RGL Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share #31 Posted October 12, 2018 Drilling out vents lmagna, Jack12477, Haliburton and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 12, 2018 Share #32 Posted October 12, 2018 Started cleaning up the hull. And now Greg has shown some more fun drilling out all the vents. I'm going to look at some Plano brass roof-walk materials for railroad cars as a backing to add a little detail. That website is: http://www.planomodelproducts.com/boxreef_scq.html mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share #33 Posted October 12, 2018 I thought about that, on quite a few photos there does not appear to be any metal grille behind apart from a few support struts. When you zoom in they are completely black, leading me to believe they are hollow. That being said, because of that it forces you to drill these bits out. lmagna, hexnut, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 12, 2018 Share #34 Posted October 12, 2018 Top picture seems to show something on the interior of the vent. A very coarse grill work? There do seem to be some vertical bars(?) in there. mtaylor, popeye the sailor and lmagna 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share #35 Posted October 12, 2018 Different ship but same grilles, I think at this scale no grilles will be OK DORIS, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share #36 Posted October 12, 2018 These two show the grilles up a bit better. you can also see a coaling winch. The rope here slung by the cranes are for coaling and appear to always stay on the deck. Old Collingwood, Canute, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 13, 2018 Share #37 Posted October 13, 2018 Yeah, probably overkill at this scale. CDW, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share #38 Posted October 14, 2018 Now, just for @Canute and @cog I now see there is a lot of prep to do. The the rear torpedo tube mtaylor, lmagna, DORIS and 6 others 9 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share #39 Posted October 14, 2018 The side turrets have to be added before the deck is stuck on, the barrels can be added after Jack12477, popeye the sailor, Canute and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 14, 2018 Share #40 Posted October 14, 2018 Does your research show the torpedo tubes offered any deflection, or was it just a straight shot or nothing? I can see where torpedo's from a fixed launcher could be useful to scuttle a friendly ship or sink a disabled ship, but hitting a moving ship would be next to impossible it seems to me. popeye the sailor, Canute and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share #41 Posted October 14, 2018 As far as I know they were compressed air, and only good for a kilometre or so, thus knife fight range. lmagna, CDW, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share #42 Posted October 15, 2018 Hull together. It’s quite a big ship, the centre deck piece has a very hard time sitting flush as the side cannons throw off the balance and there are a few gaps which seem unavoidable and will require filling. lmagna, DORIS, hexnut and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share #43 Posted October 15, 2018 Detail set looks nearly done lmagna, hexnut, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 15, 2018 Share #44 Posted October 15, 2018 looks like you might need to trim the openings of the rear torpedo tubes.....they look as though the torpedoes will hit the hull as they come out. hull looks good so far Greg. Canute and Old Collingwood 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share #45 Posted October 18, 2018 CaptainSteve, Jack12477, Canute and 6 others 9 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 18, 2018 Share #46 Posted October 18, 2018 When is this set coming out? CDW, popeye the sailor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share #47 Posted October 18, 2018 Apparently end of the month Canute, popeye the sailor, CDW and 1 other 4 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 18, 2018 Share #48 Posted October 18, 2018 Will definitely be following along on this, love the pre-Dreadnaughts. Looking at her beside the Yamato without all the extraneous deck fittings and armament in picture above shows a lot of resemblance to form U-boats and later submarines. CDW, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 18, 2018 Share #49 Posted October 18, 2018 Good news on the PE. I'll be bugging Free Time for it, since they carry the Infini line. Old Collingwood, CDW and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channell Posted October 18, 2018 Share #50 Posted October 18, 2018 Cool... what a weirdly fascinating looking ship! Very interested to see this one go together... Old Collingwood, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 18, 2018 Share #51 Posted October 18, 2018 Yes, relatively spartan, without the usual radar and comm antennas. Make up for that with the torpedo nets and coaling facilities. