Keith Black

Roger, from the bottom of my heart, "thank you". I appreciate you taking the time to put into words what I feel is/or what should be the essence of the MSW experience...........Keith

My deepest sympathies for your loss, my your mother rest in peace.

Ken, I apologize for the above comment. I thought you had left MSW for SOS because of MSW's policy on piracy. I'll delete that portion of my post should it be felt that doing so severs in the best interest of the MSW community. But I stand by my statement "It's a shame when folks refuse to accept the obvious." I am a MSW/NGR member and by being a member it can be safely assumed that I support the policies of MSW/NGR. The assumption can also be made that members of SOS support SOS policies. One of SOS's policies is that pirated kits are acceptable.

A perfect example of how some of the discussions go between my dear wife and I.

MFS, those are the ones I spotted as well. I think 18mm is spot on. How tall are the doors on the house you made?

Bob, with all due respect......please back up to post #45 when Ab said "This model was scratch-built from plans from the book 'Risse von Schiffe des 16. und 17. Jahrhunderts' by (among others) Rolf Hoeckel." The model had clearly been identified as a kit in post #37. Ab then followed up in post #51 saying "I just wanted to show you that models like this one may look interesting to a layman, but in fact they are simply rubbish." Even I took exception to this because it smacked of being judgmental. The purpose of the build logs as I understand them to be, is a place to show one's efforts on a given subject/project. Rookies like myself look over the shoulders of the master builders to learn and the master builders drop in occasionally to a rookies build log to offer sage advise and encouragement. I think MSW works extremely well in that regard. Everyone needs to be encouraged and taught the correct way to do something with respect, that applies to every builder here whatever the level of their talent might be. Bob, an inordinate amount of MSW bandwidth is spent on projects that bore me to tears but I hope I'm booted out of MSW on my ear should I EVER drop into one of those build logs and say an unkind thing about that person's work. "For those who are seeking affirmation and pats on the back, there's another well-known ship modeling forum on the internet that operates on the Special Olympics "Everybody Gets a Prize" model"....... Bob. we all need pats on the back. A son needs to be patted on the back by his father. A daughter by her mother. A novice by the master. This is what helps us grow to become good people, this is how we grow into becoming a good group, IMHO.

MSF, at 1:110, 6.6 foot tall wheel = 16.764mm. a 7 foot tall wheel = 17.78mm.......I think? Someone please check my math. If my math is correct, a 20mm tall wheel would be 7.5 feet. That's a huge wheel. Were it I, I'd lean more toward the 16mm wheel with 18mm being the max. But as I said, someone please check my math.

Amen.

Chuck, thank you. I hope the door knob didn't hit Ken in the backside when he left the building. It's a shame when folks refuse to accept the obvious.

MFS, 18/20mm looks about right. Were it I, I wouldn't go below 16mm and not above 20mm. The house looks nice.

Michael, I couldn't find that a hard copy of the thesis is available. This maybe something you have do yourself through FedEx Office Print & Go or Office Depot. I did come across the link below....... https://maineboats.com/print/issue-156/drawing-board-new-catboat-project

Oh, hold on there mate. Let's not be hasty lest you/we lose the opportunity to have a bit of merriment. Having said that, I'm a buyer of your worthless model should you tire of the steady rain.

The "kit" plans in post #37 clearly show fire buckets historically correct or not. I'm uncertain as to why folks want to attribute this model to anything other than a kit?

Michael, gorgeous half hull.

Why take the chance? I've used paint thinner on many restoration projects and I have enough confidence to saturate the heck out of glued wood (including model ships) and have never had the glue fail due to it's use. Maybe I've been lucky? That's why I said, "use the paint thinner sparingly". Paint thinner is pretty mild, I'll wash my hands in paint thinner. But paint stripper on the other hand is by it's very caustic. Since my first experience using paint stripper eons ago as a kid and the resulting burned skin, now, I always glove up when using it. A museum conservator/restoration expert probably blanches upon hearing paint thinner being used as a cleaner. They have to be very conservative in their restoration efforts as they should be when dealing with priceless and irreplaceable antiquities. I think most use nothing more than spit on a Q-tip and countless hours of gentle wiping.

Ken, are you familiar with the following and SOS's acceptance of pirate kit manufactures?

I wouldn't do that were it I, one doesn't know how the stripper might react with the glue. The level of restoration of any object falls to the current caretakers desires. That ole saw, "it's only original once" is an apt guide for all restorations. Repair the broken bits, by all means. Replace the missing bits, only if in doing so one does not try to pass off the replaced as original. Respect the original builders vision, paint and all. One should look beyond just today but also keep in mind fifty, a hundred, two hundred years in the future and how the then current caretakers decisions will be affected by what one does now. But then I do prattle on, sorry.........KB

Simon, welcome to MSW and the world of model ship building.

I've great success cleaning using Q-tips and paint thinner. Don't be stingy with the Q-tips but use the paint thinner sparingly. You don't want to saturate the Q-tip, just moisten it. Henry, it's a nice looking model (there is too much detail for this to be a decorative model IMHO) and deserves to be brought back to it's former glory. The best to you in your efforts.

And that what I sought to convey, to use their efforts as a guide, not to necessarily replicate their work. MFS, I wish you only the best in the restoration of your father's model. If there is something you think I might be able to help you with, please ask.

Unfortunately one can't give a thumps up and a laugh emoji for the same post, Michael but your quote above is funny I don't care who you are. Your work is every bit as amazing, we're blessed to have some truly gifted artist/craftsman here in MSW of which you are one.

Pat, welcome to MSW. This past weeks events in Texas make me glad my ship sailed from that part of the world ( Midway and George Bush) years ago. I hope you and yours are fairing well in light of the difficult conditions faced by so many in Texas.

Mic, welcome to MSW. Tie up and enjoy your stay.

Ekis, you need to set up a couple of trail cams to capture the images of the fairies when they move in. Your work brings out my inner child's delight in the discovery of a world where each footstep opens to dreams and never ending possibilities.

Dan, $250.00 in 1956 = $2,404.25 today.