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Greek Bireme by Robin Lous - Dusek - Scale 1:72 - First wooden ship build - FINISHED

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I'm back on the shipyard!

 

Things slowed down early december and I've done nothing at all the last 2 weeks, but now it's January and I have the time, peace of mind and energy needed to work on my build again.

 

Where was I? Ah! yep....the mast!

 

Here I go again!....more soon!

 

Robin :)

Keep going you can do it - we will all join you for a slipway lauching party :) :) :)

 

 

OC.

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Disaster struck!

 

Remember these?

 

The 23 blocks I made (I need 17 of them)....They're gone  :(

 

Today I was ready to attach the blocks to the stays and to the receiving end...on the deck and to the sides of the ship.

 

I made my coffee...cleared my (messy) workbench and was ready to do the job.

The small plastic cup (until last week) with them in front of me...on the cutting mat....with tools, glue and whatever.

 

Only difference...the cup was empty. No blocks....gone!

 

"Darling? you have an idea what happened here?"

"Those grape seeds? I threw them away if you don't mind"

"Oh...please...say that's not true"

"What?"

"My blocks!"

"Your what?"

"Took me days to make them!"

"They looked like grape seeds"

"Never mind  :( "

 

Sigh!

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Oh no!!!! Reasons why I am glad my Admiral stays out of my shipyard. We each have our own spaces that we do not mess with the stuff in there. At least this time you know how to make them so it is just the time required to build and not to design. 

 

As horrible as that is, the story did make me laugh a little. Forgive me though as I do feel your pain.

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Yeah...it's completely my own fault (so glad I put the finished oars in a box...in a drawer...a "me only" drawer), but we had an argument over it.

 

"but...I thought!?!?!"

"you can think anywhere...but please don't think in my room....just don't!...it's my little place"

"but...but  :( "

"ok...get your coat...we go to a restaurant"

"yay!"

"from now on...grape seeds are BLOCKS...at least in MY room!

"aye aye sir!"

 

It really was my own fault...my desk IS a mess! ( but it's my mess!)

 

I now ordered ready made blocks (with more "stuff" of course!)  B)

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Normally I give your posts a "like This" :) .
 
But your post N° 368 is the first one i should give a "dont like" :(  :(  :( .
 
Ik zou zeggen 
  • kin omhoog
  • borst vooruit
  • en ... nieuwe blokken maken.
  • Rome is ook niet op één dag gebouwd
 
In English :
 
I would say
  • chin up
  • chest forward
  • and ... make new blocks.
  • Rome was also not built in one day.

Good luck with the new blocks

 

ps,
 
Actually, I also had to laugh a little first (sorry)
 

 

Groetjes

Greetings

 
 
 
 

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You behaved very chivalrous, I don't know what I would have done if all my little bling blings (PE) would have vanished in thin air ...

 

It is the easy way out to get them by order now though ... not even considering to make them a new ... you know: Practice makes perfect ... ;) You could use some practice in preperation of your trireme, the other bireme, for you did make all those oars ....

 

Cheers

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The wooden blocks arrived today! 

My more or less forced break didn't stop me from buying stuff left right and centre.  :D

 

More books...can't have enough books! Name plate and extra cannons for the Kolderstock Duyfken, drill bits and a resin ship's boat....also for the Duyfken. Last but not least...a "Keep calm and carry on" poster. For the fun of it and to remind myself of my shipyard duties.  :rolleyes:

 

The wooden blocks are very nice, but I still need to shape them a bit to what I need.

Bigger hole, they're a bit too thick, so I'll sand them down to the required thickness and I'll sand them to the teardrop shape I need. Probably more work then remake the lost ones from plastic sheet, but I guess plastic bits are frowned upon, so it's okey.

 

Back on the job now!

 

Robin :)

 

 

 

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Hey Robin,

 

Didn't have a look at your Bireme build until now. Looking good.  I made a Bireme as well for my son (ho studied archeology) and than started a scratch trireme in the same scale. This turned out to be a huge thing of about 1 meter length.

Picture of how far I am now:

 

 

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Have read the complete thread to the last posting........now I set with baited breath to see the next photo of your build.

I am about to start a Dusek Cog.  I pray to the build Gods I do half as good of job as you have.  You have mad skills my friend.

Cheers Rick

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Robin was bitten by the Photo Bucket ransom that requires a huge fee to be able to share your photos to a 3rd party (MSW). 

He hasn't posted in a while. Hope he is okay and everything. :)

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Hello guys,

 

Sorry about me being mia for a while. 

I had a "frustration break", I lost momentum when these blocks disappeared from my desk.

It's also very sad what Photobucket did...I won't pay $400 per year to show my photo's on a forum, but it ruined this topic big time.:(

I still have all the photo's of course, sadly not here anymore.

