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Bob - wow, thats an amazing paint job on the stern moldings, very nice indeed. I don't know what is reflected in the instructions but looking at your previous post and the photos above it appears that the molding is in line with the plans, but what seems to be missing is some addition detail beneath the large molded piece (where you've painted red,and also above the port & s'bd windows) - are there more pieces to go in there?
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Hi Eamonn, not entering the competition, never attended anything like this before so should be an experience (though when I come to think of it, maybe a few rubber bands and pins could help sway judges). Should be nice to get some suggestions and feedback as well from the more experienced crew there (you know, those questions one is too embarrassed to ask ), seem to be a fair few MSW-ers going as well.
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Finished up making the wire strops for the top deadeys, usual pins and excess wood making up the jig. Went with a slightly shorter version than my first mock up as some hooks from a 'Badger' photo-etch kit I'd ordered last year were used (unfortunately none of the supplied PE strops fitted the 3mm deadeyes). Once bent a spot of CA was used to close any remaining gaps and a coat of paint applied. These were then epoxied into the tops so the top mast shroud tensions don't cause any knock-on complications. Completed one set of futtock shrouds to see if everything would work OK before continuing, and pretty happy with the results. Given that I'm planning on taking Snake to the Connecticut model ship show, I'm only going to finish up the other futtock shrouds and various small repair/touch-up jobs for now. Am planning to start on the various spars once thats complete and get these finished before installing any of the top and topgallant masts as these would be an accident waiting to happen I suspect.
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Looking great Stergios. If you're not planning to already, I'd suggest getting the staghorns and bulwark cleats installed sooner rather than later as this will get trickier as the deck fills up, the ones near the aft platform are probably the most challenging. Forgive me for posting the photo below, but shows what I'm talking about.
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Congratulations Mobbsie, officially reached the holy grail of 'museum quality'. Great stuff.
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Bob, nice shots of the stern and great progress. I'd second Alistair's recommendation to use the letraset approach, its nice because it has more authentic 'painted on' look to it, to the brass etch always look rather to pronounced. I used these on Snake and would take the same approach again. The other advantage, you get plenty of letters, and if you mess up, they can be rubbed off easily and then you simply have another go. I was initially worried about letters being gold, but IMHO it doesn't call atttention to itself when next to the yellow ochre. Its all opinion though, and it'll look great whichever way you decide to go.
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Thanks for the great detailed photos Jim, stand (and all) looks fantastic. Hope mine turn out as good. Very basic question, did you just belay the lines to the pins or tie with some kind of knot?
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Rob - very nice start on Pickle. Did want to ask you about your HMS Cottesmore model, would love to see pictures - was that from a kit or scratchbuild? Wondering if you've ever come across any kits of their replacement the River Class?
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Looks great. Can't wait until you show us it going in the bottle, fascinating process. Thanks for sharing!
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Ferit, Eamon, B.E., Timmo - cheers guys! Still proceeding at a snails pace. Following picture for the benefit of other Snake builders. The block on the foremast for the maintopmast preventer stay could very easily interfere with catharpins on foremast shrouds, felt a bit lucky that I didn't run afoul of this, the positioning of the futtock stave is important as the block couldn't move any higher because of the mast cheeks. One more catharpin to go on foremast (which I'm remaking again because it didn't fit....)
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You should also wait for confirmation that it is also the correct ship from the person who posted...
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Interesting comment on the deck material Eammon, I thought Caldercraft supplied Tanganyika for all of their ships decks. Lime wouldn't be my choice for the decks.
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Echoing what everyone has already said, shes simply stunning Timmo, outside views really show her off. Given your experience on this, would you consider using a different wood other than walnut next time? Walnut just seems so hard to work with sometimes, but it can give nice wood tone as you've shown. The underwater paint looks perfect as well.
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I used PVA wherever possible on untreated wood, but in a number of spots CA is necessary because the surfaces were sealed (either paint or varnish). I used CA for the ladders, but had finished them with matt varnish beforehand, otherwise I've noticed that that CA glue can seep into the wood grain and it leaves unfixable dark patches. Thick CA is my preference as it tends to take the longest to set so maybe gives you a few more micro-seconds to adjust things
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You seem to have it thought out Stergios, its definitely a tedious process but feels so good when complete. The technique that worked best for me was to make up the tackles off the ship first (loosely), attach and then gradually tighten. You are right, there is a lot of wasteage of the thread between attaching the hooks and the actual tackle, but its better to be safe than sorry as its not a big expense.
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Hi Jim, very nice shots. I followed the Petersson approach around the hearts and seized them - if I can justifiably go with seizing I'll take it every time You should have no worries about me catching you up
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You've got a very nice smooth run for the planking Sjors, looks great. At the stern I wonder if you think you will use a filler block for the awkward angle? Hope you have a lot of fun with the cannons, you can put a lot of detail on those.
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Hamilton - Cheers mate. I don't have Lees, Lever indicates that when used, the cross catharpins would be installed in addition to the catharpins going athwartship, basically forming an 'X' so that the starboard foremost shroud is catharpined to the aftmost larboard shroud and vice versa. If I ever build HMS Surprise, she will have to have cross-catharpins . I'm growing to love the Lever's Young Sea Officers sheet anchor and am following the order outlined there so far. On your second question, I'm probably going to go with the wire and use epoxy again to secure them, but as usual will reserve final judgement until necessary. Quick additional update on progress...main mast catharpins are all on. Pederson has a nice picture showing that these would have been lashed to the futtock stave with thinner line. Its not really practical at this scale, so I sort of got thesame result by threading the eye with two pieces of thread to try and keep the catharpin in line with the shroud. Pretty happy with the way things turned out (and not a pin or rubber band in sight).
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@Nigel - Boy, I hope I don't sound whiney! Unfortunately seeking perfection is in my character, I know I'll never get there but doesn't seem to stop me banging my head sometimes...of course the challenge is part of the fun @Scott - you found my secret! @Jim - Think there are a couple of answers, and I'm sure the serving 'masters' out there could provide more tips as well. For the stays, I created the served eye on one end (per method below which Andy put me on to) and then attached the mouse in what seemed the right spot. The serving then was done in one go starting at the eye toward the mouse, over the mouse, and then terminated a 'suitable' distance - Lever says this discretionary and who am I to argue. As far as the catharpins go, hopefully the following diagram makes sense. Either way, you need to know the dimensions of what you looking to achieve beforehand. One technique that works well is to mock up the element you want to create with light (similar thickness) thread, you can then mark the part that need to be served and go from there. Unfortunately, however well planned, there is always room for discrepancy and there have been plenty of times where the end result is a little to long or short and its back to the start - probably gets better with practice, but seems to be part of the territory. The approach below can probably be applied to any rigging element, just requires planning and forethought. The catharpins were made in same way as the burton pendants. What work for me is to figure out the length I'll need and then use two 'pins' with which to create the eyes the set distance apart to help ensure consistency. Photo at the bottom are the catharpins in an early stage (I didn't bother serving the eyes for these as it they wouldn't be really visibly, this save quite a bit of time and risk of error).
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Inspirational work Gil, I wish I had known about MSW when I was still living in Seattle given that there is such a great bunch of modelers in the area - I've been following your Victory for quite some time.
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