HMS Tiger 1747 by Siggi52 - 1:48 - 60 gun ship from NMM plans

[Siggi52]

Hi Tom,

 

thats a good tip. I'm immediately back in the cellar to do it. Thank you.

[mtaylor]

Beautiful planking, Siggi.  The figurehead looks perfect.

[Hubac's Historian]

Beautiful work, Sigi!  The black alder gives nice tonal variations that would be evident in a full size ship - at least while on the stocks.  Eventually, these wood tones will pop even more next to the painted lower hull and upper bulwarks.  Beautiful lines, and lion and super clean work!

[paulsutcliffe]

Hi Siggi 

Just fantastic work as usual, I still want your leo cast off

Regards

Paul

 

[Siggi52]

Hello, and thank you all for your nice comments. 

Paul, I asked Leo, he wants to stay here  At the other hand, your Sirius is from 1797 and after 1796 figure heads where not allowed. 

[paulsutcliffe]

Ha thankyou

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

today only a small update. I finished the garboard strakes and the diminishing strakes. At the pictures you could see that I started to divide the rest of the hull for planking. But first I have to look how many steelers I have to build. That means researching. 

 

 

That was't easy, but at least the strakes gave up, and I won 

 

[paulsutcliffe]

Very nice Siggi, looking good!!

Regards

Paul

 

[druxey]

If you were to reduce the lowest band of planking nearest the bow and adjust the others, you may be able to plank without drop strakes. 

[Siggi52]

Thank you Paul and (and all others for your likes)

Druxey, I think I will build two drop strakes under the diminishing strakes near the bow. Goodwin (page 50) wrote that this was made in earlier times to prevent the planks from snying. Later in the 18th century that was't made anymore.

[archjofo]

Hello Siggi,

great progress.

 

 

Edited March 25, 2018 by archjofo

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

thank you Johann and all the others for there likes, but for me it's just one plank after the other 

 

Here some pictures of the stealers I build already. I modified my bending jig for a more moderate curve and bend the planks upright. I think I will build also a third stealer, to get better around the bow with the planks.

 

 

 

 

And there they are. Not so perfect as Mark's joints, but later you would't see it, because of the THICK layer of white paint that covers them. 

 

 

The advantage of building with balsa wood is that you could secure your planks with pins. So it's not all bad with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mtaylor]

Lovely work, Siggi.   It seems a shame to cover up all that work with paint.  

[Siggi52]

Thank you Mark, but I will show a ship, not the work to create it. I think it's ok. 

[Siggi52]

Hello,

and many thanks for your comments and likes.

 

A short update, just to show you that I'm still working. Now are only 8 strakes left. But it's a boring task, here are no port holes  

 

Edited April 7, 2018 by Siggi52

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

it is done, the hull is planked! 

It went not all as I aspected, but I'm more or less satisfied with the result. Some putty and sanding will do the rest and paint will cover it later 

 

 

 

 

And thank you all for your likes and comments. 

[paulsutcliffe]

Looks good from this angle

Regards Paul 

[Hubac's Historian]

I am just noticing, now, the clinch nailing (not sure if that's exactly what it's called) of the false keel; such an interesting detail, and this is the first time I have seen it included in a scale model.  Bravo!

Edited April 16, 2018 by Hubac'sHistorian

[druxey]

Hubac: those are actually staples that were used there, not clench nails.

[Siggi52]

Hello again,

 

and thank you for your likes and comments. 

Hubac, now and then you see it in this forum. Also my Dragon has these staples. 

 

After sanding the whole forenoon, I think the lower hull is ready now. I should have started with the first drop plank at the 1. diminishing strake. But later you are always smarter  

The next thing to do is, I think the ruder. Then I know how large the opening in the lower counter must really be.

 

But because here the spring came from one day to the other, I think my garden needs my attention first. The week before Easter we had two snowstorms with each 10 cm snow here. More north they had over 50 cm! One of my oaks lost a big branch then, and the experts will come Friday to cut it out. But also for me is enow left.

 

 

 

[Siggi52]

One question I forget,

did anyone know when the fish and horseshoe plates where introduced? Did I have to build them (1747) ? I did't find anything about the time it was introduced.

[albert]

Very nice work Siggi,

[davyboy]

Hi Siggi,

 

I have 2 photographs of a contemporary model of the 60 gun ship HMS Achilles of 1757. I took these in the Science Museum in London 11 years ago,there are no Fish or Horseshoe plates shown on this model. It postdates HMS Tiger by a decade so it may be ok to assume they were not fitted on your ship. However,it could be that they were just omitted on this HMS Achilles model,who knows. Yet,all other hull fittings are shown as fitted. Hope this is of help to you. Perhaps one of the very knowledgeable forum members hopefully may be able to answer your question.

 

Kind regards,

 

Dave 

Edited April 16, 2018 by davyboy

[druxey]

Blaise Ollivier (1737) does not mention either kind of plate in his extensive commentary on English building practice.

[Siggi52]

Good morning,

 

thank you Dave and Druxey for your efforts and all other for your likes.

I also have no picture from an admiralty model with these plates and Goodwin did't say anything about the time they where build. So I'm not wrong for building these plates not.

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

today I finished the rudder and the next days I will build the braces to connect it to the ship. 

 

 

 

 

[Mirabell61]

Spitze SiggI !!

 

excellent planking job, and the hull looks very very good....

 

Nils

[Jeronimo]

Hi Siggi,

good work.

Karl

[Siggi52]

Hello,

 

thank you Nils and Karl for your friendly words and all others for your likes.

 

Now the rudder is mostly ready. Next task is to plank the lower counter

 

 

 

 

 

[archjofo]

Hello Siggi,

a very nice hull and rudder.
A great performance.

The holes for the rudder fittings were apparently drilled on the model?