HMS Dragon 1760 by Siggi52 - FINISHED - Scale 1:48 - English 74-Gun ship

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

today I turned over the first chairs for the lobby. The other chairs are for his privat cabin.

 

 

 

 

When the Dragon was launched, March 4th 1760 the young Georg was the Prince of Wales and his grandpa Georg II King. This is the picture of his inauguration as the new British King Georg III, Oct. 25th 1760. I don't know if he lost his title Prince of Wales and the patron of this ship, because he was't married at this time and had no children. 

 

But the captain got a copy of this picture and hang it in the lobby. He was here the representative of the King.

 

 

David, the rum can come. We loan drinking glasses from the ward room    

 

Regards,

 

Siggi

 

 

[Flamborough]

Hello Siggi, great work in every detail !! Who is the lady on the other paintings ?

 

Monty

[Siggi52]

I don't know Monty, may be his mistress? He did't tell me.

 

Siggi

[src]

Siggi, those chairs are anything but "routine" Well done.

Sam

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

a last update to the lobby. I spend the captain a slant lid desk for his own use. So he could sit here, write his letters or doing his homework and look out of the window if his men are busy.

 

I think then would be this room ready. Or did I forget something?

 

 

 

One last picture of a chair I took yesterday. Before starting with building them, I was't sure to get them so accurate. But when at work it was't so bad. Except that they are sooo small (but nano technology is the future) it was not very complicated. Only the battens between the legs where complicated, because I did't make holes in the legs and gluing the wires to the round surfaces was very frustrating. But at last it went all fine. So, please stop the men with the white jackets.

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

Edited November 6, 2015 by Siggi52

[WackoWolf]

Now what are you going to do about food?

[Siggi52]

Hello Joe,

 

food was prepared in the pantry, downstairs. But I would't show it here. May be in his cabin some wine glasses.

 

Regards,

Siggi

[michael mott]

Siggi, outstanding work on those chairs. I did not expect you to really go that far, but am glad that you did. The final results speak volumes of you dedication to a wonderful overall model, and your skills.

 

Michael

[SJSoane]

 

Siggi,

 

That is as good as it gets!

 

Mark

[albert]

Hi Siggi, wonderful work.

[Siggi52]

Good morning,

 

thank you all for your kind comments. 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[src]

Jaw dropping work once again Siggi. As far as forgetting something, where would a captain clean his fire arm? or perhaps polish his sword? Maybe play a little music?

Sam

[Siggi52]

Hello Sam,

 

thank you for your questions. I think the captain would't clean anything, he had his servants for such things. To play music or anything els, he had his great cabin, with a balcony! 

 

The work at the shipyard delayed a litte, because I have bought a Black Forrest clock and have there some things to fix. So don't worry, I will be back soon.

 

Regards,

Siggi

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

the furniture for the great cabin is now ready. First a desk and a sofa.

 

 

 

And here is all finished and painted.

 

 

 

 

The next days I will make some smaller things, like books, glasses and bottles. I would't make lanterns for these cabins, because I think that the servants of the captain will bring them in when it is necessary. 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[mtaylor]

Now there's an image and thought.. a cannon behind the couch.   I love it. 

 

That is some incredible detailing you're doing, Siggi.   Very well done.

[Flamborough]

Hallo Siggi,

great work I like the sofa and the new table. Maybe you try to make except glasses, books and bottles also for the small round table a clay pipe and tobacco box 

 

Monty

[Siggi52]

Mark, did't you have a cannon behind the couch? Ok, I have only two Brown Bess's, but for the start 

 

Monty, it's your idea, so why not try to build one. (1:48) The tobacco box please with the Minden scene, if I have a wish free. 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

so, the last pictures of the quarter deck without deck beams. 

 

I build some books, bottles and glasses. May be the captain is discussing with a guest something and spend a glas of Port or Madera during that. 

 

 

 

The next thing would be the poop deck. Here I have a question. When I get Brian Lavery right, then the ships before 1800 did't have iron hopes around the masts. Only woldings and only on made masts. Was the mizzen mast a made mast? I read there different things. Lavery drew woldings above the poop deck, but iron hopes also below that. 

 

Should I build woldings and when, where?

 

Next question. Should I build also partners of the mast at the poop deck. At the contemporary models you see often nothing or just a turned ring, like this from the Bellona. 

 

 

Goodwin wrote that it was a more common practice, that the partners where higher then the deck beams, but also higher then the deck, what you could see at the Victory. At the quarter deck I build it so. So what is right?

 

And when I see the last picture, a last question. Did't they have belaying pins in the cross beams? I know no model that have them. Or is that only a short cut?

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

 

[druxey]

There is only one woolding on the mizzen mast, at the bottom of the hounds, Sigge. If there were more, the gaff would not be able to slide up and down without catching. Clearly, the mizen mast is not a made mast.

 

Your furniture - especially the table, Windsor chairs and cabinetry - is lovely. I imagine books were all leather-bound back then. Somehow the yellow book jumps out at me.

 

The large number of belaying pins in racks and on the cross-pieces began to appear once the open rails along the quarter deck and poop were closed in. It was then no longer possible to belay along the rails. So you would not see many belaying pins in 1760, as all the rails were open then.

 

The partners at poop level would be very light, so just the circle of wedges around the mast would be visible, as in your last photo.

[Siggi52]

Hello Druxey,

 

thank you for your detailed answer. Even when the books had leather covers, these covers where also often colored. But they had also covers of paper and cloth. I think for the cheaper novels or notebooks. 

 

So with the mizzen mast I have nothing more to make and also with the partners. I make them level with the deck. But with the standards and cross beams I have a problem to understand it. If you look at models from before 1760 and after, there are no belaying pins. The model of the Bellona is from around 1780 and has also no pins. So should I build them or not? The standards and cross beam are in the plan of interior listed. 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[druxey]

No pins in the bitts, in my opinion, Siggi. The rails at the bulwarks are where lines were belayed at that time period. Other lines tied off at the bitts around the crosspiece and standard timberheads.

[paulsutcliffe]

Hi Siggi

I would have to agree with Druxey about the yellow book, if you look in any library at the old books they are all the same colour leather bound usually with gold writing/titles, I have some very old cookbooks from this period and even they are brown leather

Love the furniture and details you are putting into your model, not sure how you are doing such fantastic miniatures

Regards

Paul

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

thank you Druxey, I would say the same but did't know it exactly. 

Paul, thank you for your kind words. You all may be right with the yellow book. But in those days, the books where not old. But I agree that the color is a little too yellow. 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[Flamborough]

Hello, were also colors such as yellow, red, green and so on were common in the 18th. These books were bound with colored marble paper.

 

Monty 

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

just to end the discussion on book covers, here two pictures. One paper cover and one leather cover.

 

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

I was not very busy at the shipyard the last week, but I finished the partners for the mizzen mast and the skylight for the lobby. 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

[dgbot]

Beautiful what more can I say.

David B

[albert]

Hi Siggi, beautiful work.

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

it is done, the last deck is planked.     I hope that the captain will spend some drinks this evening. But writing this,  I haven't seen him the last time 

 

Looking for some details, I fond this picture. That was exactly 6 month ago. So I worked 6 month at this deck!

 

 

Cutting and painting the planks was the first step. I lived 3 days only from wood dust.

 

 

A last view without planks

 

 

and the first with

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

 

 

 

 

[druxey]

Well done, Siggi! Looking good.

Edited December 4, 2015 by druxey