maaaslo Posted June 13, 2019 Share #91 Posted June 13, 2019 You also might want to abolish using Amex. Where i live, you wont find single retailer accepting amex since they take too big a bite from the payment. Look into it... chris watton and Canute 2 Pavol stands for Paul, Pablo, Paolo etc. Please do not try to pronounce it, just call me Pav... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted June 13, 2019 Share #92 Posted June 13, 2019 Couldn't resist it Chris, order placed today, look forward to making Alert come to life🙂 Every success with your new venture. Regards, B.E. Canute, chris watton, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share #93 Posted June 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, Blue Ensign said: Couldn't resist it Chris, order placed today, look forward to making Alert come to life🙂 Every success with your new venture. Regards, B.E. Thank you very much! Had a manic couple of days, but a good manic. For the next kit, I think we will have 20 made up kits ready to go before adding it for sale. Lesson learned there! ErnieL, Murphy, Dubz and 3 others 6 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 13, 2019 Share #94 Posted June 13, 2019 Hi Chris my order just went in, i hope you still have some available. Gotta love the location for postal rates Customer matched zone "FAR FLUNG" I hope it is not too far flung, Hooroo Chris Canute, mtaylor and chris watton 3 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share #95 Posted June 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cabbie said: Hi Chris my order just went in, i hope you still have some available. Gotta love the location for postal rates Customer matched zone "FAR FLUNG" I hope it is not too far flung, Hooroo Chris Thank you! I am trying so hard to get the UPS rates down right now, but cripes UPS are hard to deal with. I promise that if I can get the price down for your shipping, I will reimburse you the difference, and this applies to all orders (although US and UK are nigh on perfect - but Canada and Australia prices are mad!) Canute, Cabbie, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catopower Posted June 13, 2019 Share #96 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Hello Chris, Congratulations on getting the first kit done and on sale! The Alert looks like a really beautiful kit. I was reporting on its release in our club newsletter when I realized that there is no description of the kit contents on your product site. That would be very useful for those who aren't on MSW, or just for those who don't want to dig around to find the info. You know, something like, kit contains X laser cut sheets of high quality birch plywood, boxwood strips for planking the hull, large sheet of P.E. parts... all that marketing stuff. It's helpful to know, though most of us on MSW already know you and your work and I'm pretty sure would buy your products sight unseen – myself included! Edited June 13, 2019 by catopower CaptainSteve, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Clare Hess He's a -> "HE" Current Builds HMS Wolf, 1754 - Shipyard Laser Cut Kit Kitamaebune - Japanese Coastal Trade Ship, 18th/19th Centuries - Woody Joe Kit Atakebune - Japanese Sengoku Period Warship - Woody Joe Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted June 13, 2019 Share #97 Posted June 13, 2019 I should have a review and kit contents posted next week for you all. coxswain, ErnieL, realworkingsailor and 7 others 10 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #98 Posted June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, catopower said: Hello Chris, Congratulations on getting the first kit done and on sale! The Alert looks like a really beautiful kit. I was reporting on its release in our club newsletter when I realized that there is no description of the kit contents on your product site. That would be very useful for those who aren't on MSW, or just for those who don't want to dig around to find the info. You know, something like, kit contains X laser cut sheets of high quality birch plywood, boxwood strips for planking the hull, large sheet of P.E. parts... all that marketing stuff. It's helpful to know, though most of us on MSW already know you and your work and I'm pretty sure would buy your products sight unseen – myself included! Sorry, you are right. The kit has two sheets for keel and bulkheads in MDF and all other wooden laser cut parts are limewood (1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm and 3mm). The stand is in laser cut clear acetate. Seven laser cut sheets of different materials in all. There are three photo etched brass sheets, 0.2, 0.4 and 0.6mm thicknesses (which includes a nameplate for the stand). First planking is 1.5x5 limewood, second planking and other hull strips is pear wood and deck planking is boxwood. Six different rigging threads, resin cast main and small winch drum, cast metal cannon and anchors, and a full colour 56 page plan and instruction manual with parts list in A3 format. Jörgen, Cabbie, catopower and 5 others 8 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Johnson Posted June 14, 2019 Share #99 Posted June 14, 2019 Chris, For some reason, I was under the impression the cannons were resin, not that it matters. Kurt mtaylor and Canute 2 Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 14, 2019 Share #100 Posted June 14, 2019 11 hours ago, SpyGlass said: Sorry far flung is of course relative But I needed a name in an hurry for a group covering Japan to NZ. China to Argentina etc No need to be sorry, very apt from Chris's part of the world Canute and mtaylor 2 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #101 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kurt Johnson said: Chris, For some reason, I was under the impression the cannons were resin, not that it matters. Kurt They are for Speedy, I never said the guns for Alert were resin. I did change the winches on Alert from metal to resin (at quite an extra cost, as I had already had all of the castings made), as I wasn't happy with both the quality and amount of shrinkage. Cannon were OK. Resin castings cost a lot, lot more than white metal, so had to weigh up the costs for Alert as I wanted to keep it well under £200. There are 24 cannon barrels altogether for Alert, more than usual for such a small vessel. The only way I could add the resin cannon to replace castings is to change the wood strip from box wood and pear to Tanganyika (box wood is eye wateringly expensive). However, for future kits, I want to keep metal castings to an absolute minimum, and have worked the resin cannon cost into Speedy (this is what you probably read), as Speedy doesn't have a more expensive to make octagonal winch drum to put in the kit box. So, Speedy will have 20 x half pounder and 14 x 4 pounder cannon and Cochrane figure in resin. Essentially, I didn't want to price myself out of the market with my first kit, I was pushing it a bit using the woods. ETA - To show you what I mean when I said I wasn't prepared to put the metal castings in the kit, and decided to have them resin cast, I have attached some pics of the difference, both from the exact same 3-d file. I want to use white/Britannia metal as little as I possibly can in future.. Edited June 14, 2019 by chris watton Murphy, catopower, Jorge Diaz O and 11 others 14 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #102 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Here are some pics of contents, the second pic shows all of the laser and PE sheets for Alert. The laser has made some black marks on the acetate sheet, but this is just confined to the protective film, the actual parts are perfect. Edited June 14, 2019 by chris watton usedtosail, BenD, Jörgen and 19 others 22 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Johnson Posted June 14, 2019 Share #103 Posted June 14, 2019 Chris, UPS states that they expect to deliver the kit Monday the 17th by end of day, they only picked it up this morning the 14th! If that is true it would be amazing. Amazing! I thought it would at least e stuck in customs for a day or three. Kurt mtaylor, Ryland Craze and Canute 3 Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #104 Posted June 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Kurt Johnson said: Chris, UPS states that they expect to deliver the kit Monday the 17th by end of day, they only picked it up this morning the 14th! If that is true it would be amazing. Amazing! I thought it would at least e stuck in customs for a day or three. Kurt That is good if it's delivered that quick! The 1x4mm was swapped out with the 1x5 strip. And Chris in Australia, the UPS postage was eye watering (was actually £56), I hope to get these shipping prices for some countries down soon, now we're up and running.. ErnieL, Canute, Cabbie and 1 other 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Johnson Posted June 14, 2019 Share #105 Posted June 14, 2019 Chris, Thanks about the wood. I’ll be more than happy if it comes Monday, I was figuring about two weeks in transit. With the tracking apps these days it shows some routes that seem a bit bizarre where it at times it is closer to you and then goes further away before it comes back towards you again. UPS has it really mapped out though. The delivery drivers have all the turns set up to avoid left turns as much as possible (against the oncoming traffic in the US) to save time. Kurt Canute and mtaylor 2 Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted June 14, 2019 Share #106 Posted June 14, 2019 I think they are shipping tomorrow for UK, so I would think Tues/Wed latest. ErnieL, mtaylor and Canute 3 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #107 Posted June 14, 2019 I am sure UK customers will get theirs by Tuesday, UPS wasn't as straight forward as I first hoped, but all sorted now. mtaylor and Canute 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 14, 2019 Share #108 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, chris watton said: That is good if it's delivered that quick! The 1x4mm was swapped out with the 1x5 strip. And Chris in Australia, the UPS postage was eye watering (was actually £56), I hope to get these shipping prices for some countries down soon, now we're up and running.. Thanks Chris happy to be the guinea pig on this. We will see how quick and what condition its in when it turns up before judging them on the 56 pound. Have there been tracking numbers issued It would be nice to know who will deliver over here, one particular mob here are schockers about doing a prompt delivery, if not loosing it for