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share #52 Posted October 18, 2018 They used to be able to hit each other over 12 kilometres just using optics too! At anchor with the nets deployed they would also drag anchor As the tide was turning. They could operate at about 6kts with the nets down but would use a prodigious amount of coal. Old Collingwood, lmagna, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share #53 Posted October 18, 2018 This is a good photo of the fore funnel (facing the bow), in particular you can see the ship’s bell underneath the spotlight, on the port side you can just make out the flybridge that has been folded down. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share #54 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) There is nothing below the waterline when it comes to details. There is also no strakes along the bow which are on the real thing. So some marskung and some very thin tape soles that quickly. I need to get some more rattle can spray to finish coverage on the Lower hull, then I can scribe in some panels. I also added some riveted panels to the rudders and above the cannons that run along the edge of the hull. Edited October 19, 2018 by RGL popeye the sailor, Jack12477, yvesvidal and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share #55 Posted November 30, 2018 I’m loving seeing a representation of plastic models now! My upgrade is ordered but won’t be ready till the end of the year but Ive got a lot on anyways I won’t get to it till February really. What else to the upgrade, I’ve ordered a LOT of pulleys and blocks required for the rigging of the torpedo nets. Very cheap off EBay. Canute is going to get a real head start with this as it’s already arrived in the US. I can’t really do much until I get the template for the torpedo net booms, then I can etch in armour plates. Hey, by Feb Popeye will have finished Vendetta and Cog his marvellous destroyer. Seydltiz under full broadside mtaylor, Canute, cog and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 30, 2018 Share #56 Posted November 30, 2018 hello Greg........was wondering where you got off to. I was hoping to see progress you might have made, but yes........I'm reminded that this kit is hot off the presses, and not everything id available yet. gee, I figured it would have been available in the US by now. have you made any more progress with the hull? sorry about the Vendetta.........she still sits on my desk, waiting for me to continue. I figured you and Carl were disappointed. I have my modeling behavior, and thinking how to proceed to blame. the wood bug gave me a rash Feb sounds like a good goal Canute, RGL, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted November 30, 2018 Share #57 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Just in from Free Time Hobbies in Blue Ridge, GA. A nice sized box chock full of brass, resin, wood and, I think, stainless steel. There are 9 bags of turned brass parts. Two are Seydlitz specific masting and yards. Seven bags contain the various gun barrels, booms hose reels and derricks. There is one resin bag with the blast bags for the 280 mm cannon. There are 6 brass photo etch frets: A- railings, companionways, ladders and ringoles(?), B-davits, boat chocks, daylights, C- railings, stack trim, derricks, D-anti-torpedo booms, E- ships boats, F anchor gear and coaling hatches/scuttles. Anchor chain and 2 pieces of 0.15 mm brass wire are also included. I believe the wire is for rigging the helm signals attached to the main mast. There is a very thin wood deck set. Four double sided pages of instructions, along with a parts breakout of all the bagged parts and drilling patterns for the torpedo net mounting holes. There is also a drilling guide to attach some boat booms towards the stern. Good sized box, about 15 inches long Brass barrels, hose reels and mast parts anti torpedo boom rigging and shelving for the nets Instruction sheet, 1 of 4 bagged parts and drilling diagram torpedo nets and more ringoles You will need some 40 dernier black lycra thread (Infini part IR 0401B super fine black) Not included in this package, but called out in the instruction sheets. Below is the wood sheets and anchor chain, along with a slightly better view of the stainless netting. Edited November 30, 2018 by Canute add to captioning cog, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted November 30, 2018 Share #58 Posted November 30, 2018 WOW That should keep you off the streets and out of trouble for a while Ken! Happy Day! (BTW Greg is jealous) Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted November 30, 2018 Share #59 Posted November 30, 2018 Lou, I know.We're in touch. He's further along with his hull. I'm deciding how I'll display the ship. Probably pedestals, but.... mtaylor, CDW, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted November 30, 2018 Share #60 Posted November 30, 2018 I know you guys are in touch. It's a group build afterall. I was just giving you a bad time by relating to his broadside that he posted last night our time. Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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