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On 2/21/2022 at 5:15 PM, niwotwill said:

using the Byrnes thickness sander

Thank you. Yes the Byrnes sander is proving far more helpful than I would have guessed, another great Byrnes tool. 
 

On 2/21/2022 at 8:13 PM, Rustyj said:

more of your usual excellent workmanship.

Or at least more of my usual work😂Thanks Rusty. 
 

1 hour ago, Trussben said:

nice progress

Thank you. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Here’s a task I’m glad to have behind me, completing the bulwark/inside fairing. Always a bit nerve racking to get a consistent 3/16 throughout. 
 

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Chisels, sanding tools, a Proxxon Pen sander, and a light touch with a Dremel all came into play. 
 

In addition to the fairing caps, which eventually will be covered up, I elected to use the same method I used for Cheerful, I inserted 1/8 balsa as a guide which together with the planking got me close to 3/16.  This too will eventually all be covered, it has served its purpose. My son said it would be helpful when he floats it in the pool, not funny. 
 

It’s looking more and more like a ship. Now for the wales after adding two rows of planking below. Once that’s done I disappear into a deep cave planking and planking and planking. 
 

Thank you for all the likes and comments, they are always appreciated. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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14 minutes ago, KirbysLunchBox said:

Slow and steady!

Taking out all that inside stuff and sanding to keep the bow the right shape and the hull symmetrical, slow is the only option😊

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Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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9 hours ago, glbarlow said:

Proxxon Pen sander

How do you get on with this tool - would you recommend it?

 

9 hours ago, glbarlow said:

It’s looking more and more like a ship...

...a very beautiful ship!

 

Derek

Cheers, Derek

 

Current build:   Duchess of Kingston

On hold:              HMS Winchelsea

 

Previous builds:  HMS SpeedyEnglish Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery),

                            Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!)

 

On the stocks:    18th Century Longboat

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I really like the balsa idea, I’m going to borrow that from you on my next project. Getting those frames sanded evenly from that angle was a pain!

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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5 hours ago, DelF said:
15 hours ago, glbarlow said:

 

How do you get on with this tool

Thank you for the comment.

 

I do recommend it, It only does light work on small areas, but sometimes that’s what I need and it can be more targeted than me with a sanding stick.  For the price it’s worth it as another tool in the bag, and who doesn’t need more tools. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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2 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said:

like the balsa idea,

I’m sure I borrowed it from someone else when I was building Cheerful, you’re welcome to it. It was especially helpful down around and below the deck area, far away from the fairing cap. The balsa makes it easy to cut and install. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Drop Plank and Wales

 

With the hull above the wales complete it’s time to move on to the rest of the hull. 

 

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Before doing that I took another look at the bollards. I think they turned out ok, especially as I wasn’t at all sure how to go about these at the start. One of the great things about Chuck’s Winchelsea is it's much like an actual ship in both appearance and construction. I’ve built eleven models at this point and not once before did I need give a second thought to bollards and how they integrate with the hull. Fun stuff.

 

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My work room was a complete mess from the work above the wales, there were tools I hadn’t seen for days and sawdust everywhere. My Rabbit Air Filter has been working over-time keeping up. So since I had the mess already it was a good time to rip and plane some ¼ planks. Even after several hours at it I know I don’t have enough to complete the hull, but I do have enough to make a good start. I’ve become quite fond of my Byrnes Thickness Sander, though I think I’m pretty consistent with the saw, the sander brings the planks within a .002 tolerance and makes it much easier to get an evenly planked hull. (I also planed the 7/32 planks for the wales post clean up but elected to carry the sander outside, it throws some significant saw dust.)

 

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With that done I took a day to do a deep clean of the workshop. It won’t last long like this, but it’s nice for the moment (ignore the pile up on the shelf, I could only spend so much time cleaning). The rest of the room looks the tool corner too, or it did on that day.

