HMS Flirt by Dfell - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64

[Theodosius]

very well execuded! And for the wrong waterline, I secunde glbarlow - check with the masts. Perhaps it is enough to just fit the lower parts of the two masts into the holes and see how this comes out. Decide from there on. Or perhaps show us (not me, more the more experienced builders here) how it looks and perhaps you can get some good advice with that too! 🙂

[Dfell]

Hello - Having had a discussion with myself as part of me wanted to keep the build as it should be and along with comments by  Blue Ensign and others have decided to correct the water line, The decision on how to mount HMS Flirt will have to be worked out at a later date.

 

One corrected waterline. The Wale and waterline work better with each other.

 

 

 

The Hair Brackets are attached. Coloured using a felt tip pen.

 

 

Thank you for the advice / comments Blue Ensign, glbarlow and Theodosius.

Also for the 'Likes'.

 

Regards

 

Doug

Edited March 10, 2022 by Dfell

[glbarlow]

Well done. 

[Dave_E]

Nice detail painting Sir! 👍

[Blue Ensign]

The modified waterline looks excellent, good decision Doug.👍

 

B.E.

[Dfell]

Hello - further progress. The Upper rails and Swivel Gun Posts fixed in place having painted the upper area in a blue. The blue is Humbrol 25 with some white and purple added.

 

 

 

 

The Stern section is next on the to do list.

 

Thank you for looking and previous comments.

 

Regards

 

Doug

[Dfell]

Hello - some more progress - the stern completed. The instruction say to glue the Boom Crutches flush with the Stern Board but decided to fix them so  the Stern Board Rails would be flush with them. Also did not fit the top rail (part 60) - just put a Capping Rail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Catheads fitted - little sanding required to get them to fit neatly.

 

 

The Cathead End Caps painted in silver and gold.

 

 

 

Regards

 

Doug

 

 

[BobG]

Beautiful work, Doug! I'll be happy if my Flirt comes anywhere close to looking as good as yours. 

[DelF]

...great photography too...

[glbarlow]

Nice work, clean and sharp, both the model and the photography. 

[Theodosius]

I like the not painted stem, I did'nt had that idear, a perfekt solution for this smal boat.

[Dfell]

Hello - now the bow is done. The Main Rails and the Rail parts assembled plus the Cathead Knees as instructions although have painted the Rail parts underneath slightly different to how James H did. I kept the yellow stripe with a black surround to be in keeping with the Swivel Gun Supports.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your nice comments - BobG, DelF, glbarlow and Theodosius.

BobG - you're doing fine so far. Hopefully you have recovered from your medical treatment / op and you will be soon back at doing the hull planking.

 

Also thank you for the 'Likes'

 

Regards

 

Doug

[BobG]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:58 AM, Dfell said:

BobG - you're doing fine so far. Hopefully you have recovered from your medical treatment / op and you will be soon back at doing the hull planking.

 

Thanks, Doug, my oral surgery went just fine but I've been skiing, riding my bike and getting my spring garden in lately. I have too many things that I love to do. I need to carve out some time for working on my model!

 

[Dfell]

Hello - Deck Bulwark Cleats plus Belaying Pin Racks all pinned into place as instructed. The Belaying Pins I opted for wooden ones.

Also the Channels pinned into place with the Deadeyes which have the Strops yet to be pinned down at the correct angle.

The Steps I have decided to leave unpainted.

I opened the Strops to take the Deadeyes by sliding the Strops over a tapered dowel - they are very delicate. Found sliding Strops over a tapered dowel helped to keep their shape whereas using tweezers to open them up found I was distorting them but then again maybe doing it wrong.

 

 

 

Thank you for looking.

 

Regards

 

Doug

Edited April 27, 2022 by Dfell

[Dfell]

Hello – a bit of a step forward. Have managed to fit HMS Flirt using brass mounts onto a plinth.

Used the smallest brass stand from Amati but found the next size up did not match the top and bottom sections of the smaller one. So doing some measurements got a friend to make one by 3D printing which I was then able to check that the waterline was level before finding a local engineer to make one in brass.

 

Deck 'furniture' in place but not glued down as I first will get the cannons in place and rigged. The cannons are made - just adding the small blocks.

 

 

Thank you for looking.

 

Regards

 

Doug

 

 

 

 

[whitejamest]

Very neat, crisp work. She is looking lovely. 

[Dfell]

Hello - it's been awhile since last posting as work on the cannons has been excruciating as they are so small as everyone has mentioned plus a spell of the dreaded Covid and other things getting in the way.

Anyway here are some pictures of the cannons at various stages.

 

 

 

 

Only done one half so far with a rather bad attempt at some frapping.

 

 

Thank you for looking and I will push on and get the other side done.

Thank you whitejamest for your comment - much appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Doug

 

 

[Dfell]

Hello - quite a few steps forward. Pumps made with added spout plus winch assembled.

 

 

The instructions say to make the pumps with a 40mm long dowel but as they drop through the hole situated below on the lower deck resulting in the pumps being too low. Therefore have added a toothpick painted black so the pumps drop down to the required height.

 

 

Anchors assembled - using black tape for the metal bands.