 

It's back on my bench now, so...more soon!

 

Robin:)

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I tried to edit my previous posts to add all the photo's again.

That worked for the last couple of pages, but at some point it says I can't edit a post because it's too old. Such a pitty.

 

When someone like to see older photo's...give me a shout and I'll show them in a new reply.

Damn you Photobucket! :default_wallbash:

 

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Robin,

 

Good to have you wandering in again. With reference to the missing pictures, you could make a composition of most previous (missing) pictures  to show what you've done ... just an idea ...

 

Looking forward to some progress,

 

cheers mate

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Thanks guys! 

Apart from the photo's taken during my vacation last year on the first 2 pages and 2 others down the road all photos are back!

Uploaded them to the forum and put them in the right posts (I hope)...I hate untidy topics! :rolleyes:

 

Was fun to read the whole thing again. Small ship on a long and exciting journey!

 

Robin:)

 

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A new plan de campagne...What's left to do?

 

-The haunted blocks, I'll make them again and store them behind barbed wire and a minefield until I need them.

- Attach the yard and do the rigging.

-The 2 steering oars.

-The ladder.

-A temporary base to place the oars neatly.

-Place the oars.

-The ram.

-Other stuff I can't think of right now.:P

 

I presume it's best to start with a couple of fun jobs...the first will be the ram!

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The copper sheet after a year outside....after cleaning. It was completely covered under a thick layer of dirt.

Nice natural patina! 

 

Well...here I go again! More soon!

 

Robin :)

 

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Don't you run the risk of getting that lovely coppery shine back on the ram once you start bending, and shaping ...

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Probably a bit, but it's fairly easy to stain copper with chemicals, so I can always create new or more weathering.

The construction of the ram is very basic.

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I use this 1st century AD bireme ram found on the bottom of the Black Sea as an example.

I'll clad the sides of the ram with copper sheet and a strip with folded sides like on this photo to cover the edge and tip of the ram.

This simple (cheap and lightweight) design was probably most used on light ships....like mine. :)

 

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Even though I had this little monster sitting in front of me for ages...I never took notice of how small the ram actually is.

It's just 3 centimeters long! :o

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So I grossly overcomplicated my ram construction plan. What I had in mind is plain silly for this tiny little ram!

Yesterday I ordered a sheet of 0,2 mm thick bronze to replace the copper I have now.

When I get it I cut a strip that goes over the ram from the bow to the keel and I'll clad the sides with it...that's it.

Folding the edges...I skip that idea...the thing is just too small for that.

I also ordered ammonium chloride to get that typical weathered bronze green patina, but maybe it's nicer to leave the bronze as it is.

To be decided.

 

So still nothing to show, but I found the missing photo's, so the topic is now tidy again. 

 

Robin :)

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Yesterday the admiral picked up the bronze sheet for me, but I sadly can't use it.

Only 0,2 mm thick, but it's way to stiff too work with, so I'll use copper sheet.

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I cut the strip that goes over the ram and made a rough template to cut the sides.

I make the ram slightly longer and give it a square tip.

 

More soon!

 

Robin :)

 

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And...the template was a bad idea after all, because the root of the ram need to follow the shape of the bow. Forgot about that.:huh:

 

So, a different approach...

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An oversized sheet of copper and shape it to match the bow...one side at the time.

Glued in place...when the glue is set, I'll cut off the excess material and do the other side.

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This will take several hours, so I have the evening off. :rolleyes:

 

So far so good...and by the way... since the copper is so easy to bend and shape (0,15 mm thick), I'll make a new...wider...strip that goes over top and fold the edges after all.

 

Robin :)

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Thanks Don!

 

Started with cutting and filing the side of the ram..

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Not finished, but it gives an idea about what I'm doing.

 

Maybe this is interesting for those who like to use bronze, brass or copper...

How to get the bronze green finish?

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Ammonium Chloride (NH4CL)...now that sounds toxic doesn't it?

But you can actually eat it...sort of...at your own risk of course. :D

It's used ...in the Netherlands...to make "salmiak"...some sort of wicked salty liquorice.

But...to the point...it's fantastic stuff to get the bronze green patina.

Mix with water until you get a muddy paste. cover the copper surface with it and let it rest for a couple of hours.  Rinse with water, let it dry and voila...bronze green. When the effect is too much...you can rub it with a wet or dry tissue.

Some testing and you'll see what can be done.

 

I'll do that after I finished the construction..

 

Robin :)

 

 

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More ramming...

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Finished both sides and cut, filed and sanded into the shape of the ram.

Made a wider strip to go over. 

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Fixed the strip to the ram.

I now must cut the corners of the strip to be able to fold the edges.

Not sure how to fold it yet...I probably need to "micro hammer" it. We'll see. :huh:

 

Robin :)

 

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