 

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I had a lot of trouble sorting out the drop plank when I built Cheerful. I guess that experience paid off, Winchelsea’s was a piece of cake. It helped, a lot, to have Chuck’s laser cut option and his abundantly clear instructions in the monograph.

 

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Following those instructions paid off, as it often does. Marking the two rows on each bulkhead made lining up the planks and making the necessary cuts easier to complete. I only wish the wood matched color a little better.

 

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I was a little baffled at first on how to terminate the plank at the counter. My working assumption had been it would just lay on top the bottom counter plank, but that’s not the case, it tucks in behind that bottom plank. Ohhh, I said when the fog cleared. I had to remove and replace my balsa filler piece to accommodate this tuck. It makes cutting the stern planks more fun since they have to be a tight fit on both ends, no slack to cut off it it had it just laid on top the counter. That fit is a tad more challenging as it has a nice twist and curve to it, which will get even more fun as I work my way towards the stern post. There may be a few do-overs before I’m done.

 

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Jewelry makers are a frequent source of modeling tools. I’ve long been a fan of my trusty travel iron to bend planks, but the curving and twisting is made more easy by this simple crafters hot air device. This relatively inexpensive tool is easy to hold and plenty hot enough to accomplish the job. The brass clamp in the background allows me to grip the tip of the plank without crushing it and keep my fingers from becoming part of the plank.

 

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This bend, twist, and curve was achieved without water, no soaking necessary, nor did it take long. The nice thing about this method is I can work my way to the right curve, each plank a project, until the plank lays right where it goes. If I go too far I can unbend using the same method. This photo and the one below are an advertisement for Chuck’s plank bending technique - it you haven’t tried it, you should.

 

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You might not think so looking at it, but the wales and all the planks above have a gentle but definitive S-curve. There’s no forcing a plank to fit, the heat bending, and in my case experimentation, is required to fit these planks. Once the curve is determined and I add the curve for the bow it just lays right in saying “glue me.” I mentioned before I soften the inside edge of the next plank (top or bottom depending which way I'm going) to tighten the fit.

 

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After laying in the four rows for the wales (the unpainted black strake is the 5th row, I’ll add it after painting the wales.) it was time to thin the wales at the bow to simulate them fitting into the rabbet. 

 

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After completing the other side I further tapered both  sides into the stem - any more will have to wait until the black strake is installed.

 

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I like how Winchelsea’s wales curve into the stern, such a sleek look these frigates.

 

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With the wales installed the lower counter is complete. In case you’re wondering about all the tape, Alaskan Yellow Cedar is a beautiful wood and easy to work with, part of the reason for that is its a bit soft. I banged Cheerful around enough that this time I’ve fluffed up some black masking tape or green gaffer tape to protect the many edges from me. I try to be careful, the tape helps when I’m not.

 

As an aside - I would have never know this if not for this forum - a minor dent or ding in the wood can be raised with steam. I hold my travel iron over the dent and magically the majority if not all the dent disappears. It takes a little temperance though, too much and the wood burns, the WOP peals off and the glue disintegrates - or so I’m guessing - fortunately this hasn’t happened to me…yet…

 

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I did a quick B&W print of the counter painting and what do you know, it’s a close fit. I pass on my thanks to the Winnie builders before me. My counter was heading a different direction back at the beginning but reading multiple build logs and asking questions steered me in the right direction, the adjustments and foundation I built then pays off now.

 

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With that I’ll be ready to tape, mask, and paint the wales after the WOP I applied as a sealant is dry.  Until then thank you for your likes and comments - it’s fun to share and read about the work we do on this great forum. I know the Winchelsea builders ahead of me are both inspiration and guidance.

Edited by glbarlow

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Looking sweet!!!!  Now its time for the long slog through the bottom planking.  Take you time.

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12 minutes ago, Chuck said:

time for the long slog

Thanks Chuck. I’m ready for it, each plank a project. I’ll just keep telling myself that. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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That looks awesome Glenn! For a second, after looking at your stellar planking job, I briefly thought about replanking my Winnie. She’s looking really nice, looking forward to seeing more.

