding this issue. They responded, and they said that they will contact me with USD pricing info when product comes in. Oh my -- it is a beautiful ship kit...I'll update this thread when I have their price. Michael OK, thanks. I guess I didn't realize this kit is not quite ready to roll yet. I like this era of ship and it is a refreshing change from the usual suspects. Ulises Victoria 1
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