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That chain looks fantastic Nenad!   Best wishes for your Admiral!   Your house won't be empty for long! 

 

Cheers

GEORGE

 

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I know that "bad-end movie" and "sound of silence", Nenad.  I hope you get a good-end movie and life goes back to normal.. and soon.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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All the best for your wife Nenad, hope things will turn out okay for her and you.

About the chain - - I agree with your decision to lay the chain across the winch, it'll look more realistic.

Chain looks great!

 

Cheers,

 

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

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Just to report I am still here

 

Still waitin` for biopsy results, Admiral is in hospital, feeling a bit better

 

In mean time my mother (80) gets to hospital urgent surgery (gall bladder ruptured), in critical condition...

 

Will this ever stops ? Can anything more jump on my head those days?

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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I'm glad your Admiral is feeling better Nenad, but sorry to hear of your Mother. Keep the faith my friend, that things will work out OK !

 

Best wishes for your Admiral and your Mom.

GEORGE

 

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You have a strong loving family and solid caring friends right here in this room. All will turn out good in the end my friend.

Dave

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Your chain is dead on and my prayers go to your admiral and your mother as echoed you have friends here to lean on.

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Glad your wife is feeling better and our prayers go out for your mom.  Stay strong my friend.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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I am so sorry about your mother......I pray she recovers fully...as well as your sweet wife.

 

According to your most recent images of the Cutty and the chain you are fabricating...good job!  One thing I am not clear on is that, are you going to model your version with the forward hatch covered with that stairwell cowling as well as that cowling just aft of the windless forward?

 

These items are not of the original design and were added for cadet and public usage.  Are you omitting them or adding them..not sure I read that anywhere?

 

Rob

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Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

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Thank you Rob and others for a nice words and support

 

Rob, I still do not know exactly. Considering I made several unrecoverable ups/ouch mistakes in early stages of build, that situation leads me out from "historic accuracy" way, but also leads me more to the aesthetic direction and point of view, with idea to over-detail Her and mask mistakes.

 

So, we will see what will happen when I swim out from present life chaoys I am in those days with no idea how long it will last

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Mine and my ships cats thoughts are with you and yours. Keep well yourself as its all too easy to get down at times like this and you have a good family around you. Just having each other to lean on will mean so much. Don't underestimate each other's worth or strengths at this time. May the Gods smile down on you and yours very soon.

 

Love the chain but that's for another time. Soon. Good luck and better news be yours.

Ongoing builds,

 

SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie)

Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis)

Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can

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Nenad,

 

I'm hoping it all goes well for your wife and mother.  As Thomas Paine (American writer from the late 1700's) said, "These are the times that try men's souls."   All we can do is ride them out and hope the best.  My thoughts are with you.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thx Mark. Great quote. Similar thoughts can be find in works of classical writers as Remarque, Hemingway, very often with Russian writers from middle XX century. If you are reading a lot, you actually are doing a fine sanding of your soul, shaping your points of view and personality, and preparing you on some way to hard times that eventually you have to face with.


It is hard, very very hard ( yesterday night urgent surgery to save Her life - stomach complications, thx good she wake up) but I think that in war things can be more more harder than in illness.

Fortunately my family and friends had no consequences during civilian war on Balkan, but stories we have heard .... better not to write about

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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I'm happy to hear the surgery was good. Was this on your mother?  Hard times seem to hit everyone sometime.  I don't know who said it but it fits:  "Hard times do not shape character.  They reveal it.".   I hope that translates well.

 

Indeed, war is harder as too much of the unknown can happen too quick to too many people.  For right now, take care of yourself, my friend.   

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"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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 "Hard times do not shape character.  They reveal it.".  

 

 

 

In my country it is said : "Snow does not fall to cover the hill, but to every beast shows its mark"

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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hope things work out Nenad...glad to hear your mother made it through the operation Ok.  thoughts are with you my friend  ;)

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Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
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I'm happy to hear the surgery was good. Was this on your mother?  Hard times seem to hit everyone sometime.  I don't know who said it but it fits:  "Hard times do not shape character.  They reveal it.".   I hope that translates well.

