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Thanks John and Ben, and also all of those who "liked" my earlier posts. I mentioned previously that in re-doing the yards, I had decided that the parrals for the Topgallant were too large, so a visit to the local beading shop turned up some nice very small beads, and with the aid of Turbo CAD, I redrafted some patterns for the parral ribs at a more appropriate size, printed them on sticky label paper and stuck them onto some 1/64" boxwood stock: I then drilled the holes for the parral ropes and filed the general "B" shape into them using first a triangular file, and then a round file: The resultant ribs look like this: And beside their big brothers for the Topsail yard: And here they are ready to go:
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gjdale replied to mikec's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Mike, This also from Lees (pg62): "Halliards were used for hoisting up the flags. Usually a sheave was fitted on each side of the truck and the Halliards hitched to any convenient point on the bulwarks". He also mentions that this arrangement was common to Fore, Main and Mizzen masts. Cheers, Grant -
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gjdale replied to mikec's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Hi Mike, Really nice work on the davits my friend! I may (read definitely will) copy your method with these. Re your flag attachment question,I would simply make the halyard in a similar fashion, with a loop in one end and a toggle in the other, making attachment of the flag quick and easy, and being able to secure on itself when the flag is not in use. I think I said in a previous post that my understanding is that the haliards were rove through sheaves in the mast trucks. The only refernce for this I can find in Longridge is on pg 182 (about the middle of the last paragraph). He is describing the making of the Fore topgallant mast and says, "... then fit the truck...and bore in it two small holes for the flag haliard." Hope this helps. -
Thanks Bug and Mike, it's nice to know I'm not the only klutz in the class! Mike - that looks like an interesting fix. I considered using a brass pin, but was just too scared to start trying to drill more holes in situ, especially with rope in the way. Clearly, you found a way to do so! So far, the epoxy repair looks to be holding up well - I have a lot more confidence in this joint than I would using CA or other glue types - and the repair itself is hardly noticeable. I managed to get the Fore lower yard reinstalled yesterday, but was dragged off to take the Admiral out for dinner before I could take extra photos and post pics for an update. It seemed a little easier doing this the second time around (rigging, not dinner, that is ). I guess it's the benefit of all that practice! One thing I did discover in re-doing this bit though. Re-reading Longridge's instructions on belaying, I realised that the kit had completely neglected to use/provide Kevel blocks, incorrectly belaying the lower lifts directly to the timber heads instead. Guess I'll be making a few of those today (nine in total required by my count). I have a cunning plan.................... I will try to ensure a full pictorial update tonight before you-know-who comes bashing on the door.
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Yep, me too Anja! It's a New Year - time to get back in the shipyard, tell Sjors to move over (after he's made the coffee), and get on with your lovely build. Looking forward to an update soon
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Very nice work on the pumps Bug, very nice indeed!
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Very nicely done Augie - looking really sharp.
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Thanks Lawrence, Patrick and Colin, Got distracted with household duties yesterday, but did manage to finish off the new parrals. All fore and main yards now ready for fitting - hopefully today.
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Sean, Patrick is right, you'll need to complete the outer hull planking before you install the guns, otherwise they will get in the way while you're trying to plank. If you insist on using those metal gunport frames, you should be able to locate your gunport frames correctly by dry-fitting the decks temporarily and using a made up canon as a height check. Just remember to make allowance for the thickness of the deck planking and you should be okay. Hope this makes sense.
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Okay Sean, not sure if I understand your question about "frames and planking". Are you referring to gun port frames and inner bulwark planking? If so, you will need to install both of these before installing the guns. If you are going to rig the gun tackle, you will need to provide your own blocks as the kit does not provide for rigging any of the guns. You'll need 2mm blocks for this and some eye bolts and rigging thread to suit. If I've misunderstood your question, can you rephrase it please?
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Looking good Mobbsie. Those catharpins look really swish.
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Sean, This is the point where you really need to depart from the sequence in the instructions. Whatever your intention is for finishing this section of deck, you need to do it now, and fix the cannons in place. Personally, I would not bother attaching rigging to those that will be out of view once the quarter and poop decks go on, but that's your choice.
