NAIAD 1797 by Bitao - 1:60

[BANYAN]

Another great model.  As the others have said, if not happy, repeat!  As with your other builds, your joinery is so clean and crisp.  I will enjoy following along with this one as well.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[dvm27]

Lovely remake Bitao. Just curious - is the knee of  the head permanently affixed to the stem or just temporarily fitted? I'm asking because the knee of the head is usually tapered  aft to fore and from the lower to the extreme upper tip. As well the standard usually narrower than the upper knee/stem junction.

[Bitao]

4 hours ago, druxey said:

Certainly the plan under the model helps keep the frames to the correct spread or width.

Yes, druxey. That's the lowest mistake I've ever made. Too much confidence in their own vision and neglect of the positioning of the abduction edge.

[Bitao]

3 hours ago, dvm27 said:

Lovely remake Bitao. Just curious - is the knee of  the head permanently affixed to the stem or just temporarily fitted? I'm asking because the knee of the head is usually tapered  aft to fore and from the lower to the extreme upper tip. As well the standard usually narrower than the upper knee/stem junction.

Hello, Greg. I'm sorry, because my English is limited, I can't understand you. Can you draw this position and direction on the picture? From what I understand, you're referring to a change in the thickness of the top of the ribs?

Edited August 4, 2021 by bitao

[Bitao]

Greg, is this what you meant by "the knee of the head permanently" ?

 

[dvm27]

No, Bitao. Those are the hawse and bollard timbers. Look at the photos below. In the first one the black arrow points towards the upper end of the knee of the head. It is where the figurehead sits and tapers to about 6" in width on the Naiad frigate. If you look carefully at Sheet 2 of Ed's plan you will see this taper. The taper also extends down to the lower part of the knee. Ed also discusses this on page 71 (volume 1) "Tapering the Knee of the Head". In the second photo the red arrow points at the standard ("gammoning knee") which sits atop the knee of the head. Note that it is narrower then the stem and knee of the head. Ed mentions it briefly in volume 2, page 272.

 

It would difficult for most people to add this taper once the knee of the head is attached to the model but if you have already done so I believe your skillset will find a way to do this. Hope this has clarified things for you.

 

 

 

[Bitao]

Greg, I finally understand what you're saying, and first of all, thank you so much for pointing that out. This is also the reason why I like MSW from the bottom of my heart, I have seen many masters including your excellent works and style of work, let me learn a lot of things, but also met many warm-hearted friends. Secondly, I have to admit that some mistakes are inevitable due to my lack of knowledge of the basic structure of ships and my language comprehension and reading difficulties. But it's also the process and opportunity for me to learn and improve. At present, the ribs have been laid to the seventh group, although it is more difficult to change, but I think it is also a test and an opportunity to improve my skills. I will do everything in my power to meet that standard. Thanks again for your detailed and patient answers!  

[Bitao]

On 7/17/2021 at 7:00 PM, druxey said:

Nice clean work. Don't forget the taper of the knee of the head!

After Greg made it clear that I was wrong, I realized how important your warning was. Because of my misunderstanding. . Now I have to find a way to change it .What a painful reality!😪

[druxey]

It's all part of our learning curve, bitao. My first fully framed model had parts re-built four times!

[Bitao]

The saddest thing for me was that while everyone else was making progress in post construction, I was regressing in reconstruction and failure. But I'm glad you guys supported it, especially Greg and Druxey for their timely comments! I learned something. It's been specially modified today. Also feel harmonious and much better-looking!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bruce d]

Your work is immaculate. 👍

[druxey]

Well done! The forward edge of the knee is rounded off, so when at anchor the cable doesn't get damaged by rubbing against any sharp corners. See Greg's photos.

[Bitao]

On 8/5/2021 at 5:51 PM, bruce d said:

Your work is immaculate. 👍

No one can be perfect.I'm just trying to do better。

[allanyed]

Bitao 

Not only are you doing better, your work is better than most and I believe a lot of it is due to the fact that you take advice very well and do not accept mediocrity.  

Allan

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by allanyed

[Bitao]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maury S]

So clean!

Maury

[Bitao]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[druxey]

Complete with mortises and tenons. Oh my! Well done.

[BANYAN]

Impressive!  Love the tooling.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Bitao]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tony Hunt]

Absolutely beautiful.

[allanyed]

This build is a joy to follow!   I am watching your setups on the mill as I am in the very beginnings of learning how to make the most of using one.  In  addition your setups on the building board are well thought out.  Lots of gizmos that should be on my Christmas list!!!! 

Allan

[Bitao]

2 hours ago, allanyed said:

This build is a joy to follow!   I am watching your setups on the mill as I am in the very beginnings of learning how to make the most of using one.  In  addition your setups on the building board are well thought out.  Lots of gizmos that should be on my Christmas list!!!! 

Allan

Hello, Allan. The accurate positioning and stable clamping of the model are the key points. So I don't spend any less time making tools than I do making models. May you experience the joy of building!

[No Idea]

Wow your work is so inspiring - you are so precise its just lovely to see you progress.  I'm watching this for tips and something to aim for in the future.  Good luck moving forward.

[Bitao]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tony Hunt]

Incredible, exquisite, too close to perfect to be able to tell the difference.

[druxey]

Just make sure that the upper ends of those counter timbers are well protected. Don't ask how I know this! 

 

Beautiful work, as usual..

Edited August 29, 2021 by druxey

[Bitao]

I'm tired of sawing and sanding wood. I'll do some outfitting for a change. Start with the metal boiler. As long as the size of the parts and drawings accurately match, will not be affected by the hull deviation. The drawings are 1:36 and must be converted to 1:60(60% of the drawing size) before being made. In order to beautiful and firm, the main body using block copper milling processing, the basic use of riveting parts. The utility model avoids the unsightedness of the welding and the unsteadiness of the adhesive. The precision of machining is required higher.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Captain Poison]

That's an excellent work!

[Beef Wellington]

Beautiful work, and you work so quickly!