kayakerlarry Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #31 Posted March 16, 2020 Mike, Thanks for your comments. Looks like I should have indicated the pivot point on my plans - good input for the future. The lower forward point is where the centerboard pivots. The upper aft point is where a peg would be pushed into to keep the centerboard raised. And yes, I would have run this boat aground a few times when I learned how to sail so can attest to the fact that the centerboard does indeed bounce up! Larry mtaylor 1 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share #32 Posted March 17, 2020 This should take care of it... FriedClams, mtaylor and G.L. 3 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share #33 Posted March 18, 2020 Three turnbuckles and top of mast shroud fastener "manufactured". Took me a while to figure out best way to do turnbuckles but put aluminum tubing onto wire and used Exacto knife to shave away the side slots - easier than my first attempt of filing tubing. I think using CA glue to keep loops in rather than crimping ends looks better. ccoyle, GrandpaPhil, Jim Cricket and 4 others 7 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #34 Posted March 29, 2020 Getting there...All standing rigging fixtures in place, blocks stopped and painted silver, and ready to step mast. And mounting posts ready for final steps FriedClams, mtaylor, yvesvidal and 4 others 7 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted March 30, 2020 Share #35 Posted March 30, 2020 What a beautiful boat...Moab mtaylor 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share #36 Posted April 8, 2020 The hardest thing so far was building the right boom crotch! After 5 prototypes I finally found the "right" one! Lower row, middle is the "perfect" crotch... Final rigging and details being completed on the Loon. Pictures to follow in a day or so. G.L., GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share #37 Posted April 8, 2020 Well I think I am DONE with the Loon which is the first of four! I mounted on the Camp plaque we received each year we were campers (this one is from my 2nd year at camp in 1960 - appropriate as my plan is to give this at the 100th camp anniversary this summer - 60 years after I received this plaque). The next model will be the Hawk which I will mount next to the Loon and then build a case. I am still planning on building the final two models (Gull and Falcon) for myself and mount on my last camper plaque in 1964 but we'll see...I will keep this log open and only note major progress going forward. GrandpaPhil, BLACK VIKING, rock harris and 9 others 12 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted April 9, 2020 Share #38 Posted April 9, 2020 Larry, Congratulations for finishing this beautiful model. A good idea to place it on that Camp plaque. She looks really nice. Will you make a log for the three next knockabouts? FriedClams and mtaylor 2 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 9, 2020 Share #39 Posted April 9, 2020 Nice work, Larry -- congratulations! mtaylor and FriedClams 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share #40 Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks for the compliments gentlemen. I will continue with a more simplified log for the next three boats - either continue this one or start a new one for each construction - Chris, as a moderator is there a preferred method? Just spoke to the organizer of the 100th camp anniversary last night and with all the unknowns it may be deferred until summer of 2021 - that would really give me time to finish all four! G.L. and Moab 2 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 10, 2020 Share #41 Posted April 10, 2020 Beautiful work and a great thing to donate to the camp. I would say just add them to this build. Or are they totally different types? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted April 12, 2020 Share #42 Posted April 12, 2020 Congratulations! Well done! mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted April 13, 2020 Share #43 Posted April 13, 2020 Congrats Larry. A beautiful boat. The camp will love and treasure it...Moab mtaylor 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #44 Posted April 13, 2020 Thanks all. I have started the next 3 boats in hopes of getting at least one more finished in time for the anniversary (assuming it happens this year!). I will continue with this log to note the highlights and lessons learned from my first build. I think to the extent possible I will complete the parts for all 3 at the same time to maximize my learnings. Here is the first phase of stem and keel structures for all three. I may not be as ambitious when it comes to the planks but we'll see... Jack12477, yvesvidal, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted April 14, 2020 Share #45 Posted April 14, 2020 The story is continuing. That's good news! mtaylor 1 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share #46 Posted April 23, 2020 Three keel structures completed... GrandpaPhil, Jack12477 and mtaylor 3 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share #47 Posted April 23, 2020 Planking completed... but not without some challenges/learnings. I must have cut planks just a bit narrower as I need garboard + 8 vs garboard + 7 on prior model. I debated making one of the last two planks wider vs adding a spacer piece. I opted for the latter and wasn’t real happy with outcome. Looked at Underhill’s plank and frame book after the fact and see there is a “preferred” method. Maybe number three will be better! Now onto hull sanding and wood filler. GrandpaPhil, G.L. and