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Michael: the OED cites 'rhoding' from naval architecture books, 1850,(which is very late) but, alas, gives no origin as to its meaning. -
This was Volume III, Wayne?
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Ridiculous prices! Sorry to disappoint you, but several copies are currently available for $250.00 or less on abebooks.com
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Daniel: back in Steel's day what you now refer to as 'camber' was called round up. Camber (back then) was used to describe a deck that curved downward longitudinally. Confusing, eh? 'To round up' is a verb, 'round up' is a descriptive noun.
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Sometimes headroom in the great cabin was improved by progressively raising the deck clamp aft, relative to the deck below. I suppose it might be possible that deck beams were of decreasing radius to achieve a similar result. However, that would be far more complex and time consuming. It seems unlikely, but one never knows….
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So, the gauntlet has been picked up! I'll look forward to seeing the result. Good move, sir.
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OK, Mark: assuming that the midships round up is correct at 8½" as measured on the draught, what is the round up at the stern if you use the same radius? Is it much different from the 5" that you've measured?
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Coming along nicely, Toni.
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Looks like a good start, A.P. Nice drafting!
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It's expensive, but front-silvered glass eliminates that 'gap' in a mirrored half model. A possible help for rigging of the earlier period might be to look at blocks recovered from Mary Rose. They are certainly different than 18th century or modern blocks. OK, they are not as early as your model, but might give some useful pointers anyway. Lovely work, Dick.
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The fallacy in your argument, Mark, is assuming that the round up is directly proportional to the with of the beam. A moment's thought will tell you this is not so. As the beam narrows, the 'fall off' of the round up is quite small. The wider the chord of the circle (i.e the width of the beam), the more rapid the increase in round up. In the upper half of the illustration, twice the beam width is not twice the round up! The corollary of this idea is shown in the lower half. Hopefully this clears up your dilemma.
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Not that I wish to influence you in any way, Remco, but a) a brick hearth would look really interesting and different and I'm sure you could make a superb one. (He walks away, whistling nonchalantly…)
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Mark: if you can find good linen line without slubs in it, either keep the source secret or just share it with me! Seriously, it's nearly impossible to find that quality any more.
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It looks as if the lower deck was lowered forward to accommodate the galley. The notation on the drawing suggests that draught is very close to the 'as built' for Swan and Kingfisher. Remember that these two ships were the leading ones of this class, so the earlier type of galley would make sense here. It's a nice variation on the Swan theme - or is that the swan-song?
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It's a nice compliment to your research and drafting that you are getting these requests, E&T. Do I also sniff a book in the making?
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Fire hearth is what occurred to me also, seeing the 'U' shaped layout. As this was an extremely heavy item with its brickwork, etc, it makes sense that it would be placed lower in the ship that the conventional Brodie style stove. I concur with Gary. Also, the steam funnel would be necessary to vent the area in addition to the hearth's flue for smoke.
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Good point, Dick.
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In a word, gruesome! My sympathy to you, Dan, for taking the project on.
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I use a very well sharpened 4H lead in a mechanical pencil. Thanks for your kind compliment. As for "Do I paint? Don't I paint?", I have one suggested solution. Build two models! The stern looks like it's shaping up well, Mark. I like your micro-adjustable support.
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druxey replied to DORIS's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Thanks for your response, Dick. Your lovely model has certainly generated good discussion and thought! As for medieval rigging, good luck with that. I'm currently trying to sort out rigging from as 'late' as 1600, and that's tough enough.
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Dear Dick, Thank you for responding to my query. I agree that there are dark beam-end like squares shown in the Trombetta illustration. My (perhaps uninformed) impression is that these are small blocks of wood, perhaps nailed on, wedged between the heavier wale strakes. This may produce more longitudinal strength without adding too much weight. The deck beam ends shown on the topsides do not all follow the sheer of the ship, whereas the 'blocks' do, all the way forward and aft. Your theory may well be correct, though. This is yet another place where I'd love to have a time machine!
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Beautifully executed metalwork!
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Your project is a fascinating one, Woodrat. Kudos to you for your reconstruction and interpretation. One point, though: while the deck above the waterline would reasonably have the deck beams protruding through the sides, I am puzzled by the beams below water coming through: surely it would be impossible to keep the joints watertight with the working of the ship. Or do you know something I'm missing here?
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