mrangus Posted December 22, 2015 Share #361 Posted December 22, 2015 Nice detail work Jesse. Looks nice even under the unforgiving photo lens.... mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted December 22, 2015 Share #362 Posted December 22, 2015 She's looking better all the time Jesse! I hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Piet, JesseLee, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted December 22, 2015 Share #363 Posted December 22, 2015 Those are nice steps! Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year full of shipbuilding! CaptainSteve, mtaylor, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted December 22, 2015 Share #364 Posted December 22, 2015 Jesse Looking very sharp. Its a pleasure to watch your work Richard Elijah, GLakie, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 23, 2015 Share #365 Posted December 23, 2015 Really nice work JesseLee. Merry Christmas and have a prosperous and healthy 2016. Canute, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted December 23, 2015 Share #366 Posted December 23, 2015 Looking good Jessie. What is the wire net for? David B Canute, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share #367 Posted December 23, 2015 David, that's actually the bottom side of a piece of marble counter top. Got scrap pieces for free from a company who stacks them outside the plant & lets people get what they want. I think it is fiber glassed on the bottom. I had the piece upside down because my small pieces were rolling off the workbench & netting part was keeping my small parts from rolling off. mtaylor, Elijah, Piet and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 30, 2015 Share #368 Posted December 30, 2015 nice progress Jesse......side profile looks super GLakie, Piet, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 1, 2016 Share #369 Posted January 1, 2016 JesseLee, Progressing nicely, and looking good!!! Elijah, JesseLee, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #370 Posted January 16, 2016 Haven't posted in a while. There hasn't been a lot to picture & post but I've been working on it. I'm on the scrolled cheeks & head rails. I studied upon others build logs on these steps. I figured out a way to guide my scroll lines. I used a paper clip with the end filed to a point. Sorry for the bad lighting in some of these pictures. I hold it next to the wood & it slides along the edge marking as it goes. Then I cut it out with blades & mini files. The problem is the wood the kit provides for these pieces. They provide basswood which is horrible for trying to scroll like this. I read up on Dirks build & he had the same problem. I agree with him this requires much better wood for theses steps. I don't have anything like swiss pear which everyone seems to say works well for this. I did have some flexible beech gifted to me by someone but I didn't have enough different with sizes to make all the parts & I wanted to keep all these parts made out of the same wood so they would all match. I went on & made them with what was provided but the wood slinters, fuzzes, splits, etc. I don't like it at all. I tried to live with it & make it work at first but... well you'll see. I'll show what developed over several different postings. This first set of photos are making the scrolled cheeks. popeye the sailor, UpstateNY, Canute and 12 others 15 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #371 Posted January 16, 2016 The next pics are making the catheads. No problem with these. Made false sheaves by drilling holes & grooving out the wood between the holes. Made cleat by stepping the wood & a wood pin for the false cleat. Pegged them for extra strength. Cut a piece of cardboard to keep the same angle for the catheads shown on the plans. Theses had to be done first so I could get the right fit for the head rails. Again, sorry for the lighting quality in some of these photos. Gahm, GaryKap, popeye the sailor and 15 others 18 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted January 16, 2016 Share #372 Posted January 16, 2016 I think you did good Jesse, considering working with basswood. There's something I remember from another poster, (can't remember which one) , who "hardened" the basswood he was working on, with thin CA so it would hold an edge better. Don't know if that will work with the cheeks and head rails though, but it might be worth investigating. Canute, dgbot, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #373 Posted January 16, 2016 Made the upper head rails attached them, began work on the middle head rail. Got them all cut out, fit a9this is a difficult angle) & grooved when the same problem keeps coming up. Basswood sucks for trying to scroll at such a small width! I have been trying to live with it because I don't want to have to mill & cut out all this with nothing but scraps of wood that are way too thick when all I have is a dremel & a few small hand tools. Like Dirk I just cant accept this. The rails split & some of the photos show how bad the scrolling looks on this wood. I made the decision to tear it all off & fabricate the pieces myself out of different wood. That has been another time consuming situation to deal with. Soon I will post what I have been doing with that process. Jesse popeye the sailor, Gahm, Erik W and 15 others 18 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share #374 Posted January 16, 2016 I did experiment with that George, with mixed results. There can be staining issues with CA- it doesn't take stain well. It didn't always absorb deep enough in the wood. Sometimes the raised edge of the scrolling splintered off anyway. I did find out that these newer stainable wood glues do take stain well. There were spots where I scooped a ridge of glue to fill a flaked off ridge. When it dried it blended in ok but everything was looking too rough & patched up & I couldn't live with it. mtaylor, Canute, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 17, 2016 Share #375 Posted January 17, 2016 I've used a 50-50 mix of water and wood glue to harden basswood. About all I can say is that it works. It might take paint, but I doubt it will take stain. popeye the sailor, Elijah, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted January 17, 2016 Share #376 Posted January 17, 2016 I know what you mean JesseLee, about using soft wood requiring some detailed work. I tan into the same problem with balsa on that little lobster smack kit. I bought a product made by Minwax called "Wood Hardener." The can says that it penetrates dee into the wood, reinforces soft wood fibers and forms a solid base for filling. It did work pretty good for me but you have to give it time to cure. Another option is to get some poplar from Home Depot or Lowes. It's a lot harder then bass but still considered soft wood. With care it works pretty well for detail work and with this Minwax hardener it may just be what you need. Hope you'll find the right solution. I would opt for the poplar though. Cheers, Canute, cog, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted January 