 

Finally got all the cannons rigged and all the deck stuff mostly glued in place except pumps - to be fitted at a later stage when safe to do so.

 

 

Now have started the Cutter as per instruction.

 

 

Thanks for looking and the 'Likes'.

 

Regards

 

Doug

[allanyed]

Hi Doug,

Your work is a pleasure to see and the photography is well done!!

 

Couple questions about your build, hope you don't mind.   

Is there a reason the knee of the head is not tapered?   I thought this was a standard design feature on British ships, but may be wrong.

Is the rigging line on the cannon from the kit?

 

Thanks for sharing your very fine build.

Allan

[Dfell]

Hello Allan - appreciate you looking in and your nice comments.

Unfortunately I don’t know the answer to your question concerning the tapering ‘cos am not understanding what it is you’re asking as my knowledge about these ships is lacking somewhat - perhaps someone like Blue Ensign would be best. I find it hard enough just to follow the kit instructions…..

The rigging line is leftover from previous builds as the kit doesn’t supply the thinner thread.

Regards

 

Doug

Edited September 7, 2022 by Dfell

[Dave_E]

Doug, just found your build log. Beautiful work Sir. I am now a follower. 👍😀

[Gregory]

5 hours ago, allanyed said:

Is there a reason the knee of the head is not tapered? 

I suspect a good reason, is that it is not mentioned in the otherwise comprehensive instruction manual..

 

Great job, so far Doug.

It says a lot for Chris and Vanguard that people relatively new to the hobby can  have such good results.

 

These kits are so much better than anything else out there, and few this side of Syren will mention tapering the stem...

 

 

 

[Dfell]

Hello Gregory

I realised I probably gave the impression the instructions are difficult - I not sure what I was trying to say other my historical knowledge of these boats especially the names of things is not very good. The instructions and photographs are excellent along with the quality of the parts which as you say make it possible to do the build well.

Chris am sure would make his Vanguard models as accurate as possible.

 

Regards

 

Doug

[Gregory]

10 minutes ago, Dfell said:

I realised I probably gave the impression the instructions are difficult

I didn't get that impression at all.  And I hope Chris doesn't get the impression I feel his instructions are lacking.

 

I was just trying to make sure you did not feel your lack of knowledge about the shaping of the stem, other than what was provided in the kit  was something to

feel worried about.  There are details about these ships  that 99% of kit builders will never be aware of.

[Blue Ensign]

She’s looking great Doug, a fine clean job you’re doing.

 

As far as the head tapering is concerned, Allan is correct in that the head did taper from top to bottom, but as far as the kit is concerned such adjustments may affect the other kit designed features, such as fit of a figurehead, and other features around the headworks. In my humble opinion best left alone unless you’re planning a modification early in a kit build, lest the outcome looks not as good as the original.

 

B.E.

[allanyed]

4 hours ago, Dfell said:

I don’t know the answer to your question concerning the tapering ‘cos am not understanding what it is you’re asking

Doug,

The below sketch will explain more easily.  Why kit makers ignore this basic design feature is a good question to ask them.  

Not sure on the dimensions on your vessel, but if it is 12" at the stem for example, it would be close to 6 inches at the forward end where the figure head rests.  

 

 

34 minutes ago, Gregory said:

I suspect a good reason, is that it is not mentioned in the otherwise comprehensive instruction manual..

I have no doubt you are correct, but what is better, ignoring it or fixing it?  I may be wrong, but Vanguard strikes me as a company that is very interested in hearing about possible mistakes and/or omissions and fixing them.

 

Allan

[James H]

37 minutes ago, Dfell said:

Chris am sure would make his Vanguard models as accurate as possible.

 

No matter how much work is put into a kit, nothing can ever be absolutely represented in the minutest of detail when the kit needs to be released without the company going bust because it's spending too much time on stuff no one will ever notice. Well, almost no one. 

[chris watton]

This is the second time allanyed had brought this up.

 

It is not a mistake, but a compromise. Those who buy and build my kits range from complete beginners to true experts. For the former, asking them to file/sand each face of the prow is a big ask, and a big assumption. Conversely, those that know, can. As far as I am aware, no commercial kit asks the modeller to taper the prow.

 

 

[allanyed]

12 minutes ago, chris watton said:

As far as I am aware, no commercial kit asks the modeller to taper the prow.

 

 

You are right about that Chris, it seems that with the exception of Syren, most, if not all, kits have it wrong.  But, some might call this an opportunity for some kit maker to  stand above the rest even if it is only mentioned in a few sentences with a simple sketch in the instructions.   

Allan

 

[James H]

3 minutes ago, allanyed said:

You are right about that Chris, it seems that with the exception of Syren, most, if not all, kits have it wrong.  But, some might call this an opportunity for some kit maker to  stand above the rest even if it is only mentioned in a few sentences with a simple sketch in the instructions.   

Allan

 

Ok, this is derailing an excellent build log with material which is totally pointless.

 

Let's respect what Doug is setting out to do here. 

 

If you want a topic on prow tapering, which isn't included on any commercial kit, or ever been asked for to my knowledge, then please open a topic about it ad create discussion there. Same goes for application of a ship's name to the stern, period depending.