mtaylor 3 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share #48 Posted April 23, 2020 Lesson Learned...Another difference from the Loon construction that seemed to work better - rather than using carpenters glue and pinning each plank all at the same time I used CA glue and broke up the gluing process into 3 sections. That way I could better fit each section to the adjourning plank and end up with a smoother transition between each plank and avoid the excess bowing. Makes sense as these boats wouldn't have used one 15 foot plank but rather 3-4 individual planks butted together. mtaylor 1 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooners Posted April 24, 2020 Share #49 Posted April 24, 2020 Good job, I enjoyed watching your build and look forward to your next. I particularly like your combing, your centerboard detail, your turn buckles (of course) and your rope work. The cleat tie offs are such a nice touch. Again Congrats. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share #50 Posted April 27, 2020 Hull came off the mold in good shape and have started with the floorboard frames. The change in the planking process gave a bit more width at the beam so I am much closer to the true beam width of 5'1" so should not have to force the frames to widen each side. Now the Loon will have the Hawk for a dock mate... Moab, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share #51 Posted May 5, 2020 Frames, centerboard, floorboards, mast and "T" shaped boom all complete. Mast step and supports for brass posts all installed in the "bilge". Much easier to install the upper frames with the slightly wider planks. Deck and combing up next. GrandpaPhil, mtaylor, Moab and 2 others 5 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 5, 2020 Share #52 Posted May 5, 2020 Coming along very nicely, Larry! John mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share #53 Posted May 13, 2020 Interior completed. Learning from Loon - shroud, halyard blocks, jib eyes and traveler needed more support than 1/32" deck thickness could offer so I installed 1/8" thick blocks under each location - port shroud block glued to hull at front of floorboard (first picture) and all other blocks glued to underside of deck (second picture). Also added a post on inside of transom to give a bit more support for the gudgeons. G.L., Moab, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share #54 Posted June 14, 2020 Mast stepped and all eye hooks in place for running rigging. One painful lesson I just went thru - the way I made the turnbuckles for the Loon had two separate eye hooks at each end (reality????) but in trying to tighten the shrouds this time the wire eye hooks came out of the crimped end of the turnbuckle. Solution was (had to do this jib and port halyard shrouds) to just make a single wire thru the turnbuckle and make eye hook at each end and attach to deck hook (which can take a lot of tension as the twisted loop is superglued into the block beneath deck - see last pic below). Then loop shroud thru top of turnbuckle and crimp off wire. If anyone has any other suggestions on how to best create tight shrouds, I'm all ears... Blocks on underside of deck to secure shroud and halyard eye hooks. G.L., GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakerlarry Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share #55 Posted June 28, 2020 FINISHED HAWK - second of four! Mounted on my 1960 camp plaque ready for presentation to Camp after Covid 19 one year delay of 100th anniversary now schedule for 2021. Glass case will be next and then onto the Gull and Falcon which I may decide to rig with sails. GrandpaPhil, Moab, KeithAug and 2 others 5 Quote Larry Current Build: New Bedford Whaleboat by Model Shipways scale 1:16 Completed Builds: Cape Cod Nimblet Knockabouts - Loon, Hawk, Gull and Falcon Howard W. Middleton scale 1:96 - 1883 coastal coal schooner Susan P. scale 1:24 - Maine Lobster Boat by Freedom Song Boatworks Yacht America scale 1:96 by Marine Models Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 12 1/2 scale 1:12 Thermopylae scale 1:124 - English Tea Clipper by Mantua Models Roar Ege - Roskilde, Denmark Coastal Trader Viking Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted June 28, 2020 Share #56 Posted June 28, 2020 Beautiful models, Larry. Moab and mtaylor 2 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted June 28, 2020 Share #57 Posted June 28, 2020 Lovely models. I very much like to see small models like these done well. The "modern" wire and turnbuckle rigging is particularly difficult, but worth the challenge. There are entirely too many Victory and Constitution, and the like, models out here, but not nearly enough of small wooden craft. Very nice presentation on the camp plaques, too! Moab, mtaylor and Roger Pellett 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted June 28, 2020 Share #58 Posted June 28, 2020 They look AWESOME!!!!...Moab mtaylor 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted June 28, 2020 Share #59 Posted June 28, 2020 Nice work, Larry, and an interesting subject too. Wooden camp boats bring back great memories. The camp that I went to had a fleet of wooden catboats for beginners. “Wood Pussy” or “Beatles,” I don’t remember which. If I modeled the one that I sailed it would have a lot of scrapes from hitting the dock. The camp should be delighted to receive this handsome gift. Roger mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 28, 2020 Share #60 Posted June 28, 2020 What a great Pigeon pair! John mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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