chris watton Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share #781 Posted July 15, 2020 There was nowhere to put the binnacle, and I am not sure Flirt would have had mast hoops, those are really for Alert. mtaylor 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted July 15, 2020 Share #782 Posted July 15, 2020 I do have a commission build for a local bistro so I'm looking for a nice model for them. Flirt is on my radar as is Alert. chris watton, mtaylor and BobG 3 Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 15, 2020 Share #783 Posted July 15, 2020 good luck with the orders, all your hard work is very much appreciated Swede, rusty b, chris watton and 2 others 5 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted July 15, 2020 Share #784 Posted July 15, 2020 Will you update your site web page for Flirt then? I realize I am a few hours early but I don't see a way to order. mtaylor 1 Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted July 15, 2020 Share #785 Posted July 15, 2020 Chris, would you happen to have any photos that would show how pearwood and boxwood compare in color once they have a clear finish on them? They both seem like beautiful woods to work with but I would like to see what the difference is in color between the two so I could get an idea about how the regular model would look compared to the Model Shipwright model. Thanks. mtaylor 1 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share #786 Posted July 15, 2020 The website should automatically bring the pages online after 12.00. Bob, a good example of the boxwood hull planking can be found here, with the Master Shipwright version of Speedy: Flirt not only has the boxwood planking, but also boxwood laser cut wooden parts. mtaylor, coxswain, BobG and 1 other 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 15, 2020 Share #787 Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, chris watton said: not sure Flirt would have had mast hoops Well, that makes sense - why would it - silly me. mtaylor and chris watton 2 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 15, 2020 Share #788 Posted July 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, BobG said: regular model would look I believe James built both a Speedy in Pear and Flirt in Boxwood - could look for those build logs. They are both nice woods but nothing alike. The pear is more a dark pink (in a good way), the boxwood more yellow and gold. Pear leaves walnut deep in the dust for quality but is not near the cost of the ever harder to find boxwood. I'm looking to building Speedy in Pear and Flirt in boxwood someday when Cheerful isn't on the bench. Check Rusty's Winnie log, he's building that giant 4 foot monster in pear and has some recent nice looks posted Ryland Craze, chris watton, BobG and 1 other 4 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share #789 Posted July 15, 2020 I can also say that pear is much better than standard kit walnut, and looks great (grain-wise) when painted or varnished. Boxwood shows hardly any grain and looks great in the closest of shots. mtaylor, coxswain, hwe and 2 others 5 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 15, 2020 Share #790 Posted July 15, 2020 If I have my time zones and days right shouldn't it be up now? mtaylor 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted July 16, 2020 Share #791 Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, chris watton said: The website should automatically bring the pages online after 12.00. Midnite in what part of the world? 🙂 mtaylor 1 Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted July 16, 2020 Share #792 Posted July 16, 2020 Technically Chris said after 12, not at 12😁 (I’ll see my myself out for that one). 2 hours ago, BobG said: pearwood and boxwood compare in color once they have a clear finish on them? I’ve never used boxwood (have a small bit of it though in planks and sheets), but I really like the look of pear with WOP. You can take a look at my Alert log to see how it cleans up. I would love to find a source for some pear sheets, Rusty’s Winnie’s log is amazing. BobG, mtaylor and glbarlow 3 Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 16, 2020 Share #793 Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, VTHokiEE said: not at 12😁 He said 12:01 so .... 😄 Gord-Canada, VTHokiEE and mtaylor 3 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted July 16, 2020 Share #794 Posted July 16, 2020 Yeah - no kidding. I'm ready to buy and still don't see the page. It's 12:13am CDT. No purchase options available. mtaylor 1 Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted July 16, 2020 Share #795 Posted July 16, 2020 It's there now. The product didn't want to show on a specific kit category, but now it's sorted. You can pre-order! https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/product/order-164-hms-flirt/ glbarlow, mtaylor, BobG and 2 others 5 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #796 Posted July 16, 2020 Sorry for the glitch guys, there was a slight technical that I could not sort, and didn't know about it until I awoke, and even then I couldn't sort it, as I'm an idiot... All sorted now, though. Cheers, Chris glbarlow, JeffT, BobG and 1 other 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 16, 2020 Share #797 Posted July 16, 2020 My master Shipwright Flirt has been ordered, can’t wait to see it. Just as a note my future build log will use James’ photos, otherwise I’ll just feel bad about myself 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Ronald-V, mtaylor, BobG and 7 others 10 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 16, 2020 Share #798 Posted July 16, 2020 Glenn, your models always look very nice. I'm sure you'll do both Chris and James justice. mtaylor, glbarlow, hollowneck and 4 others 7 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #799 Posted July 16, 2020 I will have another large update very soon, with pictures of the new development I have been working on for so long which, thanks to being