pete48 Posted February 8, 2016 Share #61 Posted February 8, 2016 Looks Great Erik, I am looking forward to seeing her planked Best Regards, Pete Canute, Erik W and mtaylor 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted February 8, 2016 Share #62 Posted February 8, 2016 Nice! Canute, mtaylor and Erik W 3 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #63 Posted February 12, 2016 I cut out the forward gun ports for the bow chaser cannons. Before I did this, I thinned the wood material to about 3/16" using a rough sanding drum on a Dremel. This made cutting and filing the ports to shape easier since there was less material to cut through. I used a fine tooth solid Zona saw blade and some different shaped diamond files to get the gun ports cut and shaped correctly. Erik wyz, Canute, RichardG and 20 others 23 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted February 13, 2016 Share #64 Posted February 13, 2016 Sweet, Looks good Erik Best Regards, Pete Canute, mtaylor and Erik W 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted February 13, 2016 Share #65 Posted February 13, 2016 Looking very neat & aligned properly. Good work Erik! Jesse mtaylor and Erik W 2 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share #66 Posted February 15, 2016 I carefully faired the gun ports. Some of the gun port framing wood pieces are too short, so I'll correct that by adding additional wood pieces to get them to the correct height. Since the frames will be painted, it should be an easy fix. Erik wyz, Mike Y, Rustyj and 17 others 20 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerty Posted February 16, 2016 Share #67 Posted February 16, 2016 Very Nice work Erik - look forward to following along. and beautiful 18th Century Longboat model ! mtaylor, Erik W and Canute 3 Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroak Posted February 17, 2016 Share #68 Posted February 17, 2016 Your Cheerful is looking great! Erik W, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote GREG H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted February 17, 2016 Share #69 Posted February 17, 2016 I agree, it looks great! Canute, Erik W and mtaylor 3 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share #70 Posted February 19, 2016 I cleaned up the stern frames and glued the outermost frames onto the ship. The inner 4 are just temporarily taped on so I could get a sense of how this will look. The next step involves breaking out the Dremel with a sanding drum to remove the bulk of the material on the outer stern frames, before I do the rest of the fairing by hand. Erik ggrieco, Archi, Stuntflyer and 22 others 25 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted February 19, 2016 Share #71 Posted February 19, 2016 Nice, Looks great Erik, nice work Best Regards, Pete Erik W, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share #72 Posted February 27, 2016 After much effort I got the stern framing finished, more or less. I still have more fairing to do, and more clean up. The stern gun ports were a real pain in the butt. I wound up doing one of them over 5 times! Luckily I know when to just walk away for a while or I would've launched the ship out the window! In addition to bass wood filler immediately behind the square tuck, I added some balsa filler material between that and the rearmost bulkhead. This area is tough to get faired correctly, so I figured having a solid mass of wood in there would help me visualize the run of the planks. I knew back when I faired the bulkheads that I over-faired one side of the rearmost bulkhead. I added .020" strip to the bulkhead to get the shape correct. You can see it in the top photo. My goal is to not have any surprises when I get to the planking stage. I extensively test fit planking material in every area of the stern to make sure the plank run looks good. This has been the most challenging part of the build so far. Though not perfect, I think things came out well enough. Erik gerty, pete48, rafine and 20 others 23 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted February 27, 2016 Share #73 Posted February 27, 2016 Looking very good! Had the same problem only I'm glad you were able to catch and fix the over faired area early on. Those pesky stern gun ports tested my patience as well. Mike mtaylor, Rustyj, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share #74 Posted February 27, 2016 Mike, I had payed close attention to your issues with the square tuck and over-fairing that area. I'm glad you documented that in your build log, otherwise I would've probably not payed close enough attention to what I was doing in that area. Erik Canute, mtaylor and Rustyj 3 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 27, 2016 Share #75 Posted February 27, 2016 Coming along great Erik. Bob Erik W, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share #76 Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) No new photos, but I spent the evening scrutinizing the fairing, both with my Mark 1 eyeball, and using a piece of boxwood planking material. I wound up touching up the area at the lower bow, and after test fitting planks, used a coarse sanding stick to further taper the bulkhead former at the stern from the bearding line to the rabbet strip . . . you were right Mike (Stuntflyer). On my longboat I had used Polly Scale Soo Line Red acrylic paint for the red. I have plenty of that left, but am going to experiment with Vallejo red (on scrap wood, of course). Vallejo paints from Spain are very high quality and are the best bottled acrylics I know for brushing with no brush marks or unevenness. I'll post my results here. http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/model-color/family/15 Erik Edited February 29, 2016 by Erik W Canute, Cathead, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted February 29, 2016 Share #77 Posted February 29, 2016 Erik, I have tried out both the regular and the air brush paint of Vallejo. Amazing