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On the California accessibility issue, I'd just like to point out that California has excellent train service from LA up the coast. Many trains a day with stops in small towns all along the way, essentially European-style commuter rail. The last time we visited the Channel Islands, that's what we did, arrived in LA but didn't rent a car until we got off the train in Ventura. It's not difficult and traffic becomes a non-issue; just expand your mind from assuming cars are the only way to get around. We were planning to do the same thing this year before 2020 did its best Vasa impression and tentatively hope to do so in 2021. As as plains/midwestern resident, I'd like to suggest that the saltwater folks expand their horizons and be open to learning something new once a decade. A dark horse candidate would be Kansas City, much easier to get to than Toledo or Duluth (bigger airport), which has a world-class steamboat museum downtown (and another one a few hours upriver near Omaha, perfect for a day trip) and a lot of affordable convention/lodging options. There are plenty of us in the midwest and a lot of good models would show up at such a central location that's within a long day's drive of everything from Denver to MSP to Chicago to Memphis to Dallas. A special conference theme could be freshwater maritime history, not just of the interior US but all over the world. There's also a lot of access to less-well-known Civil War and American frontier history (including Lewis & Clark) that would complement the broader historical interests most of us have.

Looks so good. One detail I love in original steamboat engine timbers is the scarph joints between the timbers (both between the horizontal timbers and between the slanted timber and the angled surface below it). It'd be really hard to do right in a model and would barely by seen, but it makes a lot of sense for strengthening the original assembly for the pounding it took from engine operation. You can see these in your photo above and on the Arabia's timbers as well:

Yeah, my goal is just to make it as representative as I can, and if I ever show it to a real expert (unlikely) I'll have The Conversation about how it Isn't Right.

Those look great!

Petr, This is an issue with the kit, which makes no allowance for the "proper" formation of the stem and stern. It would actually be fantastic to have the carved stem/stern pieces for planks to fit into, but I can understand why the kit maker decided not to replicate that and I decided it would be too hard for me to fabricate. Here is a good image of the modern reconstruction showing the stem (source here): And here the original piece showing the precarved stem and the run of planking into it (source here): And here is the current model: On the real thing, the planks appear to blend seamlessly into the keel, growing ever thinner until their overlap vanishes into a single surface that becomes smooth before the tip of the keel (I say "appear" because the carved stem takes care of the most delicate part). On the model, there are four ways that I can see to handle the plank ends reaching the keel: (1) Bevel the planks ends at a fairly sharp angle, more like one would do with launch or bluff-bowed ship. This is what the Dusek kit images show and what most people seem to do. This is easiest but, I think, less accurate as the bow/stern has none of the smooth flow into the keel of the real thing. See, for example, this image from jack.aubrey's log of the similar Gokstad ship: (2) Carve a full stem/stern piece to accept the planks. This would be the absolutely most accurate but was beyond my skill set. (3) Sand all the planks down incredibly thin to achieve the right blended effect, which would make them extremely delicate (there's a reason the Vikings preferred shaping a one-piece stem instead!). I decided that this, too, was beyond my skill set and was also very risky. (4) What I chose to do: Attach the planks parallel to the keel (with a large gluing surface for stability), then once the planking is completed, carve/sand the planks to blend into the stem more like the real thing, and possibly even to mark joints that simulate the pre-carved stem. I felt this would be easier to do once they were thoroughly glued in place than trying to pre-shape each plank just right with very narrow margins for error. This does result in the planks going carvel a bit earlier than on the real thing, but I think the different will be pretty subtle once it's finished, and hopefully mitigated by shaping the final result to more closely mimic the real thing. This also supports my goal of using a bit of filler to mask the minor gaps between planks at the ends, as this is where it should look like a single blended piece anyway! I decided I was willing to trade a bit more carvel planking than the real thing for what I hoped would be a more realistic transition into the keel, as I think the latter will be a lot more noticeable on the final model. I hope I'm right and that it works out the way I want! Thanks for the observent comment that challenged me to better explain my thought process here. Does this make sense to you?

Gotta say, that sail display will look amazing. As do the rowers. Inspirational work.

Sure, you can always explain a given situation or appearance. You can have, say, a model railroad locomotive that's all shiny. The narrative may be that it's just out of the paint shop, but the eye will likely still see it as "wrong" if its surroundings are more weathered. Or a cannon that's too shiny because it was just replaced, but it'll still look out of place among grimier ones. The point it, if there's a concern that the anchor somehow feels "wrong", it could be because the eye unconciously sees it as standing out from the deck. Just a theory.

Just catching up on this, everything looks really nice. Haven't thought much about this kind of ship before, so this is a fun introduction.

