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About the model: As they say, "No time like the present" and as I'm stalled on Licorne by several non-hobby issues, I'm starting this one to take my mind off things. I have the plans scaled down from 1:48 to 1:64 I'll be drafting plans for building the ship as the ANCRE monograph doesn't have drawings pre-made for such things a frames, keel, etc. As the title states it will be a POB build as there's next to nothing in the plans of the below deck area. I'm making decisions at this point will working on lofting the bulkheads, keel, etc. on the types of woods. Most likely I'll Swiss pear for the external planking, some ebony or ebony stained wood for the wales and other bits and pieces, boxwood for the keel, stern post, and bowspit. Not sure yet about the decks. As for the bulkheads and some internal bits that won't be seen, I'm deciding whether to use Baltic Birch plywood or Yellow Ceder. It may come down to cost on this though. I'll be using the DeathStar for at least marking the wood to be cut for the bulkheads but not ruling out cutting as that will depend on the wood selection. I selected this ship as "next" as it was the more famous of the ships involved in the battle that brought the French into American Revolutionary War. Here's the history of Belle Poule and some pictures of the plans and the monograph. La Belle Poule is a 12-pounder class of frigate with 26 12-pdrs on the gun deck and 10 6-pdrs on the forecastle and sterncastle. History: La Belle Poule was built in the shipyard at Bordeaux starting in 1765 and launched in 1767. \ From 1772 to 1776, she was on hydrographic missions around India. She returned to Brest in 1776 . At the time, France wasn't engaged in War, but there were numerous incidents. April, 1777, Belle Poule was chased by a British ship of the line (unknown which one) and after evading her, returned to Brest. December, 1777, Belle Poule transported Silas Deane back to America along with the news of the French-American Alliance. On 7 January, 1778, she was stopped by two Britich ships of the line which demanded to inspect her and her Captian, Charles de Bernard de Marigny replied: "I am the Belle Poule, frigate of the King of France; I sail from sea and I sail to sea. Vessels of the King, my master, never allow inspections." 17 June, 1778. The famous battle between Belle Poule and Arethusa occurred which was actually celebrated by both countries. It was this battle that brought France into the American Revolutionary War. Note that Licorne was captured by the British. After this battle, she did numerous patrols. 14 July 1780. Belle Poule was overhauled and after a two hour battle with Noncuch (64), she surrendered. Feburary, 1781. Belle Poule was commissioned by the British. She participated in the Battle of Dogger Bank later that year. A footnote is that her Master during this period was William Bligh. November 1782. Belle Poule went to ordinary and also served as a British recieving ship. 1801. She was sold off. Plans, etc. I'm using the following references: Le Belle Poule Monograh by Boudriot and Berti The Art of Ship Modeling by Frolich and lastly, the only build log I could find that actually is showing the process unlike most that just show the finished ship: https://5500.forumactif.org/t3216-la-belle-poule-de-1765-au-1-48-par-guydal Anyway, a bit long winded but I'll be back when I have my cut sheets, plans, etc. ready and start making sawdust.

Pop that tank into here and you should get some advice and help if you want: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/73-non-shipcategorised-builds/

Looks great, Mike. I like the corner workspace with the windows on each side.

Amazing detail for ships that are that tiny. Or is that a 6" diameter coin????

I'm happy with what I have, but here's a list: Big enough for all your benches so sort out a floor plan ahead of time. Heat and A/C (depending on where you live). At least one window or more. Linolium or tile floor. Ventilation - even it's just an exhaust fan (or window fan) stuck in a window. A desk and chair (I have my computer in my hobby room). Lights... the more the better. In other words, not just a ceiling light. Those would be my minimums. Everything else, power tools, etc., buy them as you need them.

If I had to guess what that stick is, it's possible it's flag pole. Otherwise, maybe it's a tool for installing the life rings? Or installing the portholes? Just don't toss it out because Murphy will come laughing at you when you realize what it was and it's long gone.

Looks great, Semorebutts.... I changed the title for you. If you need to do it on another project, open the very first post and scroll to the bottom of it. Hit "edit" and you'll see that the title can be changed.

Interesting concept. I went the other way on my build of this kit to the 1854 version. I'll curious to see how this goes.

That's a great gift and a great recovery from two disasters.

In the process of this experiment I have to admit that I may be taking this a bit far as I wonder just how much one needs .001 accuracy to make model ship parts. Only you can answer that. One place I worked in engineering decades ago had a saying: "How tight a tolerance do you want? The standard here is measure with a laser laser interferometer, mark it with a piece of chalk, and cut it with an axe." The usually brought a laugh in any meeting with customers but the answer is as above... "how accurate do you want to be?". And maybe should add: "How accurate do you NEED to be?"

Thanks for the glue lesson. Very impressive save on the float.

I'm just curious Peter, have you been able to do any more on this ship? I'm a bit stumped on the bowspit.

Hi CDW, I'm a bit fuzzy here on the gap filling. Is the thin glue melting the thin strip? Or is the thin strip being pushed into the gap and then glued?

Sweet looking cannon, Mark. Very nicely done. Well worth the effort, me thinks.

Rich, Models with a keel or more modern ones where there isn't a visible keel? If you go here: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/18-modeling-tools-and-workshop-equipment/ and use the keyword "keel" there's quite a few hits for everything from homemade to manufactured. I posted some below. Amati make a "keel klamper". Hobbyzone has one. There's this topic: Here's a topic on a home made one:

I'm not sure the front one (bottom photo) are windows but maybe a painted decoration? The rear (upper photo) I can accept that those are windows since the helmsman was more than likely there as there's no helm on the weather deck. Windows there would make sense so he could see the sails, etc.

If you can, the ANCRE monograph is pretty good, but there are errors. But at this stage of your build it might be a waste of money.

Now there's a picture I can relate to... crewmembers sitting in the hatch with their feet in the breeze. Did that on CH-34's before we transitioned to CH-53's. Piston engine with a nice roar and a big hatch to enjoy the view.

Carl, Add your signature name to your profile then it will appear with every post. Same goes for your build log(s). As for gluing... many of (maybe most?) put a small amount on a piece of wax paper, maybe a small plastic cup, that type of thing and they use toothpicks (small end) to apply the glue. If the end is too big, it can be trimmed down. I use this method for the glues I use (PVA and CA). It also works for epoxy.

Hi Peter, By all means start a build log for your RC build in the scratch area (the place for RC builds), it's the best way to do it.

Excellent recovery Josh. When I saw the first photos, I thought for sure it was scrapbox time.

Lets try these... The hull pic is from the ANCRE website's PDF. The Rail is from the plans. It is a single rail on each side (outboard). There's one curved wooden stanchion and rest are iron. I'm not far enough into this yet to know if these rails were removable. I hope this helps.

Here's a belated Welcome to MSW, Pieter. Or maybe that should be "welcome back"?

Wefalck, It's this one from Model Expo. There's several builds going on and completed so I just grabbed the first one that popped up.

I'll see what I can do, Christos. I don't use a mobile phone with good imaging so I'll scan what I can.