 

Indeed, war is harder as too much of the unknown can happen too quick to too many people.  For right now, take care of yourself, my friend.

 

As mayor said "hard times do not shape character. They reveal it" also they reveal the true value of having a good family and true friends. And you have them both.

 

Best wishes to all and sincere hope for you as well

Ongoing builds,

 

SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie)

Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis)

Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can

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In my country it is said : "Snow does not fall to cover the hill, but to every beast shows its mark"

It also shows those marks of all that are by your side but can not be seen.

 

I don't mean to be presumptuous but I feel that is all on here.

 

We stand not face to face in time of need, but shoulder to shoulder.

So as to be able the better to support one another if needed.

Ongoing builds,

 

SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie)

Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis)

Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can

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What a warm and wonderful "family" we are a part of here on MSW. Much more than just a bunch of builders of fine model ships.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you for just being here arround

 

She is feeling subjective better, and sun shines, so I feel better too, and find a will to go down to finish second anchor chain

 

This macro shot shows original Coin and prepared coin before knoting

 

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Chains are a little more than 1mm thick, and I think right in scale considering windlass

 

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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This chains along masts are several times thinner than anchor chains. This will be challenge, because in scale they have to be about 1/4mm ... and to look as a chain. I am not sure that anybody is able to make on any way by his hand such a thing, and it seems that only solution is to find and order the thinnest chain you can find on internet

 

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CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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The chain you made looks great Nenad!  I agree with you about just ordering the smaller size, as I don't think anybody could scratch-build a chain that small. I'm glad you're feeling better my friend, and we're all praying for you and your family. 

GEORGE

 

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Hi Nenad,

 

Sorry to hear about your family health, glad to hear your mother is feeling better.

 

I did some simulated chain of small scale when I built my Wingnut Wings plastic WWI aircraft model.
A chain was required from the cockpit to the wing radiator.
I used a hair for that that I laid double and tied together in knots. Then I painted it silver.
Ended up between 1/2 -> 1/3 mm thick

Not sure if it's workable for the Cutty Sark, as there is quite a bit of this chain required and it's tedious work.
 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IMhu4g8y6tM/VLIDJaAx2PI/AAAAAAAAObg/GR5EgJuBx1Y/s1600/IMG_1187.JPG   -The huge iron bar at the top is a .8 mm drill bit.. :-)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_4M2Ppatppw/VMbtkBy6hQI/AAAAAAAAOks/v0_oaS6Yk1w/s1600/IMG_1203.JPG

 

(From http://wingnutbuild.blogspot.com.au/ )

 

/Peter

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Chains made from hair ?!?!

I sure would like to see THAT in Kit-bashers !!

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Absolutely breathless Peter. I am not sure I have enough patience for that, but, who knows ... 

 

I did some tests with very thin cooper wire making chains for boomkins, and in my scale it looks ok and thin enough

 

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But along masts there are long straight lines of chains, and in my opinion it has to be made very meticulous and tidy without any tubercles. With hair chains two questions arise - when they are 10-20 cm long - 1. are they strong enough to withstand tightening, and 2. how to continue chain when chain is longer than a hair you find/cut from hair, without visible tubercles

 

 

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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I tried using very thin copper wire from transformers, but I could not make it look right.
Obviously a better material if you can make it work, since it comes in greater lengths and is easier to work with.
However, if you pull at the copper version, it doesn't spring back.

I used a hair because it had exactly the right springiness to form nice round loops. Didn't take long to make either (15 - 20 minutes).
Problem would be to make longer stretches.
It is also very elastic.

It may not be suitable, I just mentioned it because I had good success in making a very small chain this way.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Thanks Peter, I'll shure keep it in mind when time comes

 

Couple steps back in my log, there was discusion about Star of India, meaning, origin and conection with India

 

Maybe here is answer I found today

 

http://blogs.rmg.co.uk/cuttysark/2015/05/15/the-star-of-india/

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

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