flying_dutchman2

The large scale is awesome. One can add lots of details to each of them.

As I mentioned before to you, It is time to start getting some cheap labor.

Offer free, cheap beer and cigars and they will come in droves. :-)

Marcus

Pretty much everything has already been said and I would like to add the following:

I am always looking for more 'accurate' Dutch kits from 1600 to 1800. One of the MSW members by the name 'Hans' started a company and he has the Batavia available and he is working on other ships as well. http://www.kolderstok-models.com/index.en.html

For the scratch builder there is much available in the form of books with plans. Seawatch published a few by Ab Hoving and Cor Emke who did all the CAD drawings.

Marcus

There used to be a Dutch firm that did some small ships, at 1:100. Resulting models about 25 centimets (that's 10 inch for you non-metrics:))

Rather basic kits, solid hull, partly precut, basic rigging, but great starter-kits, with quite a lot of detailing-options. Firm went backrupt, and no one else continued the range. Jan

Would this be Authentic Shipmodels Amsterdam? If so, I still have a catalog from them.

Marcus

LOVE doing this.

The best part.

Marc

Denis,

WOW, just took me an hour or two to go through this log and boy, is this an ambitious project. Production line?? I am looking forward to the rest of the log.

Marc

It is coming along nicely. On your log there have been several suggestions I can use as well.

Marcus

WOW, neat idea. Will do this on my next built. Thank you.

Marc

Ian,

NICE! Love the contrasting wood. What color are the hatches? Black? Dark Green.

Marcus

I forgot to step the mast, so I took a dowel of the same thickness as the mast to measure it out.

Figured out the angle of the mast by making 2 templates from scrap wood and comparing them to the drawing. I proceeded to shove a lot of wood putty in the mast hole until it was pretty full. Put the dowel in, angled it with the templates, let it dry and while turning pulled the dowel out. Let it completely dry and now you have a cylinder to put the real mast in and at the correct angle.

Due to the added weight of the wood putty in the bow I added similar weight of putty under the benches. It is almost a solid hull.

Marcus

Been working on and off on the boat. Five minutes here and there. I completed the hull, cabin and pilot house. It needs a little bit more spackle and then the final sanding. Paint the hull and the roof separate. Glaze the windows and then glue the roof on.

The mirror with the door glued on. Once the roof is on shine a flash light in the cabin to see the interior.

Pilot house.

I would use it and by subject would be preferred.  Figuring out and listing how you are going to organize the subjects will be a serious undertaking (maybe you already have this). 

Example.

Ship Building

Dutch

Fluit

Rigging

Marcus

Post 11 and 12 gave me some tips on how to make the cabin door on my Catboat more authentic.

Thanks

Marcus

The lines of the deck planking flows well and the roof is impressive as well. I am assuming you are still adding the cabin door? I worked a bit on mine mostly finishing the pilot house. Still too busy at work. But always have time for a quick look at your catboat.

Marcus

Awesome. Excellent choice of wood.

Marcus

LOL, Wow, like Mark said, 'amazing production line'. The details on the blocks is awesome. I think if I did this in wood it would pretty much be impossible.

Marcus

Kees,

Uitstekend werk (excellent work). The masts and all the details is just amazing. It looks like you just took the actual boat and shrunk every piece of it. Nothing left behind. I am taking notes of your techniques as I have a lot to learn about brass and your molds.

This built is a nice treat and very educational for me.

Bedankt.

Marcus

Hi Marcus, I'm still way behind you but finishing up the hull planking. I was just wondering what you thought of the idea of running the sheer plank 1/8 inch above the deck to provide a back for the deck planks? The plans simply show a strip laid against the top of the sheer plank - it is probably mahogany and likely why they do it that way but I'm thinking that extending my walnut plank up would be structurally better. Anyway, just musing and I miss your updates of late.

 

Edit: I've answered my own question. Rather than mess your log up Marcus I'll post in mine. Let me know if you want me to remove this post.

 

Best, Ian

All comments welcome and you are not messing up my log. I will give the above idea a thought.

Marcus

I love the planking. On my sisters boat the planking is basswood and will be painted and because it is a commission the criteria is to model it exactly like the real one. So most of it is painted. I prefer all woods showing as I have done in all my past models.

Anyway looking forward to the results of the catboat.

Marcus

Gerhard,

This is some amazing information. Thanks for the link. I am especially interested in the Dutch material.

arcus

Don,

 

I have a copy of the Abel Tasman book/CD/plans set that I am willing to part with. All in very good/excellent condition.

 

Paul

That is a good book and a set of plans as well. The CD has many plans and every picture in the book is in PDF form.

Marc

Very nice and like the way you use different types of wood. The wood in the pilot house looks awesome.

If my built was not for my sister I would have done this as well. Mahogany, some oak and a lighter wood, either tulip tree (Liriondendron tulipiferum) or Sweet Gum (Liquidamber styraciflua).  She wants it painted the way her own catboat looks like.  Also my work has started up and my modeling will slow down.  (Spring is the busiest time of year).

Marcus

Note.

I mentioned the above wood as it is native and cheaper than the wood most scratch builders use.  I plan to do the Statenjacht Utrecht completely in native woods.  Many have similar characteristics as the exotics people use.

It is a great investment. So many plans and so many possible builds. If you have an interest in 17th Century Dutch Ships. Purchase the book and the plans.

Marcus

Wayne,

Thanks for the link.

Nicolaes Witsen and Shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden Age.

I have this book and it is an excellent read. The plans of the Pinas are also available in the book 17th century Dutch merchant ships by Hoving.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8853-17th-century-dutch-merchant-ships/

Marc

2 - The pilot house does not have a 'U' shaped bench, but has two separate ones.

This is the way the kit has it

The following is what is re-created for the model to look like the actual boat.

Vellum template

Took out the back partition and glued in the pilot house.

The benches laid in.

Next the stern combing, finish all the vertical planking and sand the whole thing.

Marc

After looking at some new pictures from the boat, I noticed there are two major differences.

1 - The front of the cabin is not 'round' but 'squarish'.

Re-create like the real boat.