Bomb Vessel Granado by Rustyj - FINISHED - 1:24 - cross-section

[WackoWolf]

Rusty,

 

     Grant has made a good point. You need to have control over what you are turning. Your also going to find that you will be making your own turning tools, which is easy. I agree with the point of how much metal will I turn, well once you got a metal lathe you will find that you will be turning more than you had though you would. Just MHO.

[mtaylor]

Rusty,

 

I never turned anything until I got my lathe.  One just has to change one's way of thinking to use it.  At least I did.  It works for wood and metal and I'm still figuring it out.  To be honest, I wouldn't want to go back to a drill press or a dremel and files. 

[WackoWolf]

Rusty,

 

   I forgot one thing in the PM I sent back to you. Get some books and join the "Yahoo Sherline Group" they are also a big help. The best way to learn is by doing, trial and error, make chips and dust. Remember wood is cheap to learn on, bass wood is very cheap to learn with and then move on from there to other types of wood. There is a difference between soft and hard wood, and fast is not always the answer, you will see.

Edited December 29, 2013 by WackoWolf

[Rustyj]

Thanks Joe and Mark.

[Timothy Wood]

Rusty,

 

She is really looking good, and you are very talented craftsman!  I look forward to watching more of your build.

 

Tim

[Rustyj]

Thanks for your kind words Tim.

 

The sheer rails have been added as well as some of the cleats the plans call for.

Next I have to make a bunch of ring bolts and then the gun carriages. No Guns

yet but I might as well as start on the carriages

 

 

 

Also the quest for a lathe continues. I have ordered the Tabletop Machining

book by Joe Martin and will read up on lathe usage as well as annoying some

of you with dumb questions.

[mtaylor]

Annoy away, Rusty.  We've been warned.   Looking super nice, awe inspiring work.

[gjdale]

I see a Sherline in your future

[WackoWolf]

Ask all the questions you have, even though I haven't use the Lathe much I do have books and will try and help in anyway I can. I can always try what your asking about with my lathe and see how it turns out and then maybe be able to answer your question.

The book is very very good, I seem to go back to it more and more for tips, I am sure you will like it. In fact I just order the 10,000 rpm pulley setup and some spare belts yesterday from Sherline.

Edited December 31, 2013 by WackoWolf

[fnkershner]

Rusty - You may have mentioned it before and I can't find it. What woods did you use for your hatch in the last picture above?

[Rustyj]

Thanks Mark. Beware of what you ask!

 

Hi Grant, Yes I’ve been convinced that if I am going to get a lathe it will be a Sherline.

 

Thanks Joe.

 

Floyd. The hatch framing is swiss pear and the hatch boards are boxwood.

 

Ok as I said at some point I will obtain a Sherline lathe. Because of size constraints I am

leaning towards the Sherline Model 4000 3.5" x 8" (overall length 24”) lathe as opposed

to the Sherline 4400 3.5" x 17" (overall length 32”) lathe. That extra 8” footprint would

eat up a lot of space though the added distance between centers could come in handy.

 

I guess the first item is to figure out is the size. 8” center or 17”. 

 

So what do you think?

[garyshipwright]

Hi Rusty. If you go for the 17" you just might want to look in to getting the power feed. Saves a lot on the wrist. You could always get the 8 inch and then when you really feel like you need  the 17" bed, you can always upgrade it at much smaller cost, that is unless you can talk Sherline in to a good price on the 17.      

Gary 

[Rustyj]

Thanks Gary, very much appreciated. I am off to read about power feeds.

[gjdale]

Great decision to go with the Sherline Rusty, you won't regret it.

 

As for size, it's very much a personal decision. I went with the longer bed "just in case" on the basis that if I didn't end up needing the extra length then nothing lost, but if I'd gone the other way,........... Also, space wasn't an issue for me.

 

Of course, you're going to become addicted to adding accessories now too!

[Trussben]

Ahhhh Rusty!!!!

 

As sherline lathe is in my future at some point I will consider it a good omen that you will take the first plunge, I haven't used a metal lathe in 20 years but I have a lot of experience with my wood turning lathe and there are just some things, especially small items that are very difficult to do which is where the metal lathe come in.

Don't forget a four jaw chuck if you plan on doing proper masts on it.