18, 2016 Share #377 Posted January 18, 2016 I have reworked the rails a number of times. I decided to use boxwood, which was a lot better than the supplied basswood. Even so, with my inexperience, i have remade, reinstalled and remove the rails a number of times. I think, after a number of weeks, that I may be ready to get it right. I will try your paper clip idea as I am not have a lot of success with the razor blade shaping approach. Richard CaptainSteve, Piet, Elijah and 4 others 7 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #378 Posted January 20, 2016 The family cat Izzy decided she wanted to sleep on my work bench last night so she cleared an area of it off to lay down. Along with sanding sticks & mini files she shoved all the wood scrolled molding I've been reworking & dozens of pre-made eyebolts & tiny things like that. Still cant find all the wooden parts. Will have to re-do again some of the head rail pieces again. The carpet has swallowed up many of the tiny metal pieces that will probably never be recovered. Weeks of fabrication lost! mtaylor, lionfish, Erik W and 8 others 11 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted January 20, 2016 Share #379 Posted January 20, 2016 Hi Jessy With the metal parts try a magnet. BTW it was me that gave you the flexible beech. Denis. Altduck, GLakie, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted January 20, 2016 Share #380 Posted January 20, 2016 Hate to hear that Jesse! One solution I've found to work pretty well for really small things lost in the carpet, is those lint remover rollers after lightly brushing the rug with a backwards sweep of a comb to bring them back up to the top. Might help retrieve most of the parts. Piet, JesseLee, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted January 20, 2016 Share #381 Posted January 20, 2016 I wish I had some advice to share, but I don't. Good luck finding those parts! JesseLee, Altduck, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted January 21, 2016 Share #382 Posted January 21, 2016 Ouch, Jesse! No intelligent fixes for that, short of locking the kitty out of your workshop. DenPink, Piet, JesseLee and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKap Posted January 21, 2016 Share #383 Posted January 21, 2016 Jesse - Ouch! Events like that are really painful. If I might offer a suggestion for retrieving those small lost parts - if you have a shop vac, clean it out and then carefully but thoroughly vacuum under and around your work area. Then sift through the "can" on the shop vac to look for the small parts. This has worked for me in the (recent) past - those gun port hinges on SYREN. If you don't have a shop vac, you could maybe borrow one from a friend, or buy one at WalMart. They aren't that expensive and are a great help for keeping the shipyard tidy. Good luck. <<Gary>> Piet, GLakie, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote current build: SYREN nearly done: Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham future builds: Emma C. Berry completed builds: Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted January 21, 2016 Share #384 Posted January 21, 2016 Jesse. There was a post here on MSW that I recall seeing some time ago which may hopefully help you ... The suggestion was to put some stocking material over the end of your vacuum cleaner. Then clean around the area. The stocking should stop any small pieces from disappearing into the nether regions of your vacuum bag. Piet, Moonbug, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted January 21, 2016 Share #385 Posted January 21, 2016 ...I'm glad your ship wasn't on the bench! GLakie, Piet, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 22, 2016 Share #386 Posted January 22, 2016 Hello Jesse... sorry to hear about the feline intrusion. I just wanted to let you you know I've used the suggestion Capt Steven makes: stocking / pantyhose over the end of a vacuum hose trick in the past and it works quite well. Good luck, - Bug Piet, GLakie, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted January 22, 2016 Share #387 Posted January 22, 2016 Jessie, tough break. It happens to me all the time but no cat... just clumsy. So, I bought some fine mesh window screen repair patches (4" squares) and clamped them to the end of my 1 1/4 inch vacuum hose. It is now permanently mounted so I can use the vacuum to collect saw dust at my work table. I actually have a car kit extension over the mesh. If I pick up something I need, i just take off the car kit and the the object is caught in the screen. Richard RichardG, CaptainSteve, CaptMorgan and 6 others 9 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKap Posted January 26, 2016 Share #388 Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Jesse - Just to let you know...I am working on the SYREN head rails and am having the same problem as you: they keep splitting and breaking . I have to keep getting up and walking away until my frustration settles down. So you are not alone in this. On balance though, many other ship model kits don't provide nearly as much material and direction for construction of the head rails as the MS SYREN. <<Gary>> Added at 4:50 pm Well...I just broke both middle rails AGAIN!!! I have just joined the club of posters who have been saying that at least some of the wood parts of these model kits should be of a decent quality so this does not occur. It does no good to have lovely laser cut finely engineered pieces that break in your fingers or with the slightest pressure from a tool. Edited January 26, 2016 by GaryKap JesseLee, Canute, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote current build: SYREN nearly done: Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham future builds: Emma C. Berry completed builds: Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 26, 2016 Share #389 Posted January 26, 2016 JesseLee, Had some catchin up to do, nice progress, sorry to hear about that glitch in your stock production. I do prefere horss over cats ... they tend to stay off tables and workbenches ... however, they are a pain in the house ... Like the details in your work. Looking better and better cheers Elijah, CaptainSteve, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share #390 Posted January 27, 2016 Thanks Dirk, Dennis, George, Elijah, Ken, Gary, Steve, Dave, Bug, Richard, Carl for the encouragement & tips. Dennis, thanks again for the wood. I have used some of the Lime & Beech for several different smaller things but nothing big yet. I'm still amazed at how flexible the Beech really is. Thanks guys for the tips on picking up the fine parts- I'll start doing that. Did find a lot of my small eyebolts I formed with a magnet. I have learned to string my eyebolts on a looped wire. Gary, I feel your pain. I have been remaking those pieces out of other wood but it is going ...s...l....o.....w......!!!! Hopefully there will be enough progress to get back to some log pics soon Jesse cog, Elijah, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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