HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - cross-section - from TFFM books

[albert]

Hi Danny wonderful work

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you Greg and Albert .

 

In case you thought I hadn't been doing much lately (yeah, a bit of "life" did get in the way ) I've cut all the frame pieces. Who'd have thought there were THIS many just for a little cross-section :

 

 

  Danny

[Jim Lad]

Looks like you're having fun. Danny!

 

John

[RichardG]

 

Speaking of spacing, I've followed The Framing Disposition plan I got from the NMM. The spacings aren't even on the plan, some are 2 1/4" scale inches different to others, making them LOOK wrong even though they are correct.

 

 

That's going to be interesting when people see it. They'll be wondering if it would be rude to mention that the spacing is off  .

 

I'm looking forward to seeing this build. A cross-section is my next project (if I can ever get my cutter finished!).

 

Richard. 

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks John and Richard.

 

That's going to be interesting when people see it. They'll be wondering if it would be rude to mention that the spacing is off

 

 

I'm going to include a Disclaimer next to the model .

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Looks like you're having fun. Danny!

 

John

G'day John, your definition of fun and mine are different. Lol.

Well, Danny, I'm assuming that's fun for you as well. So keep on having fun mate.

Havagoodone

Greg

[Dan Vadas]

I'm getting there - 10 frames glued together, 7 left to go. To hold each frame in position I use double-sided tape to stick it to the template, and then hair clips to keep the joint tight until it dries. Like I did with the full model, I'm using scarph joints in the port side and chocks in the open starboard side :

 

 

 

  Danny

[Jim Lad]

All looking very neat, Danny.

 

John

[Trussben]

Nice looking bunch of frames there Danny.

 

Ben

[dgbot]

Lovely looking frames Danny.  It will be a shame to cover them up.

David B

Edited November 13, 2015 by dgbot

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Danny

It's so good mate, as we say in Oz, "It's just like a bought one!"

Like your idea to make the ribs so need!

Haveagreatone mate

Greg

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you John, Ben, David and Greg.

 

All the frames have been assembled, now I can start fitting them to the keel.

 

I started by gluing the three Deadflat frames together, using spacers and Fillers of the appropriate thickness :

 

 

 

Then I set the assembly up on the board, using the acrylic square I built for Vulture's frames. A little bit of finessing on the slots for the keel was needed to get a good tight fit. The board and square, and also the two temporary supports, ensure that each frame goes up correctly :

 

 

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Danny

I've got a dumb question for you. What's the difference between the dead flat frames vs the other? Aren't they all the same except slightly different shape?

Looks good to me what you have done anyway!

Havagooday mate

Greg

[GLakie]

I like that squaring jig you tooled up Danny. Handy little tool!  I can think of a bunch of uses for it. 

[Dan Vadas]

What's the difference between the dead flat frames vs the other?

 

 

The Deadflat frames are those in the centre of the ship. All the others are of a diminishing size in one area or another going either forward or aft.

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Thanks Danny

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure. Told you it was a BUMB question!

Cheers

Greg

[src]

Dan,

That looks really good!

I am not sure how to ask this question but here goes.

I can see how your jig keeps you square to the keel (looking from a plan view) as well as plumb (looking from a port/starboard elevation) but what about keeping the tops of the frames the same height as in looking from a bow on view? Am I making sense?

Sam

[rth385]

Hi Danny,

How come my frames don't look like that?

Regards,

Russell

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks for the comments Greg, Sam and Russell .

 

but what about keeping the tops of the frames the same height as in looking from a bow on view?

 

 

The height is set when I cut the frames using the templates. I've allowed an extra 2mm just in case. I'll trim them to the correct height when they are all fitted.

 

How come my frames don't look like that?

 

 

Maybe because you're building a different ship Russell?

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Hahaha. That's our Ozzie sence of humour Danny! Well said.

Havagooday mate

Greg

[src]

Thanks Dan, I dont think I put my question correctly, what keeps them from rolling (pitching?) side to side? I dont see what keeps the entire assembly from tilting to one side or the other. D@mn, I know what I want to ask just dont know how to ask it!! 

Sam

Edited November 18, 2015 by src

[Dan Vadas]

I dont see what keeps the entire assembly from tilting to one side or the other.

 

 

The keel is screwed to the baseboard from underneath using the mounting nuts I previously fitted to the keel. It's rigid enough to stop less than a very hard push to either side. The clamps on top of the acrylic square keep things in position until each frame dries. I also make pencil marks on the tape stuck to the square to check that nothing has moved.

 

Initial setup looks a bit like this. The red arrows point to the lines I've drawn for the extreme width of each frame :

 

 

  Danny

[src]

I think I got it now, thanks

Sam

[wyz]

Ho Ho Ho and a Merry Christmas to Dan Vadas.  One of the nicest gifts the MSW community received this past year was your build log of the HMS Vulture, a true tour de force on plank-on-frame construction.  As someone with lesser skills I enjoyed it immensely and learned a lot.  Thank you.  Have a super holiday season and a fantastic 2016.  I look forward to more wonderful posts from you this year.

 

Tom

[Dan Vadas]

Belated thanks for the Xmas wishes Tom - I've been away visiting my family over the holiday and have just returned home now .

 

It seems like an age since I last updated my log (it's been over a month, but a lot of work had been done since then). My apologies for the slackness .

 

All the frames have been cut and assembled :

 

 

The frames have all been glued to the keel, and the Filler Pieces have been also fitted. Fairing the inside is shown here - first by using a drum sander on the Dremel to take off any large high areas. The rest was faired using a rounded cork sanding block :

 

 

 

As I hadn't used the mounting screws to hold the Rising Wood and the Keel together, they started to separate as I started gluing frames on, so I screwed the two pieces together through some of the frames for extra strength. The screws will be covered by the Keelson :

 

 

 

Next, the Ports were trimmed out and a long sanding stick was used to level the tops of the frames in readiness for the lower sills :

 

 

The port sills and Sweep Port sills after fitting :

 

 

And after Fairing :

 

 

The hull was then removed from the building board and placed on a piece of foam for the final external fairing :

 

 

  Danny

[GLakie]

Heck Danny, after all the work you've done over the last months, I think a little "slackness", or even an extended vacation should be allowed.  Happy Holidays to you and yours! 

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you George .

 

There's more .... I've cut out the recesses for the Chain Pumps and Elm Tree Pumps :

 

 

 

 

And also fitted the Keelson :

 

 

 

Lastly, I've made the Chain Pump Inlets using the pieces from the PE set supplied by Admiralty Models. These are probably the last of these available as the set has been discontinued and were graciously supplied by Greg Herbert from his own left-over supply. 0.5mm brass wire was used as the "bolts", and the assemblies blackened :

 

 

 

 

 

  Danny

[Jim Lad]

Just catching up, Danny - she's looking great, mate!

 

John

[dvm27]

Sweet work Danny. Those inlets fit the recesses perfectly. Are you going to leave part of the pump well unplanked so people can see details like these?

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks John and Greg.

 

Are you going to leave part of the pump well unplanked so people can see details like these?

 

 

Most certainly Greg .

 

  Danny