NAIAD 1797 by Bitao - 1:60

[French Mr Bean]

Hello Bitao,

 

I ordered the Naiade books last night. I just read your thread carefully and I bookmarked it on my pc! As much for the text as for the images and the philosophical side to adopt to model this journal is extraordinary.

Good continuation on your model. 😉

[Bitao]

Thank you for your love and praise. In order to show more detail, I spent some time taking photos and slowing down the process. Also in order to enjoy the process in their own production rather than make themselves very tired. The goal that was supposed to be accomplished by the end of this month will certainly not be met, so let's just go with the flow. .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[French Mr Bean]

We don't always get what we want. ( and that's better.... 😉 )

Edited June 7, 2022 by French Mr Bean

[Bitao]

Today, I did nothing but spend a whole day in the studio wondering about the true shape and size of a component! I have been faithful to the original design, but the following picture of the drive rod support in the complete set of books and drawings do not see the detailed description. I've been going over the EdT process again and again, and I still can't find the exact answer except for the following photo, which seems to me to be different from the drawing, as if it's a column instead of an“L” in the process picture. So I can't take the next step. Maybe this part isn't important? But I still hope that who knows friends can provide specific shape for my reference. Also to maximize the restoration of the model's true shape. Thanks for your help!

 

 

 

 

 

[Bitao]

On 6/7/2022 at 8:02 PM, French Mr Bean said:

We don't always get what we want. ( and that's better.... 😉 )

This is the fun of our production and the motivation to pursue the goal. . What's not easy is beautiful, isn't it?

[French Mr Bean]

Hi,

An L would be awkward for scale output. 🤔

[mtaylor]

I think you have the right shape of those supports and just need the pump "arms" bent to shape.

[druxey]

These support posts varied on different contemporary models. I've seen iron ones with an upright post supported by a curved bracket down from the top to the hatch coaming inboard.

[Bitao]

2 hours ago, druxey said:

These support posts varied on different contemporary models. I've seen iron ones with an upright post supported by a curved bracket down from the top to the hatch coaming inboard.

Thanks Druxey for the information. After careful consideration, I will use the simplest approach without reliable information or detailed references. Avoid self-defeating.

[French Mr Bean]

When I look at the photos, a question comes to me: "Where is the dust?" 🤣

[Alan Cabrera]

On 6/8/2022 at 9:35 AM, Bitao said:

I have been faithful to the original design, but the following picture of the drive rod support in the complete set of books and drawings do not see the detailed description. I've been going over the EdT process again and again, and I still can't find the exact answer except for the following photo, which seems to me to be different from the drawing, as if it's a column instead of an“L” in the process picture.

I interpret the cross-section drawing as cutting along the axis of the drive rod.  This is why one sees a solid column where the L-shaped stanchion is, at the end of the drive rod.

 

Figure 33-33 of the book matches your interpretation, exactly.  The paragraph that details Figure 33-33 talks about how one could construct the L-shaped stanchion in the same manner that copper wire was used to create the iron knees, or cut them from copper plate.  To me, this confirms that the stanchions that cap the end of the drive rod are L-shaped.

 

As L-shaped stanchions go, yours are quite lovely.  Looking at your photo, I noticed that they are a shiny copper and I assume that you intend to blacken them as I think that they would have been made of iron; blackening them makes them consistent with Edward Tosti's model.  Also, I see that there are no crank handles offset from the drive shaft.  I guess the plan is to add them once you feel comfortable with the L-shaped stanchions?

Edited June 12, 2022 by Alan Cabrera

[Alan Cabrera]

On 6/11/2022 at 1:44 AM, French Mr Bean said:

When I look at the photos, a question comes to me: "Where is the dust?" 🤣

Bitao, a master chef of ship building, adheres to the work clean ethic of clean tools and clean workspace.  🤣

[Bitao]

1 hour ago, Alan Cabrera said:

I interpret the cross-section drawing as cutting along the axis of the drive rod.  This is why one sees a solid column where the L-shaped stanchion is, at the end of the drive rod.

