GeorgeKapas Posted March 19, 2019 Author #31 Posted March 19, 2019 Stays are going in, these first steps in rigging are always difficult druxey, docidle, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
Louie da fly Posted March 19, 2019 #32 Posted March 19, 2019 This is looking so good, George. It's hard to believe you're getting such a quality of detail at such a small scale! Steven lmagna, GeorgeKapas and thibaultron 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
cog Posted March 20, 2019 #33 Posted March 20, 2019 The further I came in your log, the less obvious it became to be of plastic origin ... it is hardly possible to distinguish it from wood. Very well done, and as Steven mentioned, especially at this scale thibaultron, lmagna, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 20, 2019 Author #34 Posted March 20, 2019 Thank you all, you are too kind. To be honest this was quite a tiresome built because of the scale, but some lessons were learned for the bigger ones. Thankfully today the deadeyes for the shrouds will be ready. thibaultron, mtaylor and lmagna 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GrandpaPhil Posted March 20, 2019 #35 Posted March 20, 2019 Awesome work! GeorgeKapas, lmagna and thibaultron 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Reg Posted March 21, 2019 #36 Posted March 21, 2019 Just beautiful! Greg lmagna, GeorgeKapas and thibaultron 3 Quote
the learner Posted March 23, 2019 #37 Posted March 23, 2019 WELL DONE! George, from the pictures one would not know its a plastic kit and great detailing beyond just gluing the parts together. thibaultron and GeorgeKapas 2 Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
J11 Posted March 24, 2019 #38 Posted March 24, 2019 Fantastic job! GeorgeKapas and thibaultron 2 Quote Current build project: CSS Alabama 1/96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20148-css-alabama-by-jonathan11-revell-196-scale-kit-bash-90-historical-accuracy/ Finished build projects 2018: H.L Hunley 1/24 CSS Arkansas 1/96
GeorgeKapas Posted March 24, 2019 Author #39 Posted March 24, 2019 Thank you all! Updates coming in a few hours. I did a lot of the rigging, she does look magnificent, even though I was not very optimistic at the start of this built. Also had a small accident a few days ago. Thankfully I keep the ship wrapped in a soft cloth when I rigg it, so there was little effect. J11, thibaultron, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted March 24, 2019 Author #40 Posted March 24, 2019 Sorry for the delay! I promised some photos, so here are a few quick ones, I'll return tomorow with better ones! I'm still adding pulleys... cog, J11, thibaultron and 7 others 10 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
J11 Posted March 24, 2019 #41 Posted March 24, 2019 Your color scheme is perfect along with the wooden deck. Wow! As other members have stated; "You would never know it was a plastic kit". cog, druxey, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Current build project: CSS Alabama 1/96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20148-css-alabama-by-jonathan11-revell-196-scale-kit-bash-90-historical-accuracy/ Finished build projects 2018: H.L Hunley 1/24 CSS Arkansas 1/96
GeorgeKapas Posted March 25, 2019 Author #42 Posted March 25, 2019 I finally managed to correct some mistakes, add more pulleys, and get a proper packground to take pictures. The last few days were hectic indeed. Added extensions/flagpoles to the masts to correct the issue. More pulleys, most of the bowsprit rigging is also finished. Fasting the stays was an absolute nightmare. The ship is tiny, the masts are of soft plastic and the shroud deadeyes are very fragile to take much tension. A test of patience, it wont be perfect, certainly in that scale and with that material, but I am finally satisfied with the result.. Much of the tensions especially with the running rigging will be solved later as they come on the masts. druxey, BETAQDAVE, Jim Rogers and 7 others 10 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted March 25, 2019 Author #43 Posted March 25, 2019 The bowsprit is mostly ready. I had to make decisions of what to keep and what to omit, especially after the rather extravagant choice of layout. Stays were added, including the martingale stays etc. Bobstays and bowsprit shrouds Spritsail Braces 2 of the 4 Jibboom guys were added Spritsail Cluelines simplified cluelines for the jibbs, I generally use Lennarth Peterssen's Rigging - Period Ship Models, but at this scale, I am at my limit.. thibaultron, GrandpaPhil, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted March 25, 2019 Author #44 Posted March 25, 2019 The added flagpole extension of the masts was a much needed correction, here is just an idea effect of the flags, which I will add a lot, the Royal Standart on the mainmast: GrandpaPhil, thibaultron, Old Collingwood and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
cog Posted March 25, 2019 #45 Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Love the way the rigging is progressing. Not so certain about the flag. Looks a bit ... crumpled. Will you show her with or without sails? If with sails, furled or unfurled? (I know, it's easy to comment from the sideline) Edited March 25, 2019 by cog thibaultron, Old Collingwood, GeorgeKapas and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 25, 2019 Author #46 Posted March 25, 2019 Dont worry, the flag is just for suggestion, I'll print flags for her anew. I usually dont add sails at all, and have the yards lowered. Perhaps furled up sails can be added, but these are rarely seen in museums and navy board models, so.. thibaultron, lmagna, J11 and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