More problem-solving and warnings for future builders. First, the planks are fitting less and less well as I progress up the hull. It's possible, even likely, that I'm not laying them out exactly as the kit designer intended, which is a problem with pre-spiled planks. But I think it's more than that. For example, on the fourth strake, if you line up the stern plank thus: the bow plank ends up sticking out this far past the previous plank: I think that's way beyond an error I could have made, and I'm sure I'm using the right planks. Though one improvement the kit could make is to lasercut or otherwise label the actual wood sheets with the plank numbers. You have to consult the plans to match the wood sheets, and it's pretty confusing when there are lots of very similar planks right next to each other. In the last strake, I ended up needing to nibble a bit off the plank ends to keep the end correct, but this time it's ridiculous. So something needs to be cut. Oddly, if you match the actual end of the plank with the stem (so you'd be cutting off extra from the middle portion where it butts against the stern plank), the curve doesn't fit at all. But if you butt the orginal end (as shown in the photo), the curve fits nicely, just with a lot of extra. So I cut it off at the bow end. Strange but effective. Next problem: The deck insert does not match the shape of the planking; it sticks out rather badly into the run of the planking and needs to be carved back quite a bit. For example, look closely at where the deck interacts with the frames in the photo below (especially between the two foreground frames), and envision how a plank set into the notch in the frame would interact with the deck: It can't be done. Rather a lot of material needs to be taken off the edge of the deck to allow the planks to flow naturally within their precut notches in the frame. This is true at both ends. I initially tried to do this with a sharp knife, but the geometry is really difficult and tight and I came very close to either nicking the planks in place or christening the vessel with blood. The deck wood is pretty hard and the knife doesn't want to carve in that semi-cross-grain direction, plus the assembly is somewhat fragile. Then I hit on using a pair of nippers instead, which worked far better. These take out nice chunks of wood at at time, are easy to align with the flow of the hull, and it doesn't matter that their cut is rough because this is a false deck that will be hidden by the planking and the real deck above it. So I just hacked away until I got close, then finished the edge with knife and file. I had to remove a LOT of material at bow and stern to get the planks to run cleanly. But it worked great. Another problem this deck is about to cause, is that it interferes with using frame-based clamps to hold the planks on. The next few strakes are going to be especially tricky. This deck has been a problem from the beginning and I'm wishing I'd just never installed it at all. The frames are held solid by the braces on top, and I could have filled in a supporting deck later on once the hull was complete. Anyway, here's what the deck edge looks like in the same view as above after it was carved back; can you see how the edge now allows the planks to lie in their notches? One final note on laying planks, for future builders. At both stem and stern, the planks transition from clinker (overlapped) to carvel (edge to edge) as they flow into the stem/stern keel piece. There's an awkward short zone where each plank dips beneath the next and is following elements of both styles. In the photo below, it's between the two frames; left of that it's full carvel, right of that it's full clinker: I've found the best way to do this is to sand/file a bevel onto the edge of the plank in just that area, like this: It lets the plank start sliding under its neighbor without looking any different from the outside. Maybe this is obvious to others, but it took some careful testing for me to figure out just how I wanted to do this for each plank. Thanks for reading along as I keep wrestling with this "relaxing" project.

I agree. The deck is crisp and clean around those nicely weathered details; no sign of the anchor or rope ever having been dragged around, abrading the deck and leaving marks/gunk behind. I think it creates too sharp a contrast between the details and the deck. I think if it were me I'd trying using pastels to add just some hints of localized use on the deck.

No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting. Look, matey, I know a dead rower when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable rower, the Byzantine Red, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

I think your approach captures the feel of the boiler nicely. At most I'd say the rivets are out of scale (too large), but this is minor. At times, I think over-sized details actually help enhance a model when they call attention to an interesting aspect. For example, the last time I made sails, I knew my bolt-rope stitching was out of scale but it looks nice from an artistic perspective and draws the eye to an interesting feature of the sails. So in this case, I think your boiler will look great when it's painted and in the shadows of the overhanging boiler deck. The consistent precision of the detail counts for a lot and the boiler looks nice.

To clarify, I'm planning on using the same stain to finish the model (Model Shipways walnut stain). I diluted it heavily for the initial staining as it's extremely thick, which made it far lighter. If you look closely at the hull shots you can see that some planks are different shades, which reflects staining batches at slightly different dilutions (I did it by eye and feel). I intend to dilute it less for later coats to (a) get a darker color and (b) keep it from penetrating as deep and not dissolving the glue. Depending on tests on scrap, I may mix in some black paint or just use pastels to darken the surface. Will show tests before doing anything. Thanks for all the supportive comments & likes!

And here's the model with two full strakes attached. It's nice outside, so I took it out of the frame and went outdoors for some better lighting. Almost got stung by a wasp that was nesting under this porch bench and didn't appreciate me using it. Maybe I'll paint this black and yellow and name it the Old Norse term for wasp. As I think I said before, I'm planning to repaint the finished hull for a darker, more tar-like tone so am not worrying about the uneven finish in the initial staining. You can see the really coarse wavy grain in the original wood, which is another reason I want to repaint the finished product. I also want to help blend the ends of the strakes into the keel, either by sanding them down or by using some kind of filler to extend them. I might even try to make false joints so it looks like the pre-formed stem/stern that many real ships used.

