KeithAug

9 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

By the way my comment above is incorrect.  When taking down the chute in the lee of the mainsail or foresail the only line available to the crewman hauling it down is the sheet

 

Roger

My recollection of what the French crew did was as follows:-

The boat started to broach.

A crew member released the spinnaker sheet to recover from the broach.

The sheet ran out completely leaving the spinnaker flying like a giant flag.

The crew then tried to take the spinnaker down by lowering the spinnaker halyard. 

With no ability to control the sail it inevitably ended up in the sea and then disintegrated.

1 hour ago, Veszett Roka said:

The latch always facing down, allowing the outer (luv side) sheet to fall out from, and allowing the spi to come back to the lee

Veszett, thank you - I'm sure your expertise vastly outweighs mine.

3 hours ago, TBlack said:

My recollection is that it faces up which allows the pole to drop away. Are you going to rig the pole or just lay it on deck?

Thank you Tom I had thought that might be the case. The spinnaker pole will be positioned vertically in front of the fore mast. Ready for use.

11 minutes ago, michael mott said:

Hmmmm why not? just a little spring😉

Michael - I could wind one. It would only have to be 1mm OD - that's the size of the wire used to make the latch.

1 hour ago, Roger Pellett said:

 On a particularly memorable occasion,

Roger,

Thank you for reminding me Roger. I remember sailing off the north coast of Guernsey

. The (French) boat ahead was flying a spinnaker but we though the conditions were a bit too variable and didn't have ours up. One particularly violent gust panicked the French crew who dropped the spinnaker to avoid a broach. Unfortunately the crew weren't quite ready and as we sailed past the spinnaker disappeared below the hull. A few moments later about half of it reappeared on the the other side of the boat still attached to the sheets. The remainder was presumably wrapped around the keel. They looked very crest fallen.

On another point do you recall whether the beak on the end of the spinnaker boom generally faces up or down. I can see advantages and disadvantages with both up and down orientation, but i just can't remember how we used to do it?

5 hours ago, Keith Black said:

Keith, more beautiful details. Seeing the Germania fitted with her completed mast is going to be a treat. 

Thank you Keith, But i will need a wide angle lens.

6 hours ago, wefalck said:

I just love that 'brassy' iron-work

Eberhard, thank you. I suspect it will look less blingy in a couple of years time.

Very nicely done, you must do a build log next time.

Thank you Phil / Mark I will take on board your comments. I have now made the fore and main masts, the fore and main top masts, the fore and main booms and the fore and main gaffs. None of them are actually complete as sundry strops and sheaves have to be added. That left 3 more spars to be made i.e. the spinnaker boom and the 2 main top sail spars.

I started with the spinnaker boom which was turned to diameter and then tapered each end by sanding it in the lathe. Turning down long thin dowels requires the support of a steady. Rather than mount the steady I improvised by putting a piece of wood in the back of the tool post. I then mounted a drill in the chuck and bored a hole in the wood slightly larger than the required boom diameter. I then turned the boom to size using this arrangement.

I the proceeded to make the gooseneck fitting for the boom.

The boom part of the hinge was much the same as previously described.

I then discovered a problem. The mast bracket was of insufficient width. This meant that the boom fowled the mast hoops when in the vertical stowed position. I had to remake this.

I then needed to make the beak. I don't have any details of this so I used a typical example from and internet search.

The latch doesn't work.

I then made the topsail spars. These are simple tapered dowels with end fittings and eyes.

That's about it for the masts spars and booms, at least for the moment. Now on to something else - a change is as good as a rest.

1 hour ago, Wintergreen said:

since all this with chemo really boggs up my brain.

Hakan - You do remarkably well, i admire your fortitude.

55 minutes ago, Wintergreen said:

What they actually are doing is figuring out the run of the planks

Interesting - more "suck it and see" than I might have expected.

Lovely boat, look forward to seeing her come to life.

On 2/4/2022 at 5:00 PM, Wintergreen said:

Next up will be to explode each frame into separate members and organizing them on A4 for printouts. 

I wish i had learned CAD. Too late now though for this old dog. 

On 2/4/2022 at 6:18 PM, Wintergreen said:

They almost fill the entire stern with timbers to have the planks to meet timber at all times.

 

It hurts my head trying to work out what they are doing?

1 hour ago, michael mott said:

You can always tell the clerk that it is a gift for your daughter😉

 

Michael. In these woke days I'm not sure that I should worry about buying a slinky leather skirt - beautiful travellers.

Druxey, Eberhard,  Hakan. I have asked my wife to go through her gloves draw but failing that I will try paint.

Thank you Druxey, Keith and Mark.  I don't think my wife would wear it which is the most telling test.

10 hours ago, michael mott said:

Absolutely lovely, do the saddles have leather on them or are they just metal?