weeks. And that is only getting something from Melbourne 100k away. Thanks Chris Edited June 14, 2019 by Cabbie PeteB, mtaylor and Canute 3 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share #109 Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cabbie said: Thanks Chris happy to be the guinea pig on this. We will see how quick and what condition its in when it turns up before judging them on the 56 pound. Have there been tracking numbers issued/ It would be nice to know here who will deliver over here, one particular mob here are schockers about doing a prompt delivery, if not loosing it for weeks. And that is only getting something from Melbourne 100k away. Thanks Chris Every parcel should have it's own tracking number, and they should keep you updated via email, as far as I am aware. I have no idea who delivers it to you, I naturally assumed it is UPS all the way. Canute and mtaylor 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 14, 2019 Share #110 Posted June 14, 2019 So ups should send an email with a tracking number? I believe that it will be Aust post that delivers to me (very good) Last time I had a international delivery I don't think I heard anything until it landed in Aus mtaylor and Canute 2 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altduck Posted June 14, 2019 Share #111 Posted June 14, 2019 Thank you for explaining and illustrating the differences between the resin and white metal. Your photo of the 2 winch drums side by side is a vivid statement. Kind of like looking at a prune, next to the plum it came from. Canute, mtaylor and chris watton 3 Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 14, 2019 Share #112 Posted June 14, 2019 UPS does "partner" with various snail mail (regular postal service) for so-called "last mile" delivery. In other words, if you don't see UPS truck in your neighborhood regularly then chances are, UPS will hand it over the local postal people. Canute, chris watton and Cabbie 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted June 14, 2019 Share #113 Posted June 14, 2019 Mine says the 17th too but I'm skeptical, so we'll see. **Update: changed to the 20th. That seems more realistic. mtaylor and Canute 2 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanlan99 Posted June 14, 2019 Share #114 Posted June 14, 2019 I am in the United States - North Carolina. Where are you folks seeing a delivery date? I got a notice from Vanguard Models (Chris) that my order is complete. But there was no tracking data or delivery date. Just curious. Jim Canute and mtaylor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted June 15, 2019 Share #115 Posted June 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, jimvanlan99 said: I am in the United States - North Carolina. Where are you folks seeing a delivery date? I got a notice from Vanguard Models (Chris) that my order is complete. But there was no tracking data or delivery date. Just curious. Jim I use UPS my choice. chris watton and mtaylor 2 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted June 15, 2019 Share #116 Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Cabbie said: one particular mob here are schockers about doing a prompt delivery, if not loosing it for weeks. Not Startrack by any chance? Around our way they throw the parcels into corners that you can't easily access! Rick Cabbie, chris watton, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 15, 2019 Share #117 Posted June 15, 2019 Good Morning Chris Can I ask a bit off topic question? Ok thanks I am currently building the Mermaid, with what looks like a bowsprit installed similar to what yours looks like on the Alert. Can you tell me how yours is done? I have been looking around at other models and can't get a clear look. Thanks Chris Canute, mtaylor and chris watton 3 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share #118 Posted June 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Cabbie said: Good Morning Chris Can I ask a bit off topic question? Ok thanks I am currently building the Mermaid, with what looks like a bowsprit installed similar to what yours looks like on the Alert. Can you tell me how yours is done? I have been looking around at other models and can't get a clear look. Thanks Chris The end slots into a square hole through the bitts, and is then secured further by an 'Iron Hoop' that is bolted to (or through) the stem post mtaylor, Canute and Cabbie 3 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted June 15, 2019 Share #119 Posted June 15, 2019 Thanks Chris Also should have asked, How low does it is into the gunwale/bulwarks? Thanks, now I will leave you alone. mtaylor and Canute 2 HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share #120 Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Cabbie said: Thanks Chris Also should have asked, How low does it is into the gunwale/bulwarks? Thanks, now I will leave you alone. It rests on top as the gunwales end before reaching the stem, and there in a step down on the bulwarks, so the bowsprit rests on top of the stepped down gunwale or bulwark top edge. Not sure how well I explained that, just got up and still very tired... lol Canute, Cabbie and mtaylor 3 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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