stuff! Canute, Justin P., mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted February 29, 2016 Share #78 Posted February 29, 2016 I love your attention to detail and it shows in your work. At what point you finally say "good enough" is a choice only you can make. I think that your ability to "slow down" will result in a beautiful ship. Mike mtaylor, pete48, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share #79 Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) I picked up a bottle of Vallejo Flat Red # 70957. It's easier to get an even coat, without brush marks, than the Polly Scale paint I used on the longboat. So, I'll use this red for the bulwarks color. I got the gun ports painted. Erik Edited March 3, 2016 by Erik W Stuntflyer, ggrieco, Rustyj and 14 others 17 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted March 3, 2016 Share #80 Posted March 3, 2016 Hi Erik, Nice work the red looks good, She's really starting to take shape Besdt Regards, Pete mtaylor, Erik W and Canute 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share #81 Posted March 5, 2016 I drew the run of the wales using the tick marks on the laser cut bulkheads as a guide to pin down a batten strip. Once I was satisfied that the plank run was smooth, I drew my line. I also noticed at this point that I had made an error in over-fairing the underside of the center 4 stern frames, where the bottom of the counter meets the square tuck. So . . . I added 1/32" wood on one of the frames, 3/64" wood on the other three, and then a further .020" on the center two. Yeah, I had accidentally taken off a lot of material. I feel like I'm taking one step back with every couple steps forward sometimes. You can see the beefed up frames in the first two photos. I made sure my shims were sanded smooth and filled as necessary since these parts of the frames will be exposed on the interior. When painted they should look as if they are a single piece. Knowing modelers are fond of jury rigging. I threw in a photo of my work area showing my jig for holding the ship upside down (while addressing the stern frame issue), with a ceramic tile holding it down so it won't move . . . and the scrap wood extension I made for my lamp. This is easily the largest model I've ever worked on, so my space felt a little cramped. Erik GuntherMT, ggrieco, UpstateNY and 18 others 21 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share #82 Posted March 7, 2016 After the last bit of tweaking on the hull, I've started planking. I attached the first layer of the wales on one side. The run came out pretty well. Not perfect, but it'll do. I lightly sanded the wale, but since it will have a second layer over it, I didn't get to crazy with the sanding. I'm hoping the other side is a match. Erik pete48, Cathead, tadheus and 27 others 30 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted March 7, 2016 Share #83 Posted March 7, 2016 Very nice...smooth run for the planking to come. Nirvana, Stuntflyer, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted March 7, 2016 Share #84 Posted March 7, 2016 Hi Erik, I agree with Chuck , Looks good Best Regards, Pete JesseLee, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted March 7, 2016 Share #85 Posted March 7, 2016 Erik, If this is the second model you are building and showing us this high quality build log, I am starting wondering if you are not a pro-builder. That look so nice. Great job! JesseLee, Jack12477, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share #86 Posted March 7, 2016 Thanks for the kind words guys! Per, The other guy's building the Cheerful have set the bar high, I'm just hoping mine turns out anywhere near as well! This thing is much more complicated than the longboat. I've turned Chuck's advice into my mantra, Be patient and take my time. Also, to all who hit "Like" on my posts, thanks! As I'm sure other's have found, it's definitely motivating when I know folks are checking my work out. Erik KenW, src, Justin P. and 6 others 9 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share #87 Posted March 11, 2016 There definitely is something to be said for measuring a bunch, checking things a bunch, and taking it slowly. I've been concerned about getting the wales correct, and identical on both sides. I think I pulled it off. Both sides, to the best of my observation, have identical runs, and line up perfectly at both the bow and stern. I used the batten strip again to determine the run of the thin 3/64" x 1/16" plank that is located just below the gun ports and is higher at the forward most gun port. I drew that plank run with a pencil. Again, taking my time is key. So, in other words . . . this baby will be launched some time in 2028! Erik AnobiumPunctatum, BLACK VIKING, Dubz and 24 others 27 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted March 11, 2016 Share #88 Posted March 11, 2016 Nice job Erik Canute, Erik W and mtaylor 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alde Posted March 11, 2016 Share #89 Posted March 11, 2016 That looks great. Nice and even on both sides. Heck, 2028 is just around the corner. mtaylor, Erik W and Canute 3 Quote The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share #90 Posted March 11, 2016 Thanks Jack! Al, I figure the longer it takes, the more bang for my buck I'm getting. This book arrived in the mail today. About a third of it is dedicated to rigging an English cutter built in 1778. While not rigged in the same way as Cheerful, it is similar enough to really get a good 3 dimensional view of the rigging, as well as an understanding of how a typical cutter was rigged. Here's a link to the book's description: http://www.amazon.com/Rigging-Period-Fore---Aft-Craft/dp/159114227X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457738065&sr=8-1&keywords=rigging+period+fore Erik pete48, Jack12477, JesseLee and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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