Michael - thank you. I don't really have photos that show that detail but there are a couple of fuzzy shadows that suggest the inside of there saddle has some form of covering so I guess that will be leather. I may try lining the face but it will depend finding something suitable to do it with - perhaps a visit to my wife's glove draw?

11 hours ago, Dr PR said:

I have used the Dremel brand steel wire brushes

Phil - Thanks - I had thought that I might take Dremel brushes and soak the subs in CA glue to see if this would reduce bristle loss. 

Toni - thanks - if the above doesn't work I will give them a try.

I finished off the other ends of the gaffs before moving on to the saddles.

I started the saddle with a strip of 1/2" wide x .040" thick brass. This was milled along its length to a depth of .020"

I marked out the ovals for the saddle on a piece of card and then attached it to the brass strip with double sided tape.

I then cut out the ovals with a jewellers saw before finishing with a file.

I then annealed the brass and bent the ovals around scrap lengths of steel bar of the same diameter as the masts.

I then made the attachment brackets for the gaff out of strips of .020" brass. These were bent to the correct radius with the ends turned out to form the hinge brackets. The piece of aluminium is a spacer to get the brackets correctly positioned.

The brackets were then soft soldered to the saddle.

The stirrup for the gaff lift was then made. A piece of 3/32" tube was part turned to mark the cutting locations. Holes were then drilled and a piece of shaped .040" wire was bent, inserted and soldered.

Finally the small bridging piece was soldered to form the eye. The tube was then cut away.

The saddles were then mounted on the gaffs.

Druxey, Gary, Bill and Jon, Thank you all for your kind comments. It seems amazing that I started this build 3 years ago - how time flies. My hope is that some time this year I will get started on another build. As I get older I find myself rejecting long duration projects!

On 2/3/2022 at 1:49 AM, mtaylor said:

Do they have to be brass?   I have some that are nylon or some other plastic for the bristles.

 Mark -, preferably steel or brass - for removing  excess solder.

Great project. I must have seen her while visiting the museum, but don’t recollect. I look forward to seeing her develop.

35 minutes ago, Roger Pellett said:

In 1985, I made a trip to China to investigate business opportunities.

So now we know, it was you who was responsible for initiating Chinese world manufacturing dominance.

The internet is festooned with small wire brushes for Dremel type drills. My experience is that most of them are rubbish. They either  disintegrate or wrap themselves into a tight ball. Can anyone recommend a source of high quality small rotary wire brushes? By small I mean up to 1" diameter.

On 1/30/2022 at 6:39 AM, rwiederrich said:

I take a metal folder tab,  cut it….bend it, then cut to shape and drill and add securing pin.  
paint black and run the chain sheets through.  

Very nicely done Rob - I must remember that.

20 hours ago, Jond said:

 Living and sailing here in Maine each summer, we know well about 5 PM and the wind dies.   

Jon - In Scotland the wind always dies about 5 miles before the anchorage which inevitably means that the hook only goes down as dusk descends. Just as the last rays of sunlight fade the wind starts blowing at about 25 knots directly into the mouth of anchorage. My sailing pal says it is due to diaurnal variation but I just think winds are perverse.

20 hours ago, Jond said:

The halyard came off, the sheet chain broke, the stays had an issue and while fixing them a turnbuckle broke.  Putting in the very last seizing for the last hoop, the sail ripped.

Jon - That's not too bad. I find it much worse when i leave the model all ship shape and then turn up the next morning to discover all the failures.

1 hour ago, Brett Slater said:

As someone who is yet to venture beyond plastic and wood but is thinking of metal work can anyone recommend books or other resources that would help me get started ? 

Brett - alternatively look up Gerald A Wingrove - he has written an number of books and you can find some of his work on MSW. Sadly Gerald is no longer with us. RIP.

53 minutes ago, Brett Slater said:

As someone who is yet to venture beyond plastic and wood but is thinking of metal work can anyone recommend books or other resources that would help me get started ? 

Brett - this would be a good start:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Model-Building-Brass-Ken-Foran/dp/0764354949

Arrrrgh! You have all shattered my dreams. I thought Valeriy had discovered some way of only making the solder go where he wanted it to go. I am a broken man!

23 hours ago, mbp521 said:

since this area was described in documentation as being the latrines

The crew are obviously a bit pedantic about sanitary cleanliness. Don't you think that a bit of realism in the pan might add to the overall effect?🙂

On 1/31/2022 at 6:10 PM, mbp521 said:

Building of the port side latrine. Since I detailed the starboard side, I left this one simplified with the door closed.

Perhaps the door should be slightly ajar, with a glimpse of the seated occupant smoking his corn cob pipe.😀

You can see that I am very taken with your Bogs.

Your work is beautifully neat as always.