SMS Seydlitz by Canute, Cog, Stein Gildberg & RGL - FINISHED - Hobbyboss - 1/350 - PLASTIC

[cog]

Marvelous build, RGL, another star in your collection. Again improvement on your paint, and weathering techniques. Less invading, and even more realistic, if that was at all possible. Add some B&W photographs ... I would like to see what she looks like compared tp the real "thing"

[RGL]

[cog]

just missing the water, mate. Looking fabulous

[amateur]

Again: just the missing sailors that make the difference tothe real thing.

The pic showing her in your cupboard shows how small this large ship is, and how large your skills are. 

 

The only thing against Zeppelin is that it was never finished. All models showing her weathered and with airplanes show a rather fictional world: Graf Zeppelin never was in active service nor in any war. Ended life as a Russian target-ship around 1950.

 

Jan

Edited March 9, 2019 by amateur

[schooner]

Amazing job Greg!

I've always shied away from trying to weather my models because I've seen so many otherwise great builds ruined by a heavy hand but you have an excellent sense of what will work - your models are the most realistic I've seen. You ought to see if the film industry is hiring for special effects model making!

It was a pleasure to watch this take shape.

Tim

[ccoyle]

Congrats on another amazing model, Greg!

[vulcanbomber]

Fantastic model. The weathering details are superb, you'd think it was the actual ship!

[RGL]

Anyways, new photo of Seydlitz 

[Louie da fly]

Unbelievably brilliant, Greg. A magnificent build - the complexity and detail, and of course the weathering. What an amazing result.

 

I have to ask, though. What did you use for the nets? I'm going to need something similarly fine if I want to put boarding nettings on my Great Harry.

 

Steven

[RGL]

Comes with the Infini upgrade.Amazing coincidence it’s the same size as the Pontos Dreadnought upgrade. Now, there is some black netting available that I used on my HMB Endeavour (yes I can do wood as well) that I got from Cornwall Models years ago. 

[ESF]

I'm trying to find the words but everyone else has beat me to the superlatives.  If I was part of this group build I think I'd just shelve the kit and spend my days basking in the results of your bottomless well of talent.  Well done.  Thank you sharing.

 

Steve

[BETAQDAVE]

    Just came across this ship log and am impressed by the amount of detail that can be achieved at such a small scale!  I have a hard enough time struggling with 1:96 scale. 

    Two things struck me about those photos of this ship shown with its' battle damage that really stood out..  One, is that it was still afloat after all of those hits.  Did the shells explode after piercing the hull or just cut through?  I would have expected much more damage if they had exploded internally. 

    And two, how on earth did they manage to turn such a huge ship upside down in a dry dock in the first place to repair the bottom of the hull without causing more damage.  (Imagine if you were to take a large structure designed to be built upright like a building and could even manage to turn it over, the thing would just collapse onto itself.)

    I also seem to recall that the primary turrets were held down in their casements by gravity alone and would just drop out.  They must have removed major portions of the superstructure prior to inverting the ship.

    One more thing that seems to be lacking to me as far as those torpedo nets go, is the fact that they didn't extend to protect the bow and stern of the ship.  A torpedo strike in the bow would, if nothing else, dramatically decrease her speed.  Likewise, a strike in the stern could leave her without maneuverability and driving power.  These unprotected areas would seem to be more critical to the ships function than a strike in the middle where her armor belt was already the heaviest. 

    If their primary function was to protect the ship from torpedoes while at anchor rather than when underway, a full length floating torpedo net system set up alongside the anchored ship would seem to have been more effective.  (Like in Pearl Harbor for instance.)  Perhaps those were some of the reasons that the WWII era capital ships no longer employed torpedo nets in their design.  

[RGL]

OYes, the shells were usually explosive. The photo where the ship is upside down is when it was recovered from the sea floor after it was scuttled. They subsequently cut it up for scrap. 

 

The torpedo nets, I can’t really talk to that, apart from the fact they were abandoned mid war. 

Edited March 10, 2019 by RGL

[BANYAN]

Steven, try SpotLight or similar store for some fine 'tulle' - amazing how fine you can get.  Sorry to hijack Greg.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Piet]

Most magnificent accomplishment Greg - BRAVO!

 

Cheers,

[Louie da fly]

19 hours ago, RGL said:

Comes with the Infini upgrade

Thanks, Greg. Can you get the nets separately, or do you have to buy a whole lot of stuff that may never be needed (I don't expect I'll ever be making a Seydlitz)?

 

Pat, if I can't get the netting by itself I'll probably follow your advice. Fortunately my wife knows everything about fabric!

 

Steven.

[RGL]

No idea, I imagine they come as a job lot. You’d have to contact Pontos or Infini directly. They are the only companies I have seen use /produce them.  

Edited March 11, 2019 by RGL

[Louie da fly]

Thanks, Greg. It might be easier to just get tulle. There's a Spotlight and a Lincraft in Ballarat.

 

Steven

[RGL]

Black fly screen 

[Louie da fly]

Hmm, it's a thought. I'll have to look how closely it approximates to the scale I need.

 

Steven

[RGL]

Holes are about .3mm, but if you weather it it really shouldn’t matter. 

[RGL]

@cog @Canute where are you? 

[Jack12477]

2 minutes ago, RGL said:

@cog @Canute where are you? 

Davy Jones' locker ???? 

[Canute]

Other issues at this time. Sorry for a lack of time.

[cog]

Stil having back issues ... hence the stand still in all logs

[rpeteru]

Simply stunning mate gives me thought to finish my Grosser Kurfurst. Picked upa PE set including nets from one of the US Pe manufacturers about 3 years ago. Could not figure out how to do the blocks on the boom ends. Your build log has given me ideas,

[RGL]

Just remember the nets were dropped (unfurled) from the torpedo net shelves. Gravity did the work, The booms were then pulled out via ropes to the capstans. In reverse, the capstans pulled the booms back in, then the brails were used to pull or furl them up. You can see from the pulleys on the deck attached to the rope that runs along the deck would be used to do that via the Brails. So brail, rope, capstan. 

Edited April 14, 2019 by RGL

[src]

All righty then Carl, you showed us the carrot, where is the build?? Or did Gregs talk about Bears and Roos and Sharks give you the nighttime willies?

Sam

[cog]

3 hours ago, src said:

Or did Gregs talk about Bears and Roos and Sharks give you the nighttime willies?

HI Sam, yes, I'm still shakin' in me boots

[cog]

Especially for Sam (so he finally starts working on his own build) ... movement registered at the yard ...

 

 

Couldn't get the halves nice and flush, so I'll be filling and sanding a bit