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Thank you one and all for the sympathy/empathy (for those who have been here themselves!) and general good wishes for the repair. I'm pleased to report that the bosun has done a thorough inspection of the repair job and declared it fit for sea (sorry, no pics yet). All of the Fore and Main yards have now been re-fitted to include Brace Pendants, and the Fore and Main lower yards have been fitted with long tackle blocks for the Yard Tackle Pendants. Additional tricing line blocks will be added to the shrouds prior to re-installation of the yards. While I had the yards off again, I decided to revisit the parrals for the top gallant yards. I decided that the previously made parral ribs were over scale for the topgallants, as were the beads used for the parral trucks. So, I bought some new beads today from a local beading supply shop, and made some new, smaller parral ribs for the top gallant yards. I'll post some pics of these, along with the method of making them, tomorrow. B.E. - thanks for the extra info re Yard Tackle Blocks - now I think you're just messing with my head I had all but made up my mind to show these triced up, and now you show me pics of them secured to the channel.......... I also note the absence of Brace Pendants in these pics....... At least the pics are consistent with the book. Dafi - extracts from ships log: "05 Jan 2014. Fore Topgallant Mast sprung as a result of lighting strike. Fished the mast where it was wounded. Employed people to repair the rigging." "06 Jan 2014. Fore Topgallant Mast repairs surveyed and deemed fit for sea. Double rum ration issued to bosun and carpenter's crew."
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That depends on how they are fixed in place Sean. If you've used a PVA glue, apply some isopropyl alcohol to the joint using a paint brush. This will soften the glue fairly quickly and you should be able to remove the part with no problems. If you've used a CA type glue, then the same procedure using acetone should do the trick.
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Just when you think you're making progress, nature has a way of sneaking up and biting you in the backside! Having had such a useful discussion on Yard Tackle Pendants and Brace Pendants, I decided I would remove the previously installed Foremast Yards and re-do these items - no big deal............I thought............ As I was turning the model around to gain access to undo some of the yard rigging, I very cleverly managed to catch the fore royal stay on the end of my lamp, which resulted in snapping off the upper part of the fore top gallant mast. Many rude words were said out loud - enough to bring the Admiral at the rush, thinking I'd managed to inflict serious bodily injury! Here's what it looked like: After carefully completing the removal of the yards, I was able to examine the break. Of course it happened at the weakest point, where a hole had been drilled through the mast to reeve one of the stays. My first thought was to insert a short brass pin into either end of the break, but the presence of the stay running right through the break prevented that avenue of repair. As all the rigging remained intact, and the pieces would sit back together quite well under the tension of the rigging, I decided to attempt the repair by flooding the joint with two-part epoxy. I've never really trusted CA, but the epoxy will form a strong piece by itself (probably stronger than the original timber). Once the joints were together, I then dabbed some extra epoxy around the outside of the joint. So far it seems to be holding up okay. I'll conduct a further inspection in the morning, once the epoxy has fully cured, before deeming the repair a success. In the meantime, I've completed the re-rigging of the Foremast Yards, and have also prepared the Mainmast Yards in the same way, so subject to successful mast repairs, I should be able to commence shipping the yards tomorrow. I had intended to try using Gil's method of "pinning" the yards to the masts, but am now a little nervous about that...... I'll think some more on this overnight before finally deciding.
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gjdale replied to mikec's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Mike, B.E. has answered on which flags where. As far as "how" goes, I believe that haliards were run through sheaves in the Mast trucks (the bit on top of the masts). -
Hi Gil, As always your log is both informative and instructive. The "pin to mast" idea looks to be a really good one. I may just unrig my fore topsail and topgallant yards to retro fit these. As I'm now leaning towards the fitting of brace pendants, it would be easier to do this off the model anyway, so no real loss in unrigging these yards.
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Good to see progress on Aggy Sjors. Now ask your better half to get cracking on her Half Moon again!
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Sounds like you've learned the most important lesson of all Sean - if YOU aren't happy with something, rip it out and do it over, otherwise it will bug you forever! Good move on the gratings. I'm interested in hearing/seeing more about your rope walk. How some pics of the machine and the results? What design did you use? Good luck with your IT exam. Your ship will wait patiently for your return, and so will we.
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