 

Many thanks to Alan Cabrera for his detailed answers and for providing me with the location of the book. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in the previous post: The image of the“L” formation was borrowed from Edward Tosti's process rather than my own. Because my knowledge of English is limited, mainly with the help of the Internet translator and we have limited communication, for drawings and books, I usually more directly use data and pictures to distinguish, so a lot of things aren't really understood; for me, reading and understanding is my biggest obstacle, and it takes me a lot more time and it's a lot harder than building parts, and it's a major factor in my progress. The following results were completed in two days according to my personal understanding. In fact, they were also made by the integral milling method after I scrapped two plans and six parts, to first ensure that the installation after the connection is stable and reliable (I rarely use glue to join metal parts of the method) . The finished product will be different from Edward Tosti's, but for me, with limited reading comprehension, it's safer to use the plan in the drawing, so I didn't use an“L” but instead a vertical pillar that looks like a pyramid. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bitao]

On 6/11/2022 at 4:44 PM, French Mr Bean said:

When I look at the photos, a question comes to me: "Where is the dust?" 🤣

For me, showing others is not only a clear picture, but also an attitude of doing things. Clean Environment is not only comfortable to operate, but also to avoid the processing error caused by dust, especially small parts.

[French Mr Bean]

Hi Bitao,

I just received the 2 volumes!!

In volume 2, on the page 319 (  bottom picture)  we can clearly see the " L ". 🙂

[Alan Cabrera]

14 hours ago, Bitao said:

I'm sorry to disappoint you.

Oh, not disappointed at all!  I love to see different Craftsmans’ interpretations and decisions. Those stanchions are also quite lovely.

 

If I did have to mention a disappointment, I would say that I would very much LOVE to see a video of you crafting them; I realize the difficulties inherent in creating such a recording and don’t want make you feel awkward.  It’s just that you are sooooo good at crafting those lovely tiny bits…

Edited June 13, 2022 by Alan Cabrera

[Bitao]

The schedule was suspended due to heavy work for more than a week. I spent a day installing these components today. These may not seem like much, but with fixed pins and rivets, precise positioning can be time-consuming.

 

 

 

 

[No Idea]

Fantastic work bitao 👍

[albert]

Great beautiful work bitao.

[Bitao]

Due to my very limited knowledge, and may not have a good understanding of ED drawings and design concepts and instructions, resulting in the previous completed with the chain pump connected to the“Axis tree” manufacturing error. I may have“Simplified” it for a lot of people. Thanks to Greg for correcting this in time and providing me with detailed drawings that gave me an intuitive understanding of their basic structure. His rigorous attitude and the spirit of unremitting pursuit again let me admire unceasingly! This made me decide that I had to scrap the original result and re-make this part, even though it was considered perfect by many and liked it. Maybe the improvements you see now are still not perfect, but I have done my best. In my opinion, every outstanding person is trying to achieve every detail, it is this forum for everyone the biggest harvest. It's also a reality I have to face in order to make progress. Here, I have to thank each and every one of them for providing me with the information and correcting my mistakes. Thank you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[French Mr Bean]

It's perfect, the search for perfection always pays off!

[dvm27]

Looks perfect now, like the rest of your work. I should point out the the illustration was created by David Antscherl as part of The Fully Framed Swan series of books.

Edited June 23, 2022 by dvm27

[Bitao]

Finish the top deck beam machining. Using waterproof latex bonding, interface to do a black line treatment to increase the effect. Use for at least 48 hours after the hot bending treatment. I can have a rest these days. 

 

[French Mr Bean]

Nice job. Good nap ! 🤣

[BANYAN]

Your joinery remains first class Bitao, those scarfed joints are super clean and crisp.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Bitao]

Continue after a week's rest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bitao]

Good evening, everyone。

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[French Mr Bean]

Magnificent patient and precision !

[BANYAN]

Great to see your update Bitao, I was missing them.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Bitao]

In order to locate accurately, the main beam of the back half of the upper deck is laid (not yet glued) . It provides a reliable guarantee for the smooth completion of all the internals in the later period.