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  1. Hello,

    I was't really active at the shipyard the last days, because of the first really spring days with 20°C and sunshine. Now we are back in the reality with 7°C and rain! But slowly the galley get ready. Today the shipwright inspected her and was satisfied.

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    So I think I could glue her fast and start with the kitchen in front of her. 

  2. Jason,

    could you please tell me where they stored cannons in the hold and where I could find that written down. Not just I know that, or I have read it somewhere.

    In most stores in the hold where barrels stored. There was not somewhere an empty space to lay down some cannons. And they need heavy gear to get them out there. Not just one man at each end and away with them. The wight of the cannons you see above in my last post. Did you think that could be done within 15-30 minutes. That was a larger task. 

     

    And yes, I know that they lashed cannons to the side. I build that already for the Dragon.

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    For the Tiger it would also work, with the help of some extra rings. To the right you see the door to the roundhouse. So, you wouldn't have many friends when you blockade it. 

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    And permanent bulwarks are permanent. See also the drawing for the 1745 establishment in my post #875

  3. Hello,

    Shipman, that where at least guard ships.

    Usually a ship of the line fitted in peacetime with part of her armament and rig and a nucleus crew, capable of acting as a floating battery for the defence of a port she was at, and also capable of being rapidly fitted out in an emergency before the ships in „Ordinary“ (reserve) became available. David Lyon

    And I don't think, that they had the rest of there cannons in the hold.

     

    I read the passage for ship guns in Muller's Treatise of Artillery fron 1768 (page 53-60) and it showed to me, that there where no shorter guns up to this time. There should come shorter guns with the next establishment. 😐 

    That meant to me I could use the guns I have build and because I show them run out, all others should not bother me.

    Here the passages that say that at least

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  4. Hello and many thanks for your thoughts,

     

    yes I know that when ships where not in use, they stored the cannons at shore. Not in the hold. And yes, when in action the cabins where dismantled and brought into the hold or in the boots, who where brought outside. But not the galley and the bulwark. At this time the bulwarks where permanent. It was a „bulwark“ in times ships where entered. I remember a picture, I think in the Kriegstein collection, with a cannon port in the doors.

     

    And yes, they where practical men, shorter cannons is the simplest solution. But did they have them, and how long where they? I know, it would be a lot of extra work 🙁 

  5. Thank you Druxey,

    but even then it is tight there. There are two cannons in front of the cabins and some ships have between them at the port side a second cabin. I chose the 9 ft cannons, because Falconer listed them for iron guns used in the sea service, according to the mensurations in 1753. And he has for every caliber only one length! 

  6. Hello and many thanks for the likes,

    but I have a serious problem. The 12 pdr 9 ft cannons are too long! If they are secured inside, nobody could pass without being an artist. And this is a very often used way to the head.

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    The Armstrong design has 3 lengths for 12 pdr's, 7,5, 8,5 and 9 feet. In the next picture I used a 7,5 ft cannon

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    and here the 8,5 ft cannon. From the aspect of space I would prefer the 7,5 ft cannon

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    Also for the cabins, the 9 ft cannon would be an obstacle. 

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    So my question: did anywhere know if they had these cannons at that time? At least the 7.5 ft 12 pdr? Many thanks in advance.

  7. Hello,

    the carpenters fished mostly the cabins and the painter painted them. They will get now some free days till Eastern, but the shipwright has to think about the galley. Some bricks are ordered, but there are some more questions to solve. 

     

    If you want to find the dust, make a picture 😄 

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