rafine Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share #391 Posted February 8, 2014 Thanks for the nice words Rusty. Thanks also to the "likes". Rusty, I'm sure you'd agree that one of the nicest things about this hobby is that the enjoyment of doing so much of the work far outweighs whether anyone will ever be able to see it later. Bob muzzleloader, Ryland Craze and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted February 8, 2014 Share #392 Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) That looks old fashion good Bob ! And it is just what Rusty is saying,You and 10.000 members of MSW is knowing that it is there . But is that not with the whole build when it is finished? A lot of stuff you don't see it but it is there. That's why we are taking pictures. When someone is seeing the model for the first time, you can show them the pictures to see what they don't see at the model at that moment. And the comment you've got then is WOW !!!!!! Edited February 8, 2014 by Sjors Rustyj 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted February 8, 2014 Share #393 Posted February 8, 2014 Fabulous work Bob!I like it a lot.I think leaving select areas of the deck unplanked will be a great idea.My bible on the subject is 'Navy Board Ship Models 1650-1750'by John Franklin ISBN 0-85177-454-7.I bought my copy around 15 years ago,but I find it one of my best reference books.He discusses at great length(with some good drawings) the construction used in these models.There are many examples of how planking is omitted and there are a few ways to do it so it looks right.If you do not have the book already,I thoroughly recommend it to you,or any one else reading this who is thinking of going down route. Kind Regards Nigel WackoWolf 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share #394 Posted February 8, 2014 Thanks so much Sjors and Nigel. Nigel, I"ve had the book for years, as well, and it's always been a favorite. Bob NMBROOK 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted February 8, 2014 Share #395 Posted February 8, 2014 Thanks so much Sjors and Nigel. Nigel, I"ve had the book for years, as well, and it's always been a favorite. Bob I thought you may have Bob Read and reread my copy several hundred times Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 9, 2014 Share #396 Posted February 9, 2014 Nice detailing Bob B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted February 9, 2014 Share #397 Posted February 9, 2014 Very nice indeed Bob. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share #398 Posted February 9, 2014 Thanks, as always, B.E. and Grant. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted February 11, 2014 Share #399 Posted February 11, 2014 Beautiful work, Bob! Your cabin looks great! Thomas Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share #400 Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks Thomas. Much appreciated. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share #401 Posted February 12, 2014 I decided to attack the stern exterior next, beginning with the stern transom and then moving to the quarter galleries. The transom work was relatively straight forward. I used the laser cut transom piece, which was a little distorted in shape and required some correction to make it symmetrical. After painting it black, I made the various moldings from boxwood strip, wet heat bending those pieces that required it. I chose to leave the moldings natural wood. I then added two pieces of scrollwork from the PE sheet in the kit, which I painted white. They didn't match the plans, because it turns out that an early "test" sheet was included in my kit. This is of no concern to me because no one knows what it looked like anyway. Of more concern was that the sheet contained no lettering to do the Essex name. As a result, I used some decal lettering from my model railroad days. The quarter galleries are next. These will be largely, if not entirely, scratch built. Bob BETAQDAVE, fatih79, realworkingsailor and 15 others 18 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted February 12, 2014 Share #402 Posted February 12, 2014 Looks great Bob. Nice job coming up with the letters for the name. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted February 12, 2014 Share #403 Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Bob -- I just read through your log, and felt like I was reading an old novel about Overcoming Adversity to Win the Prize! My jaw dropped at the sight of the cabin furniture, and I have to express my great admiration for your overall skill. Can't wait to see more. Cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted February 12, 2014 Share #404 Posted February 12, 2014 The master at work ! Great work Bob. Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share #405 Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks Augie, Martin and Sjors. You guys are too kind. Thanks also to the "likes". Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted February 12, 2014 Share #406 Posted February 12, 2014 Great stuff Bob all round. I look forward to seeing your gallery build. Love the cabin details - wonderful joinery. Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share #407 Posted February 13, 2014 Thanks so much Alistair. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #408 Posted February 16, 2014 It's now time to tackle the quarter galleries. Sam had been kind enough to provide me with resin castings to replace the kit metal castings, but I decided to go ahead and scratch build the entire assembles from boxwood. After completing the port side gallery, I'm happy with my choice. It was mostly fun and I like the look of it. The only non-scratch parts that I used were the window frames, which are the laser cut kit pieces. As can be seen from the photos, I worked progressively , first adding some counter planking, then the moldings and filler pieces below the windows, then the parts for the window framing and finally the upper and lower finishing parts. It was all pretty straight forward, except for the lower finishing, which has a variety of complex curves and was the cause for considerable foul language before I got it to fit. Hopefully, it will go easier on the second try. The trick now is to duplicate, as closely as possible, all this work on the starboard side. Bob Sjors, mobbsie, samueljr and 21 others 24 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted February 16, 2014 Share #409 Posted February 16, 2014 Excellent work Bob!!!You cannot beat real wood for details like this. Kind Regards Nigel Martin W 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted February 16, 2014 Share #410 Posted February 16, 2014 Looks really good on a very challenging part of the build - nice work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueljr Posted February 16, 2014 Share #411 Posted February 16, 2014 Bob, Really nice job. You're absolutely correct - the "trick" will be duplicating it on the other side. That was one of the reasons why I went with a cast gallery. There is a certain "weight" and symmetry to the galleries that gives them their appeal. Asking a builder to get it right once is passable but twice on the same boat in this small scale is a tall order. One I'm certain you're up to. I didn't feel comfortable leaving it as the only option. I figured that really skilled builders would undertake it on their own and put their own "touches" on it. Sam Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted February 16, 2014 Share #412 Posted February 16, 2014 If anyone can handle a tall order it's Bob! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 16, 2014 Share #413 Posted February 16, 2014 Very nice Bob and I'n sure there will be a mirror image of the starboard side! No pressure Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted February 16, 2014 Share #414 Posted February 16, 2014 wow, very neat. nice job Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted February 16, 2014 Share #415 Posted February 16, 2014 Nicely done Bob, I don't think this will present you with a problem, your skills are up in the stratosphere. Be Good mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted February 16, 2014 Share #416 Posted February 16, 2014 That looks really great Bob, Is there something that you can not do ??? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #417 Posted February 16, 2014 Thanks so much to all of you for the very generous comments and the "likes". I hope that your confidence is well placed. We will soon see. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share #418 Posted February 20, 2014 The starboard gallery is now done. While not exactly the same as the port side, I think it's pretty close. Prior to attaching the port side pieces, I had used them as templates to lay out the corresponding starboard pieces. Because of the almost inevitable small differences in hull shape etc., the parts still required fitting, but all went relatively smoothly. Even the lower finishing, which was still the trickiest part, was a lot easier the second time around. I'm still debating with myself over what to do next. Bob dafi, BareHook, Trussben and 21 others 24 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted February 20, 2014 Share #419 Posted February 20, 2014 Amazing cabin! Are you going to put "checkerboard" canvas over the cabin planks? I'm not sure if american ships did this though. Do you plan to have a removeable poop deck or other access, or just peek in through the windows? Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted February 20, 2014 Share #420 Posted February 20, 2014 Very nice Bob, You are saying that the gallery on starboard side is a little different then the port side. How do you see that ? You are running around her ? Or do you using a mirror ? It looks really great ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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