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And I thought after you build all natural things in snow white, the fireplace should also be snow white
- mtaylor, FrankWouts, Chuck and 3 others
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Hello Chuck,
that looks all pretty good what you have build there.
But then this. There is the snow white ship, looking if never a human hand had ever touched it, and then a used second hand fireplace!
What is the mistake here?
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Hello,
after some days with snow and sunshine I'm now back at the shipyard. In Dec. we had here in Schleswig-Holstein an average of 5 hours sunshine!
Cutting the planks for the gangway
The painter has painted the knees and the carpenters made the planks ready for installing.
In the front on both sides are cavel blocks
And now is the gangway ready, except for the rails to the outside, who come when the whole ship would be mainly ready.
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Thank you Dziadeczek,
it is not the look of these pissdales, but where they are build in and how many there are, what I did't know.
Here again the sentence of Joe J. Simmons III, who wrote in his booklet "Those Vulgar Tubes": they where often installed forward and aft against the bulwarks in the waists on contemporary models
The place behind the FC bulwark, as in your picture, is since the gangways where introduced no more realistic. That is may be also the reason why they where no more seen in models. They where used until the end of the 19th century.
- Keith Black, Theodosius, FriedClams and 2 others
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Hello, and thank you GrandpaPhill
what I found out is, when the FC deck is overhanging over the first cannon in the waist, they have ladders. First the Royal Oak and then the Medway
When there is no overhang and that is mostly the case, not. And you could see, why not.
L.G. Carr Laughton wrote only that the gangway way was introduced in 1744. Nothing from only temporary. The next picture is the 60 gunner (1745) I saw at Chatham and then the frigate Lowestoft (1761) At the Lowestoft the ladders are missing, I think.
Here are the gangways installed. The ladders in these cases are at the entry. That is I think the way I would build it. The question is then, where would be the pissdales?
Joe J. Simmons III wrote in his booklet: they where often installed forward and aft against the bulwarks in the waists on contemporary models. So where there four of them? Under the QD is the head-room much better. Should I build them there?
- CiscoH, scrubbyj427, Keith Black and 12 others
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Hello,
the carpenters finished also the standards for the starboard side and set them in. The painter is just ready with painting.
But then arose a problem. There where the Painter now stand, I would build in the pissdale. But I also would build the gangway between FC and QD! The painter is not the largest on and the gangway would be 5 feet something high above deck and 1' 6" broad, so performing your business there would not be very comfortable!
In Goodwin's English Man of War at page 193 he wrote this:
The gangways where only temporary. But then I think I need a ladder to reach the fore castle and have the same problem. But you did't see many models with ladders there. When, they have a short gangway and look very fast installed. Where there none and the sailers had to climb up there somehow?
Ideas for this are very welcome
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Thank you all for your nice comments and likes.
Håkan and Keith, that is what I would tell these builders with there black and white ships. These ships where painted. And they are beautiful in this way.
Nobody would build the Bismarck in black and white, and she is't more beautiful painted, but historical correct. So why not paint the earlier ships?
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Hello,
the ward room is ready! The shipwright is very pleased.
The entrance
And the question, where where the cannons stored?
The traditionally way, as above. No, or stored to the walls
In this case there could't be more cabins for the 3. and 4. Lieutenants made from sailcloth. So I think that they at least stored one pair of cannons outside of the wardroom. I've got the division here from the 60 gunner York, 1753.
And this is what you will see later from all of this
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Hello Thukydides,
I saw with my circular saw first in one direction one half of the wood and then perpendicular to that the other half from the other side.
- Mirabell61, Keith Black, Thukydides and 5 others
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Hello,
pantry the second. The pantry did't fit really into the ship. I don't know what I measured there
One of the main faults was, the ship widens in this region. I noticed that some time before, and you may have seen the wights I put on the beams. I thought that the beams dried, and got out of shape. But nothing as I learned now. The beams where ok, and also the distance above at frame 127. (the beams at this ship are numbered from 1 to 145
) So I insert a bold and screwed the walls together until the beams fit again into the holes made for the pins.
The second thing was, the place where the bulwark under the beam join the pantry was wrong
So I decided to build a new pantry.
This one fits under the beams and the place where the bulwark meets the pantry is right. The men talking, and I had the whole work to do!
The right one is the 1. one. So, if anyone needs an only slightly used, almost new pantry, please tell me.
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Keith, the imperfections at the last picture comes from the foil that is at the back of the acrylic.
- mtaylor, Theodosius and Keith Black
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Hello,
these windows now are installed and I'm pleased with the result. For tomorrow there are some smaller things to do like repainting some parts, and then are the other windows to build. They are a little easier to build I hope.
JJ, it is't so hard to build the windows this way. I glued the battens to a 0,3 mm acrylic pane with acrylic thinner, solvent. After all has hardened and is fast, I saw and grind the outer battens to the right shape, so that they fit into the frame. At the next picture you see the steps. The brush is to get the thinner under the battens. Don't press too hard, only lightly so that you not press the thinner out and the wood flat at the underside.
And this is the thinner, solvent I use.
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Thank you Keith, I repaired the left one and I think it is ok now.
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- FriedClams, rybakov, allanyed and 17 others
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HMS Tiger 1747 by Siggi52 - 1:48 - 60 gun ship from NMM plans
in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Hello and many thanks for all the likes
The pissdales are now installed. The first pictures show the first one I build, but they where too small. But you could see how I build them. The next where a little larger and you see them installed.