JJ

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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11 hours ago, BobG said:

Beautiful work,

Thank you Bob, much appreciated 

2 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said:

She’s looking really nice,

Thank you, your planking is more than fine and impressive as well. 
 

2 hours ago, rafine said:

Wonderfully done Glenn.

Thank you Bob, I follow your build and think ‘some day I hope mine looks this good.’

 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Your preparation and execution is producing a wonderfully planked Winnie! Outstanding work Glenn!

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

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Beautiful work Glenn and great tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to detail so precisely the different steps 👍

Jean-Paul

 

'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks',

Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions

 

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1 hour ago, glbarlow said:

 

Thank you, your planking is more than fine and impressive as well. 
 

 

Thank you Glenn. That was my first go around at Chucks method of planking and dare I say it, but I’m excited to try it again soon. The results are well worth it.

Your planking work is very methodical and well planned, it’s setting the bar high. 

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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On 3/14/2022 at 11:13 AM, Rustyj said:

wonderfully planked Winnie!

Thanks Rusty. Planking is still the thing that scares me most, I really don’t want to hold it up to the light and find I  see through it 😳 so far so good.

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Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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3 hours ago, JpR62 said:

Thank you for taking the time to detail so precisely the different steps

There are a lot of great Winnie builds, I’m doing my small part to encourage more. 😊

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Exquisite planking once again Glenn. Your patience and diligence show in how neat and tidy your planking is.

 

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

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2 hours ago, Edwardkenway said:

patience and diligence

Thank you.  Those are two words I’m always striving to achieve, planking is a great opportunity to practice both. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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3 hours ago, Trussben said:

nice planking so far.

Thank you. The so far part is my ongoing challenge, I have a lot of planking in front of me😊

Regards,

Glenn

 

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Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Wales and upper planking complete

 

The wales are now painted and finished.  Before I move on to planking the rest of the hull I thought I’d pause and capture a few current state photos. Just on a simple blue background and with my iPhone, I’ll bring out the camera gear and white backdrop when I finish the hull.

 

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I chose to stay with my favorite Admiralty Ironworks Black. While purposed for simulating metal, I like the deep black matte finish it provides on wood. I started and finished with a coat of WOP. I like the smooth semi-polished finish the AYC wood allowed me to achieve. I sanded between coats with 400, then 800, and finally with 1200 grit sandpaper. Admiralty Paints come ready to use, but I thinned that a little more with distilled water.

 

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I feathered the wales and the black strake into the stem. It's nice to remember the top two rows will be covered by paper friezes later in the build, it made the surgery I did earlier easier to complete not worrying about color match.

 

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The black strake started at 1/32, I ran it through the thickness sander to about .63mm. Which I learned is about as thin as the sander can go. It stands proud of the planking and the wales stand proud of the strake, not by much but enough to look good, or so I think.

 

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Just to show my ship does have two sides.

 

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From the bow dead on. What is that dude looking at.

 

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The quarter shots - which does such a nice job showing the graceful lines.

 

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One from slightly above.

 

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A couple from full profile.

 

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And finally, the position my Winchelsea will be in for about the next 6 months. I’m taking a brief pause to take care of some neglected home chores, like tax prep. My photos won’t be very exciting for a while but I’ll post some progress photos from time to time just so you know I’m still here.

 

Thank you for your support, comments, and likes. They are always appreciated.

Edited by glbarlow

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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7 hours ago, CaptMorgan said:

flawless

Thank you, but it’s far from that. I feel every mistake 

Regards,

Glenn

 

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HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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1 hour ago, FrankWouts said:

Beautiful and steady work Glenn!

Thank you Frank!

 

4 minutes ago, westwood said:

Very nice Glenn, I look forward to the continuing

Thank you Dusan. You, Frank, and I are all about the same place. We’ll continue on together. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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