RGL Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share #511 Posted December 23, 2021 My limited reading and the photos in b&w really do show very far panels on top, so a black overspray seems to work OK Jack12477, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 23, 2021 Share #512 Posted December 23, 2021 Very nicely done mate - not an easy subject to model due to its real life construction. OC. mtaylor, Jack12477, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 23, 2021 Share #513 Posted December 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, RGL said: My limited reading and the photos in b&w really do show very far panels on top, so a black overspray seems to work OK I think your interpretation is right on. The other aspect of painting an airship is that they are HUGE and even a thin coating of paint amounts to quite a lot of weight by the time you cover it all. Thousands of pounds in fact. VERY important in a vessel that is intended to fly and just like the water in normal ships the medium of support (Hydrogen instead of water) has a pretty fixed weight it can sustain. RGL, popeye the sailor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share #514 Posted December 23, 2021 Painting pretty much done, weathering next. Again, I’m making this up as I go along, how the hell does one weather a blimp! Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Ryland Craze and 5 others 6 2 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share #515 Posted December 23, 2021 I giver her a dark yellow wash and it works! Blends it very nicely and makes it look like dirty canvas. What a fluke! GrandpaPhil, yvesvidal, Canute and 12 others 15 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted December 24, 2021 Share #516 Posted December 24, 2021 Greg, If someone can weather anything, it has to be you !!! Superb blimp. Yves Jack12477, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted December 24, 2021 Share #517 Posted December 24, 2021 Lou, An airship, zeppelin or blimp is supported by air, not hydrogen. The hydrogen, or helium filling in US airships, is there to pressurize spheres within the envelope. These displace air and provide lifting force. If someone could magically invent an ultralight envelope structure that would not collapse, under vacuum the hydrogen filling would be unnecessary. An airship works like a submarine. Air exerts a buoyant force on the envelope. This force is equal to the density of the air x the volume of the envelope. If the weight of the airship, including the gas filling is less than the buoyant force from the air, the airship rises. If it is more, the airship sinks. Once it was flying, the crew’s job was to maintain neutral buoyancy: airship weight = buoyant force. Both of these factors changed over duration of the flight. The crew responded by jettisoning ballast or venting gas. Venting gas reduced the diameter of the gas filled spheres within the envelope and this decreased buoyancy. All in all a fascinating technical innovation that ultimately proved to be a dead end. Roger . popeye the sailor, Canute, yvesvidal and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #518 Posted December 24, 2021 Greg. I suspect that we all bow to you as the "Master of Weathering". Great work. Old Collingwood, RGL, popeye the sailor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #519 Posted December 24, 2021 Thanks, decals and tail fin rigging done GrandpaPhil, Ian_Grant, yvesvidal and 8 others 5 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 24, 2021 Share #520 Posted December 24, 2021 Seriously impressive mate. OC. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Canute and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #521 Posted December 24, 2021 So, I’ll take some decent photos tomorrow but this came out OK Canute, popeye the sailor, GrandpaPhil and 8 others 9 2 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #522 Posted December 24, 2021 Done king derelict, Landlubber Mike, Jack12477 and 16 others 9 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #523 Posted December 24, 2021 holy cow Greg.........the airship came out awesome! how you painted it was really cool! the seydlitz looks awesome as well......superb job with torpedo nets Canute, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 4 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 24, 2021 Share #524 Posted December 24, 2021 This made me aware of the enormous size of those airships. Never saw one mounted next to something as large as a battleship. Both ships came out great! Jan mtaylor, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veszett Roka Posted December 24, 2021 Share #525 Posted December 24, 2021 Congratulations. I can stare them for a year or more. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, RGL and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 24, 2021 Share #526 Posted December 24, 2021 Superb work Greg - really looks splendid. Happy christmas to you mate. OC. lmagna, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Share #527 Posted December 24, 2021 That is great way to show the real size of the zeppelin. It is fantastic display and both models are exceptionally well done Alan lmagna, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted December 24, 2021 Share #528 Posted December 24, 2021 Wonderful! popeye the sailor, lmagna, RGL and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted December 24, 2021 Share #529 Posted December 24, 2021 Nice work, wow! RGL, lmagna, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #530 Posted December 24, 2021 Not much I can say that the others have not said. Just a long silent "WOW, you are a master". popeye the sailor, Jack12477, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted December 24, 2021 Share #531 Posted December 24, 2021 Excellent paint job; love it! Nice addition to your collection Greg, adds perspective to the size of these air ships. Have a safe and happy festive season Pat mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Jack12477 and 3 others 5 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 26, 2021 Share #532 Posted December 26, 2021 Great to see the completion of your vision Greg. You now probably have one of the most unique dioramas created by anyone. Congratulations popeye the sailor, RGL, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share #533 Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) So I entered my first ever Model competition this weekend with Seydlitz & Zeppelin. Did OK. Best in show and best ship and best ‘what if’ for Graf Zeppelin Edited February 13, 2022 by RGL Captain Slog, king derelict, pjofc4 and 11 others 12 2 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 13, 2022 Share #534 Posted February 13, 2022 Very well deserved Old Collingwood, mtaylor, RGL and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted February 13, 2022 Share #535 Posted February 13, 2022 Did OK? I'd say so. Very nice, Greg. 👍 Old Collingwood, lmagna, Jack12477 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted February 13, 2022 Share #536 Posted February 13, 2022 Congratulations mate - very well deserved. OC. lmagna, RGL, Jack12477 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2022 Share #537 Posted February 13, 2022 Congratulations, Greg. The awards are very well deserved. Canute, Old Collingwood and RGL 2 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 13, 2022 Share #538 Posted February 13, 2022 Congrats Greg; well deserved and great to see some recognition of your skills. cheers Pat mtaylor, lmagna, Canute and 3 others 5 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted February 14, 2022 Share #539 Posted February 14, 2022 Congratulations! Well done! RGL, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 3 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted February 14, 2022 Share #540 Posted February 14, 2022 Congratulations Greg I have no idea what the competition was like but having seen the pictures of these models I tend to agree with the judges. Best in show, well deserved. Does this mean that the models will get promoted in the cabinet to a higher shelf? Canute, RGL, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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