cog Posted March 26, 2019 #47 Posted March 26, 2019 Then the question arises, will she be displayed in a museum or at a navy board ... I presume neither, so you can do what you want lmagna, thibaultron, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 26, 2019 Author #48 Posted March 26, 2019 You are right, of course. I did this with a model I made some years ago, the also tiny Academy's Bedford Whaler. In the meantime I'm trying to fold up A4 paper pieces to suggest becalmed flags, I'll post some for suggestions. lmagna, Old Collingwood and thibaultron 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
cog Posted March 26, 2019 #49 Posted March 26, 2019 Iwould sooner try my hand on tissue,or rice paper as those are thinner. Tissue ... you can even peel layers ... just ideas at the top of me hat lmagna and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 30, 2019 Author #50 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) Sorry for the lack of updates, these will come this weekened when a lot of progress will be documented. I had flags printed, a 17th century Red Ensign for the taffrail a Royal Standard for the mizzenmast a 17th century Union jack for the mainmast and a small jack for the bowsprit, although it is debatable if I'll add the latter. There was an issue with the rigging thread, I was running low on Mantua thread which you cant find any more here. I have Nylon, Polyester, Silk, and various qualities of cotton. At this tiny scale, any blemish and fluff will show, and even with waxing, Polyster looked terrible ( all 0.25mm btw). Nylon has no fluff by default by its threading is very crude. Today I finally found some Egyptian Cotton thread that behaved properly and with waxing it looks just like the Mantua thread. Great news, as now I have a good supply near me. Edited March 30, 2019 by GeorgeKapas cog, thibaultron, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #51 Posted April 6, 2019 Progress! Finally, what a troublesome week! Sheets and cluelines, most of the running rigging is complete, including some of the shrouds: druxey, thibaultron, J11 and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #52 Posted April 6, 2019 Details on the rigging, mostly of the stern section: Braces, cluelines, sheet lines, lifts etc Adding the ropes at the deck and the pins was absolutely troublesome, I did my best J11, thibaultron, docidle and 7 others 10 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #53 Posted April 6, 2019 Overview: lmagna, cog, thibaultron and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
CDW Posted April 6, 2019 #54 Posted April 6, 2019 A beautiful model. It's stunning, really. Can't say that I have ever seen one nicer model at this scale using plastic as the primary component/s medium. lmagna, J11, GeorgeKapas and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
ccoyle Posted April 6, 2019 #55 Posted April 6, 2019 Agree! That looks fabulous, especially considering the age and scale of the kit. Very nice work! CDW, lmagna, GeorgeKapas and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #56 Posted April 6, 2019 Thank you! Yes the material is the worst, soft Airfix plastic, the masts bend with the slightest tension, every time I add a piece of thread I need to readjust the stays or some other standing rigging... I have somewhat given up on most of these problems, at least for now, going to tension them near the end of the rigging phase thibaultron, lmagna and CDW 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #57 Posted April 6, 2019 BTW should I make the horizontal lines of the shrouds with melted plastic spruce or thin thread? I'm still unsure thibaultron and CDW 2 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 6, 2019 Author #58 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) Did some tensioning on the standing rigging. I use the cloth as a movable but soft base for rigging. Also the ship in my hand for proper scale! Edited April 6, 2019 by GeorgeKapas druxey, catopower, yvesvidal and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
CDW Posted April 6, 2019 #59 Posted April 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, GeorgeKapas said: BTW should I make the horizontal lines of the shrouds with melted plastic spruce or thin thread? I'm still unsure Maybe you could try some Lycra thread. It stretches without putting a lot of pressure on the plastic parts and easily retains it's tension over time. Plastic ship and aircraft modelers use it all the time. lmagna and thibaultron 2 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
cog Posted April 6, 2019 #60 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) I'm afaraid the strech line like EZ line will pose the same problems you have with the other rigging. I would personally go for the streched sprue, eventhough it is more work, you won't have the tensioning prblems. On my plastic builds I use EZ-line, but my masts are from brass, so I don't need to take the flexibility from those into account Edited April 6, 2019 by cog lmagna and thibaultron 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
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