BANYAN
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Thanks JB. I am assuming that the commissioning pennant you describe as being three equally distributed horizontal stripes in the order red, white blue? I am also assuming a standard (elongated triangle) shape and not a 'burpee [V end]) ? i have looked through that site but find it very difficult to find this sort of information (unless looking for a typical flag such as an Ensign for a particular country in a particular period). That could just be me being thick headed though is there a particular section to look in for this? I am protraying her at anchor/alongside with spars fitted but sails stowed away - so the at anchor positions for Ensign and Jack and now the commissioning pennant at the main mast truk will be my most likel;y configuration. .... Then to find one of these (at appropriate scale) cheers Pat
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Thanks again B.E. - your logic and comments generally mirrors my thinking but you have alerted me to a new possibility . I have that book by Wilson, but I did not want to post my interpretation initially as I did not wish to influence any responses along any particular path. My initial thoughts were that perhaps the Common at the main (as you also interpret) and perhaps a commissioning pennant at the mizzen, but I do like the idea of the vanes (which had not occurred to me - many thanks). Are you aware of any size 'rules of thumb' for the pennants or vanes? I am also not aware (or more accurately yet to determine) when the use of commissioning pennant started. cheers, and many thanks again Pat [Edit] You are very correct in pointing out the lack of contemporary evidence of these for Endeavour. i have found one watercolour of Endeavour showing pennants at each mast head but it is a more modern interpretation. I'll take a closer look at this and see if I can contact the painter (unfortunately, I think it may have been Robin whom is no longer a member).
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Thanks B.E. Yep agree and have established she had the Red Ensign and Jack forward - but it is the other pennants I am trying to determine. Do you think she may have also flown the common pennant (tricolour) if assigned to other duties (scientific exploration)? Interesting that the Commissioning pennant was at main mast - if nothing else i will consider fitting this one. The period is too late for Streamers, so it is possibly 1 to 3 pennants. cheers Pat
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Hi folks, in trying to finish my HM Bark Endeavour c1770 (all the small things ) I am trying to determine what pennants would have typically been flown from the mastheads (in addition to the Jack forward and Ensign aft). I am assuming one would have been the commissioning pennant but I am unsure of its size and colours; this would probably have been flown from the mizzen? In a recent painting of Endeavour she is depicted with a pennant flying from each of the mastheads, with the mainmast pennant being fairly large (long). Any information re positioning, size, structure, colour etc would be most appreciated. cheers Pat
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You have a real talent for micro blacksmithing Glenn; the stoves looks superb! Nice to see an update but we can understand that you have been a little distracted with the shadow-build. cheers Pat -
Nice work on the rigging, especially the crows feet mate; it's a wonder you didn't turn to something a little stronger to drink cheers Pat
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Good to see you will be back soon Rusty, and a really nice workshop to hide in so all that hard work will be appreciated when you start back on 'Cheerful'. Nice restoration on that desk too mate; always nice to see the true properties of wood come back to life. cheers Pat
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Nice work on those hinges mate; they came up very well. Almost ready for her launch now cheers Pat
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Great to see this little lady again John. Pity the "helpful" staff weren't a little more careful. cheers Pat
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Looking great Dave; really nice work. Paulv makes some good points. If using the AOTS for rigging, check the blocks for the running rigging for the sails (if fitting them) on the pages just before the belaying plan (115?). these show some of the rigging in front of, and behind the sail and are not shown on the running rigging plan or on the mast drawings. I found I had missed a couple of blocks (eg halliards, down haulers etc) but have developed a "running" loop method of fitting these which, if careful has allowed me to retro-fit them. cheers Pat
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Looks good Greg; nice "correction" with that syringe solution. Should look seamless when painted. cheers Pat
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Know the feeling Alan; give it a good rest we can wait. cheers Pat
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Looking good Denis - keep the eyes focused ONLY on the items you need (nah, I can't do that either - always come back with something in addition ) Gibbs? NCIS fan then? (sorry if already answered elsewhere) cheers Pat
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You will have the characteristics for each genus and varying thicknesses all sorted by the end of this build Mark - looking good. cheers Pat
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Mark if you can live with it all is good. The day I stop learning is the day they bury me Even on repetitive cuts using a stopper etc I seem to have minor error creep in so I don't think it ever stops. cheers Pat
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Busy little bee then Sjors? and a 'honey' of a result (sorry couldn't help myself cheers Pat
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Thanks for looking in and commenting Greg and Don - rapidly approaching that point Greg But, I do need to add the rope coils and two further rigging lines as a minimum - and as I have ordered the Ensign, at least that also. The other two boats - I am debating these cheers Pat
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Thanks mate - just taken a long time getting there
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Thanks for all the likes and comments guys - much appreciated. c.a. - yep, that is a copy of the original chart of the East Coast of Australia as charted by Cook on his voyage of discovery. Denis - thanks for noticing the blocks etc John - welcome back - i was wondering where you had gone as hadn't seen a post for a while (was about to PM you ) Keith, Russ and Dave - thanks for looking in and the encouraging comments (see you at the next meeting Keith?) cheers Pat
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That's a really nice model Dave; great work (and well worth enjoying ) cheers Pat
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