 

Ben

[Rustyj]

Happy New Year to all of you!

 

Hi Grant, Like I’ll have any issues wanting to get more accessories! OK I’ve been looking at the 

three and four jaw chucks and I realize that I will eventually need both types. The one thing I am

unsure about is if the self centering chucks are better than the regular jaws chucks. From what

I’ve read self centering is nice and handy but the independent jaws allow for more “accuracy”.

What types do you use?

 

Hi Ben, Thanks for stopping by. As I said above I will get a 4 jaw chuck just not sure which type

yet. You know you don’t have to wait. We can take that plunge together!

 

OK onto the fun stuff.

 

Here is the starboard side with all the assorted ring bolts in place. I made them from some 20 gauge

wire I had on hand.

 

 

I also figured I don’t need cannon barrels to make the carriages so I started on them. They are

made from swiss pear. I made two just in case I decided to add a second cannon. I figured it was

easier to make them together instead of having to go back and make a second one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[augie]

Sometimes I forget just how big your rendition is.  Looking at carriages just reminded me.

 

Beautiful work on the eyebolts and cleats as well.

[Paddy]

A joy to watch your progress.

 

May your New Year be filled with many blessings.

[gjdale]

Beautiful work as always Rusty.

 

Re self-centering vs independent chucks, I'm a rank beginner with all this machinery so can't really offer an opinion of experience. The "experts" all seem to reckon that the independent jaws are more accurate. So far, I've only used self-centering ones, but as I said my experience is very limited.

[WackoWolf]

If you are going to be using odd shape stock then the "independent" chuck is the way to go, thats why it is best if you can afford to get both, since you are not always going to have odd shape stock but when you do you have the right chuck to use. Just my option, and I am not an expert.

[rafine]

Rusty, I know nothing at all about lathes, but I do know that those carriages are as good as it gets. It would be a shame not to use them both.

 

Bob

[ChrisLBren]

Looks sweet Rusty - please keep us posted on your experience with the Sherline - i think thats my next must buy tool along with a Byrnes disc sander.

 

If I can just get some time to finish up the head rails on Confederacy….. 

[Rustyj]

Thanks for all your visits, likes and comments.

 

Thanks Augie. Yeah I constantly go huh when I measure the plans and it calls for a piece to be ¼” thick x ½” wide!

 

Thank you Paddy and the same to you and yours!

 

Grant and Joe, I’m only on chucks and already its self centering or not, 2” or 3”, get a combination of both, man talk

about sensory overload. And this is only the start. I haven’t even looked at the other 100 options!

 

Thanks Bob, Yeah if all goes well once I make the barrels I’m sure I’ll use both of them. I also noticed that they

don’t show the blocks or line. Gotta figure out what sizes they should be!

 

Thanks Chris. I can speak to the disk sander and for scratch work I wouldn’t be without it. I’m just glad to see you

can get some time to spend on the Confederacy with those cute kids of yours.

 

Here are the plans for the mortar carriage and the pieces cut from swiss pear and ready for shaping.

 

 

 

[Rustyj]

Hi all, Thanks for stopping by and all the likes!

 

It’s really nice having a couple of days off with no obligations. You can really get some fun

stuff done. I assembled the main mortar carriage. It was pretty straight forward and like

the deck and beams below, very thick and rugged.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have held off on the cap square and hinge until I have a cannon to match it to.

 

Now looking ahead to the chain plates here are two pictures showing how the plans depict them.

 

 

 

My question to you is would they be like that or would they be “links” like I did on the Confederacy?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

[AntonyUK]

Hi Rusty.

Happy new year Rusty.

 

Absolute spotless workmanship m8

I love the carriages. Very nice.

 

Regards Antony.

[garyshipwright]

Hi Rusty. I do believe they are done as shown in you plan. The NMM plan of Grandado show's them that way. Nice build sir. Gary

[Rustyj]

Hi Antony, Thanks and a Happy New Year to you!

 

Gary, thank you so much for that information and your kind words.

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Really wonderful and precise work.

[Rustyj]

Thank you so much Christian.

[Rustyj]

I kinda shifted gears and decided to make the entry steps. They are cut from

swiss pear using the Byrne’s table saw.

 

 

 

 

 

I clamped a ruler to the hull where they were located to keep a straight line

and assist with the spacing.