I've been pre-soaking the planks using an old rain gauge tube, which works great: After 20-30 minutes, I clamp them in place on the hull, let them dry, then attach with glue. Works great. One thing I really wanted to get right was keeping the strakes on both sides of the hull aligned at stem and stern so they'd look good when viewed from the ends. So I came up with this simple idea for ensuring consistency. Once the first side was glued down, I used a few binder clamps to "mark" that position equally on both sides. For example, here is the first strake glued on: One binder clip marks the very tip of the plank, the next two are parallel to its outer curve. Since the clamps are the same size on both sides, their edges mark the exact location where the opposite plank should go. So when I set the opposite plank up, I could nestle it right in among these clips and know it was right, without needing to mark lines. This also helped hold the plank in place. Here's another example, using the second strake. First, clip marking the installed strake's location: And opposite side showing exactly where the next one needs to go: Sharp eyes will notice that I've been having a devil of a time getting the strakes to fit inside each others' curves perfectly. I'm doing my best and expect to maybe use a tiny bit of filler. I think it'll overall vanish into the broader hull's pattern, and I'm learning how these interact as I go, so I think the upper (and more visible) ones will be better. I also think this one slid a little under the clamp, something I'm now being more careful about it.

My favorites are the single-color black-red and black-yellow.

Engines are a great detail, I'd just suggest studying some resources to get a good sense of what typical sternwheeler engines looked like. For example, here's a decent basic plan that you could work from (from this link): And here are a few views of the simplified engines I built for my Bertrand, which were intended to convey the idea without getting bogged down in details: Those may also give you a sense of one way to lay them out in the hull. Hope that's helpful.

Yep, real thing, hence the linguistic AND visual pun.

Nice job on my namesake!

You're well into what should be a nice model with a distinct style!

As a geologist married to a geologist, both of whom have strong interests in the intersections between natural landscapes and human activities, this sounds too good to be true. Could I use that with a standard digital camera to, say, scan a given rock face or landform and create a 3D model of it? I'm familiar with doing this by lidar, but that's really expensive. Probably shouldn't hijack this thread, so feel free to respond by PM.

Steven, great minds strike twice, as I did clamp the butt joint with a scrap piece behind the planks. As I noted above, I'm hoping others are right and that the clinker overlap will support these joints well enough from now on. Thanks for the ongoing support and advice!

That's beautiful.

Wow! What a fantastic way to explore and visualize a model. Is that something you have professional access to?

Binho, thanks for that. I have been poking around on the Skuldelev 2 part of that site, but hadn't stumbled on the reconstruction gallery yet, which has lots of good images. The strakes should clearly be composed of many shorter planks rather than a few long ones. I don't fault the kit for this, it makes sense to have it designed as it is for ease of construction. If someone wants to up the realism ante and go for shorter strakes, good for them. The kit's problem is solely in the instructions' total lack of clarity on how you are expected to build the model as scarphed butt joints are impossible under the kit's design. Anyway, last night I worked out how I wanted to approach this and put the first strake on. I wanted to simulate more shorter planks and initially just decided that I would cut the pre-spiled planks into shorter lengths and deal with the butt-joining as best I could. So I marked some locations and tried to use my chopper tool to ensure a clean and square cut: However, the planks are actually quite tough across the grain and the tool only scored the surface. This gave me a rather good idea, in which I realized that a scored joint would look about as good as a full joint without actually compromising the plank. So I did the same all the way along and used a narrow file to widen the "joint" scar slightly since I assumed that subsquent painting/staining would swell the fibres and close it up again. After all, I just want a hint of this pattern as the real joint would naturally be pretty tight. I then did some serious sanding to put the proper angle into the edge of this garboard plank (so it would sit properly against the keel). This angle got broader and broader as the strake curved toward the stem, until by the end I was mostly sanding the plank flat so it would sit flush against the keel rather than on-end to it. Here's a view partway through that sanding. The stain is actually really helpful for judging exactly how far the sanding has progressed. Having done that to my satisfaction for both halves of this strake, I installed one at a time using wood glue and a lot of clamps" It's hard to tell in that evening light but it came out nicely. Will try to take better photos later. I'm going to lay the same strake on both sides of the hull before moving up (rather than planking one whole side first) to help ensure (a) that the hull stays straight and (b) that the strakes line up at stem and stern across the keel as they'll be REALLY visible if they're offset. To handle this first butt joint, I used a scrap piece as a clamp glued behind the two planks. After this, further strakes may not need this given the support of the clinkered plank below; we'll see. Thanks to everyone for helping me talk through this and figure it out. I probably complained more than I should have but it was frustrating there for a bit and I'm kind of on edge overall. I appreciate the patience and the support. This ought to get more fun and interesting as the planking develops.