furloughed, should be ready before December. Rustyj, BobG, VTHokiEE and 9 others 12 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 16, 2020 Share #800 Posted July 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, ccoyle said: I'm sure you'll do both Chris and James justice. Thanks, I’ll do my best to do so. mtaylor 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #801 Posted July 16, 2020 Oh, almost forgot, the 18' cutter is now available as a separate fitting VonHoldinghausen, Edwardkenway, BobG and 12 others 15 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted July 16, 2020 Share #802 Posted July 16, 2020 That Cutter is going on my HMS Snake. Hey Chris, are you going to make other sizes of launches? Jonny 007, chris watton and mtaylor 3 Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #803 Posted July 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, BenD said: That Cutter is going on my HMS Snake. Hey Chris, are you going to make other sizes of launches? Yes, as and when I develop new kits with boats, they will become available to buy as separate accessories. Jonny 007, Ryland Craze, BobG and 4 others 7 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted July 16, 2020 Share #804 Posted July 16, 2020 Is this a cutter build on aplug? Looks a very convincing cutter. I'm very curious what the next one will be. pics till now looked promising. Little space left in my cupboard, butI might be tempted.... Jan mtaylor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #805 Posted July 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, amateur said: Is this a cutter build on aplug? Looks a very convincing cutter. I'm very curious what the next one will be. pics till now looked promising. Little space left in my cupboard, butI might be tempted.... Jan Yes, the cutter is built on a frame plug, I find it's the best way to plank them. Just finished the stern area of my next kit, looks OK..... I think you may like it, very different to the other subjects. Kevin, Jonny 007, Ryland Craze and 5 others 8 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 007 Posted July 16, 2020 Share #806 Posted July 16, 2020 I just ordered one of the cutters as they look like a neat little model all on their own! chris watton, VTHokiEE and mtaylor 3 CURRENT BUILD HMS Bounty’s Jolly Boat - AL - FINISHED HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share #807 Posted July 20, 2020 OK, it has been a good while since I did a proper update to this thread, but I have been really busy. As said, I had to sort out Flirt, getting this ready for release, which is imminent, just waiting for manuals and plans. However, whilst Jim was helping me by building the Flirt prototype and taking the pictures, I was (and still am) busy working on my sixth development. I thought this would be a release for next year, but thanks to Jim's help, and me being furloughed, I now aim for a Winter 2020 release for my last kit in the small/medium size range. This is part of my original choices when deciding what to develop when first starting out. I only have one plan set showing hull lines and bulkheads, together with decoration detail. Despite there only being this one plan, I felt compelled to turn this into a kit, and the 'balance' seems spot on between hull lines and decoration. I have called the model 'Duchess of Kingston', as it was built for her by JM Hillhouse of Bristol, probably in the late 1770's or very early 1780's. I have tried to emulate as much detail shown on the plans without too much deviation, and also added a little extra, the upper deck rails being one. It has been a very long design process for such a seemingly simple model, and many things have changed on the way, but the basic hull assembly never changed. I have now designed it so than all areas at deck level and above, both inner and outer, are all pre-cut. This have added much to the parts and materials, but feel it cancels out any ambiguity of port or window opening placements. I decided to maser cut the upper rails as one pieces, as there are so many intersecting parts, making misalignment mistakes a real danger. I have cancelled this out, I hope, completely. Material quantities are very high (6 sheets of 1mm pearwood alone), but I do not care, I am now happy with the designs, and I am happy (if a little nervous) to show you the result of these designs. The quarterdeck companion does have a spiral staircase, which you cannot really see from the pics. The model hull is about 90% complete, and still requires more touching up, adding of parts (windlass is dry fitted for pics and deadeyes/strops not yet fitted) and final varnishing. It has a cast resin figurehead and stern decoration, along with new windlass and canopy for the door. It is 64th scale and size wise, it is virtually the same as Speedy, with a hull length of around 450mm. I will add pics of the laser and PE materials, so you can see just how much is pre cut. I hope you like... Ekis, JpR62, egkb and 35 others 38 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted July 20, 2020 Share #808 Posted July 20, 2020 Wow... that looks really nice. Here I was planning on trying to hold out for your bigger offering and now you go and drop something like this! chris watton, mtaylor, Ekis and 1 other 4 Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahka_est Posted July 20, 2020 Share #809 Posted July 20, 2020 Amazing job Chris! Your kits are in my future build list! One man army against the big manufacturers! Superb development and quality! Looking forward to make my first kit from you! Keep up the good work and keep developing new ones! chris watton, mtaylor, coxswain and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted July 20, 2020 Share #810 Posted July 20, 2020 What a beautiful model Chris! I'll bet it's going to be very popular. Just curious, do you do your on PE in house? It's very well done. BobG, chris watton, Ronald-V and 1 other 4 GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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